Thanks...Tho I think of Maclin as my WR3 (depending on AZ's QB situation)...I have Calvin and Fitz ahead of him.hostile wrote:I'm the opposite. I'm a firm believer in having an elite TE - it makes a HUGE difference and thankfully, many owners overlook it.MR ROURKE wrote:If Dez and Maclin come down to preferance, then they are actually equal in value and it comes down to Little/Ballard verses Salas/Gronk. Give me Little/Ballard. Little has huge upside and I like upside in young players. Gronk is a good TE and the safer side of the deal (both in Malin v Dez and Gronk v Ballard), but I perfer to have my value in WR then TE. I always think I can find a player to get by on at TE and TE's are cheaper then their WR counterparts. However, that might come down to preferance as well.joeday wrote:Basically I posed this questions because the Mastodons in my signature made a deal and traded Dez/Little/Ballard for Maclin/Salas/Gronk, so I am just trying to get some feedback
I own Dez/Little in one league and I'd do that deal in a heartbeat knowing I have steady, borderline elite income at my WR2 position and outright elite income at the TE position.
From my pov as an owner, there are a crapload of WRs in the league; based on sheer numbers, you can almost always turn over a few rocks in the dark corners of the waiver pool to unearth something serviceable, even a hidden gem. TE's are much more difficult to come by b/c *very* few in the league are elite, and the number of other TEs to draw from are so small.
You're locked and loaded at WR2 and TE1 for a few years now, maybe even WR3 if Salas turns into a target monster in that system. He's already showing as serviceable.
Nice deal, imo.
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Re: Dez vs. Maclin
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Re: Dez vs. Maclin
Id slightly prefer Dez because he is the better talent..but lets get a few things straight. Dez most definitely IS a MORON, any rookie who refuses to carry a veterans pads because his ego is so massive IS a MORON and a DIVA. Anyone who almost instantaneously racks up $800,000 worth of debt upon being drafted IS a MORON.
Character aside, Dez has a lot of talent but how the heck does a player whos done absolutely nothing consistently find himself ranked as a Top 7 dynasty receiver??
Moral of the story Dez = Very overvalued
Character aside, Dez has a lot of talent but how the heck does a player whos done absolutely nothing consistently find himself ranked as a Top 7 dynasty receiver??
Moral of the story Dez = Very overvalued
Re: Dez vs. Maclin
so would you have made the deal I made (dez/little/ballard for maclin/gronk/salas)?49ersFaithful80 wrote:Id slightly prefer Dez because he is the better talent..but lets get a few things straight. Dez most definitely IS a MORON, any rookie who refuses to carry a veterans pads because his ego is so massive IS a MORON and a DIVA. Anyone who almost instantaneously racks up $800,000 worth of debt upon being drafted IS a MORON.
Character aside, Dez has a lot of talent but how the heck does a player whos done absolutely nothing consistently find himself ranked as a Top 7 dynasty receiver??
Moral of the story Dez = Very overvalued
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Re: Dez vs. Maclin
No, he's just a misguided kid who was given the promise of a truckload of money and no supervision.49ersFaithful80 wrote:Id slightly prefer Dez because he is the better talent..but lets get a few things straight. Dez most definitely IS a MORON, any rookie who refuses to carry a veterans pads because his ego is so massive IS a MORON and a DIVA. Anyone who almost instantaneously racks up $800,000 worth of debt upon being drafted IS a MORON.
Besides, I would tell Roy Freakin' Williams to kiss my pucker too if he demanded I carry his pads. Veteran or not, and I've been the 'rookie' before.
Umm, have you watched this kid play??Character aside, Dez has a lot of talent but how the heck does a player whos done absolutely nothing consistently find himself ranked as a Top 7 dynasty receiver??
To some, not to others.Moral of the story Dez = Very overvalued
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Re: Dez vs. Maclin
Ah. Didnt notice that.joeday wrote: Thanks...Tho I think of Maclin as my WR3 (depending on AZ's QB situation)...I have Calvin and Fitz ahead of him.
In light of that, I dont like the deal as much, but I still like it. With Dez, you could have had three of the top 5-7 dynasty WRs, all under 30 yrs of age, but you'll probably get more consistent scoring out of Maclin which will solidify your weekly points, especially with Fitz being so unpredictable.
I would now look at dealing Hernandez. Having two NE TE's is kind of redundant. Try to roll him into one of the Davis boys, or something like that...
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Re: Dez vs. Maclin
I will say though that with Fitz having some issues this seasons at QB, once Calvin comes back I want to plug and play Maclin as needed and felt more confident. At the end of the day I think Dez has the potential to be a 5-7 WR but Maclin already is a 8-12 WR.hostile wrote:Ah. Didnt notice that.joeday wrote: Thanks...Tho I think of Maclin as my WR3 (depending on AZ's QB situation)...I have Calvin and Fitz ahead of him.
In light of that, I dont like the deal as much, but I still like it. With Dez, you could have had three of the top 5-7 dynasty WRs, all under 30 yrs of age, but you'll probably get more consistent scoring out of Maclin which will solidify your weekly points, especially with Fitz being so unpredictable.
I would now look at dealing Hernandez. Having two NE TE's is kind of redundant. Try to roll him into one of the Davis boys, or something like that...
In regards to hernandez I will probably try to move him for a pick at the end of the year. This league we only keep 10 and I would not want to keep 2 TEs regardless of who they are. I just wanted to have my choice of which NE TE to keep for 2012.
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