SF Start up OTC

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SF Start up OTC

Postby MyTeam » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:09 pm

12 team SF TEP

Picking at 3.10 and 4.03

Current team: Burrow and Lawrence

BPA:
QB: Fields, Lance, Watson
RB: Jones, CEH, Mixon, Etienne, Jacobs
WR: Hopkins, Ridley, Chase, McLaurin, MT
TE: Waller

I am thinking this is going to determine my build for the rest of the draft. If I can get CEH and either Mixon or Jones we could compete.

Or I grab WRs and punt this year which I usually do.

I think I am sold on CEH right now. I also have an offer of a 22 and 23 first for this pick but I'd rather make the pick with the value right now. I wish I could grab Ridley here too.

The teams between me have 2 RBs each so I am not sure what they plan on.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:23 pm

Based on your young QB core, I could see going young and future forward. If you do, Chase and Etienne look great here. If you could want to compete this year, I would go with your top RB and Ridley or Thomas.

Watson is also great value here long term.

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby jwb32 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:38 pm

Safe path is Chase and ETN (or CEH?). Sets you up nicely for future while also allowing you to compete in 2021 if things break your way. Though it’s tough to pass on Ridley there.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby Mtt33 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:18 pm

I don’t like the idea of Drafting burrow Lawrence then trying to compete. I’d play for next year here, ceh and chase makes sense. Would the guy offering for the pick give you a startup pick + future 1st?

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby killer_of_giants » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:03 am

i'm taking waller all day in a TEP. then probably helaire. plenty of good WRs in rounds 5-8.

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby abloom » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:05 am

I like the idea of going CEH and Watson. Watson should definitely be one of your picks here (likely the first one). You are getting a 2 round reduction in his startup price due to his current circumstances and most likely he's going to be playing either this year or next.

I like CEH to increase his production significantly this year. Ridley is the wr that jumps out to me.

If you do end up with mixon, you should shift to a win now build and should grab anofher QB or two due to your current QBs (burrow coming off acl injury, TLaw rookie).

Given the two teams have 2 RBs, I'd go Watson 3.10, and then CEH, Ridley, lance, fields for the other pick.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:55 am

CEH then either Lance, Chase, or Waller.
Fig Newtons - 12 team superflex .5 ppr, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, Flex, SF
QB - Dak, Brissett, Purdy
RB - Najee, Swift, J.Robinson, D.Henderson, McKinnon,
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Miller, G.Davis, MVS
TE - Kittle, Gesicki, Hockenson
Picks: 2023 - 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

Young Newts - 14 team .25 ppr Superflex, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, wr/rb, OP
QB - Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Chubb, L.Bell, Ingram, K.Johnson, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - M.Thomas, OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2022 - 3, 4, 5


DirkaDirka - 12 team PPR Superflex
QB: Mayfield, Allen, M.Ryan, Bridgewater, Mond
RB: Mixon, Swift, Sanders, Ekeler, DJ, Kerryon
WR: Tyreek, A.Cooper, D.Adams, A-Rob, C.Davis, P.Williams, V.Jefferson, Duverney
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Hollister
2022: All picks

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby MyTeam » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:59 am

So I went CEH, the next four picks were Ridley, Waller, Jones and Chase. So I took Watson. 2 picks away from being OTC again so I’ll post another. Thanks for the help
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby never_punts » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:06 am

MyTeam wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:59 am So I went CEH, the next four picks were Ridley, Waller, Jones and Chase. So I took Watson. 2 picks away from being OTC again so I’ll post another. Thanks for the help
Waller would have been hard to pass on but can't argue with CEH and Watson. Getting nice value and staying young. These threads have me itching to get in another start-up
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ 8-) )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby MyTeam » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:14 am

never_punts wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:06 am
MyTeam wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:59 am So I went CEH, the next four picks were Ridley, Waller, Jones and Chase. So I took Watson. 2 picks away from being OTC again so I’ll post another. Thanks for the help
Waller would have been hard to pass on but can't argue with CEH and Watson. Getting nice value and staying young. These threads have me itching to get in another start-up
I was helping too many people with drafts so I decided to get into another one
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby abloom » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:18 am

MyTeam wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:59 am So I went CEH, the next four picks were Ridley, Waller, Jones and Chase. So I took Watson. 2 picks away from being OTC again so I’ll post another. Thanks for the help
Can't argue with results :) i think you got the best 2 there. Sounds like those teams that you sandwhich are going to be QB needy on this time around. I would look at shopping your next pick to both of them if there is one solid QB left, you may be able to get significant value from them.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby MyTeam » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:26 am

abloom wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:18 am
MyTeam wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:59 am So I went CEH, the next four picks were Ridley, Waller, Jones and Chase. So I took Watson. 2 picks away from being OTC again so I’ll post another. Thanks for the help
Can't argue with results :) i think you got the best 2 there. Sounds like those teams that you sandwhich are going to be QB needy on this time around. I would look at shopping your next pick to both of them if there is one solid QB left, you may be able to get significant value from them.
The issue is there are still a lot of solid QBs so nobody is trying to trade up. I kinda want to take another one like Stafford as trade bait and hopefully it starts a QB run
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: SF Start up OTC

Postby abloom » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:03 am

MyTeam wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:26 am
abloom wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:18 am
MyTeam wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:59 am So I went CEH, the next four picks were Ridley, Waller, Jones and Chase. So I took Watson. 2 picks away from being OTC again so I’ll post another. Thanks for the help
Can't argue with results :) i think you got the best 2 there. Sounds like those teams that you sandwhich are going to be QB needy on this time around. I would look at shopping your next pick to both of them if there is one solid QB left, you may be able to get significant value from them.
The issue is there are still a lot of solid QBs so nobody is trying to trade up. I kinda want to take another one like Stafford as trade bait and hopefully it starts a QB run
If the rest of the league is devaluing QBs, I would not take one like stafford. I get that its tempting, but the value of a player is based on the perception of the league. I'm fine with gobbling up younger QBs that I don't mind sitting on my bench while they develop and the league learns how to value QBs, but I don't want older ones that by the time the league changes, I can't get good value from the older players.

Either way i'd pause and shop the pick to the guy in the 12 spot, just incase they want to move up 2-3 spots in this round, for a round or two jump later in the draft.
Tm 1
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler, T tracey
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert, T johnson
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Tm 2
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 TE), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Murray, Watson, Maye, McCarthy, R Wilson, howell
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus, Moss, Zeke,
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts, t Johnson, bell
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Tm 3
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2 TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Stafford, heinekie, flacco, browning
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Charb, Z White, R white, McLaughlin, wilson
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, watson
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Tm 4
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Tm 5
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Tm 6
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07


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