The Official 2021 Plant Your Flag thread
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Antonio Gibson passes Ezekiel Elliot in consensus dynasty value for good by mid-season.
Zach Wilson will be a ROY finalist at year's end.
Zach Wilson will be a ROY finalist at year's end.
Re: The Official 2021 Plant Your Flag thread
I feel like Gibson already has passed Zeke. He has for me anywaypvillebiker wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:02 am Antonio Gibson passes Ezekiel Elliot in consensus dynasty value for good by mid-season.
Zach Wilson will be a ROY finalist at year's end.
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Yes, Gibson is already significantly higher than Zeke in ADP anywhere I've seen.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:03 amI feel like Gibson already has passed Zeke. He has for me anywaypvillebiker wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:02 am Antonio Gibson passes Ezekiel Elliot in consensus dynasty value for good by mid-season.
Zach Wilson will be a ROY finalist at year's end.
This guy really going out on a limb with his flag plant.
I do like the Wilson call. I'm rooting for him.
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heh that's me the limb walker lol - I don't think it's anywhere near consensus yet. surprised at how many of my league mates still revere zeke & underestimate gibson. To wit, one guy offered me zeke for the 1.02, and when I declined agreed to give me gibson to move up from 1.07 to 1.02. doh! Wish I had zeke in some of those leagues so I could trade him away.CGW wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:30 amYes, Gibson is already significantly higher than Zeke in ADP anywhere I've seen.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:03 amI feel like Gibson already has passed Zeke. He has for me anywaypvillebiker wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:02 am Antonio Gibson passes Ezekiel Elliot in consensus dynasty value for good by mid-season.
Zach Wilson will be a ROY finalist at year's end.
This guy really going out on a limb with his flag plant.
I do like the Wilson call. I'm rooting for him.
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RB Position
Every top 6 2020 RB finishes top 16 this year--Swift and Akers mid RB1s, Taylor and CEH low RB1s (Taylor because Wentz's suckage drags down the offense) and Gibson and Dobbins high RB2s
Zack Moss pulls a 2020 David Montgomery and strings together enough TD heavy games as the Bills primary back to provide an RB2 finish despite not being anything special as a talent
Zeke still sucks and shows what anyone who has watched him has known for a while: that he is washed. Pollard starts to get more work over the course of the season
No rookie RB finishes above mid to late RB2
Myles Gaskin doesn't finish the season as the Dolphins starter
Joe Mixon has "low RB1 on PPG" finish that has 3-4 massive blowup games and a bunch of garbage games that aren't even RB2 caliber
Wayne Gallman is the most productive 49ers RB
David Montgomery is again more productive than Miles Sanders (though only a mid RB2)
Philip Lindsay is the featured back in Houston and actually a pretty usable FLEX
Javian Hawkins shows some Darren Sproles esque versatility in Atlanta in a change of pace role
James Conner is the lead back in AZ and a pretty decent RB2 when healthy
Dalvin Cook is the overall RB1
Every top 6 2020 RB finishes top 16 this year--Swift and Akers mid RB1s, Taylor and CEH low RB1s (Taylor because Wentz's suckage drags down the offense) and Gibson and Dobbins high RB2s
Zack Moss pulls a 2020 David Montgomery and strings together enough TD heavy games as the Bills primary back to provide an RB2 finish despite not being anything special as a talent
Zeke still sucks and shows what anyone who has watched him has known for a while: that he is washed. Pollard starts to get more work over the course of the season
No rookie RB finishes above mid to late RB2
Myles Gaskin doesn't finish the season as the Dolphins starter
Joe Mixon has "low RB1 on PPG" finish that has 3-4 massive blowup games and a bunch of garbage games that aren't even RB2 caliber
Wayne Gallman is the most productive 49ers RB
David Montgomery is again more productive than Miles Sanders (though only a mid RB2)
Philip Lindsay is the featured back in Houston and actually a pretty usable FLEX
Javian Hawkins shows some Darren Sproles esque versatility in Atlanta in a change of pace role
James Conner is the lead back in AZ and a pretty decent RB2 when healthy
Dalvin Cook is the overall RB1
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StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:19 pm RB Position
Every top 6 2020 RB finishes top 16 this year--Swift and Akers mid RB1s, Taylor and CEH low RB1s (Taylor because Wentz's suckage drags down the offense) and Gibson and Dobbins high RB2s
Zack Moss pulls a 2020 David Montgomery and strings together enough TD heavy games as the Bills primary back to provide an RB2 finish despite not being anything special as a talent
Zeke still sucks and shows what anyone who has watched him has known for a while: that he is washed. Pollard starts to get more work over the course of the season
No rookie RB finishes above mid to late RB2
Myles Gaskin doesn't finish the season as the Dolphins starter
Joe Mixon has "low RB1 on PPG" finish that has 3-4 massive blowup games and a bunch of garbage games that aren't even RB2 caliber
Wayne Gallman is the most productive 49ers RB
David Montgomery is again more productive than Miles Sanders (though only a mid RB2)
Philip Lindsay is the featured back in Houston and actually a pretty usable FLEX
Javian Hawkins shows some Darren Sproles esque versatility in Atlanta in a change of pace role
James Conner is the lead back in AZ and a pretty decent RB2 when healthy
Dalvin Cook is the overall RB1
What am I missing here? Everyone knows what a dumpster fire the Cowboys were after Prescott went down. Still, during the weeks he played Elliott was the #2 RB in fantasy. Then, he finished #9 overall, well ahead of Gibson. And he outscored Gibson 12 out of 17 weeks. This included the last 4 weeks so you can't even say that Gibson finished stronger. And yes I also go by the eyeball test and not just stats. Also, the O-line is returning 3 starters. Why do you think he's washed?
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-Robert Woods is still undervalued and will be a top 15 PPR WR yet again (for the 4th time in a row)
-Jalen Hurts lands outside of the top 15 QB range and looses his job to the Nr. 2 overall draft pick in 2022
-Julio Jones has 11 total TDs for the first time in his carrer
-JuJu finishes as the best WR in Pittsburgh
-Jalen Hurts lands outside of the top 15 QB range and looses his job to the Nr. 2 overall draft pick in 2022
-Julio Jones has 11 total TDs for the first time in his carrer
-JuJu finishes as the best WR in Pittsburgh
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Re: The Official 2021 Plant Your Flag thread
This is you planting a flag, but I do not see eye to eye for a lot of theseStripesOfKC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:19 pm RB Position
Every top 6 2020 RB finishes top 16 this year--Swift and Akers mid RB1s, Taylor and CEH low RB1s (Taylor because Wentz's suckage drags down the offense) and Gibson and Dobbins high RB2s
Zack Moss pulls a 2020 David Montgomery and strings together enough TD heavy games as the Bills primary back to provide an RB2 finish despite not being anything special as a talent
Zeke still sucks and shows what anyone who has watched him has known for a while: that he is washed. Pollard starts to get more work over the course of the season
No rookie RB finishes above mid to late RB2
Myles Gaskin doesn't finish the season as the Dolphins starter
Joe Mixon has "low RB1 on PPG" finish that has 3-4 massive blowup games and a bunch of garbage games that aren't even RB2 caliber
Wayne Gallman is the most productive 49ers RB
David Montgomery is again more productive than Miles Sanders (though only a mid RB2)
Philip Lindsay is the featured back in Houston and actually a pretty usable FLEX
Javian Hawkins shows some Darren Sproles esque versatility in Atlanta in a change of pace role
James Conner is the lead back in AZ and a pretty decent RB2 when healthy
Dalvin Cook is the overall RB1
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https://www.playerprofiler.com/article/ ... uy-low-rb/Pew Dogs wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:47 pmStripesOfKC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:19 pm RB Position
Every top 6 2020 RB finishes top 16 this year--Swift and Akers mid RB1s, Taylor and CEH low RB1s (Taylor because Wentz's suckage drags down the offense) and Gibson and Dobbins high RB2s
Zack Moss pulls a 2020 David Montgomery and strings together enough TD heavy games as the Bills primary back to provide an RB2 finish despite not being anything special as a talent
Zeke still sucks and shows what anyone who has watched him has known for a while: that he is washed. Pollard starts to get more work over the course of the season
No rookie RB finishes above mid to late RB2
Myles Gaskin doesn't finish the season as the Dolphins starter
Joe Mixon has "low RB1 on PPG" finish that has 3-4 massive blowup games and a bunch of garbage games that aren't even RB2 caliber
Wayne Gallman is the most productive 49ers RB
David Montgomery is again more productive than Miles Sanders (though only a mid RB2)
Philip Lindsay is the featured back in Houston and actually a pretty usable FLEX
Javian Hawkins shows some Darren Sproles esque versatility in Atlanta in a change of pace role
James Conner is the lead back in AZ and a pretty decent RB2 when healthy
Dalvin Cook is the overall RB1
What am I missing here? Everyone knows what a dumpster fire the Cowboys were after Prescott went down. Still, during the weeks he played Elliott was the #2 RB in fantasy. Then, he finished #9 overall, well ahead of Gibson. And he outscored Gibson 12 out of 17 weeks. This included the last 4 weeks so you can't even say that Gibson finished stronger. And yes I also go by the eyeball test and not just stats. Also, the O-line is returning 3 starters. Why do you think he's washed?
This essentially
"Bounce backs" for 26 year old RBs on their second contracts after historic usage is something I laugh at people fooling themselves into believing in every year
He is not good in real life
A bunch of volume stats propping him up fantasy wise--like David Johnson being "a mid RB1" in 2018 (the year before he was totally finished) or Le'Veon Bell a "high RB2" his first year with the Jets--isn't fooling me
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Sam Darnold and Mo-Alie Cox will finish in the top 10 at their positions.
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Jaguars will finish 11-6 and make the playoffs
If Sam Darnold finishes outside of the top 13 QB in 2021 then StripesOfKC & Sriracha get to decide what my new handle and icon will be.
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QB: S. Darnold (CAR)
RB: J. Jacobs (LV), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: Cooper (DAL), Ridley (ATL), M. Williams (LAC)
TE: R. Seals-Jones (WAS), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT), D. Harris (NE)
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TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), D. Asiasi (NE)
IR: Tre' Q. Smith (NO), Tyrod Taylor (HOU), Chark Jr (JAX), R. Penny (SEA)
Jaguars will finish 11-6 and make the playoffs
If Sam Darnold finishes outside of the top 13 QB in 2021 then StripesOfKC & Sriracha get to decide what my new handle and icon will be.
12 TEAM SUPERFLEX PPR
START: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 SUPERFLEX
ROSTER STARTERS
QB: S. Darnold (CAR)
RB: J. Jacobs (LV), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: Cooper (DAL), Ridley (ATL), M. Williams (LAC)
TE: R. Seals-Jones (WAS), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT), D. Harris (NE)
SUPERFLEX: M. Jones (NE)
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RB: Cord. Patterson (ATL), A. Collins (SEA), D. Dallas (SEA), K. Vaughn (TB), JJ Taylor (NE), S. Perine (CIN)
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TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), D. Asiasi (NE)
IR: Tre' Q. Smith (NO), Tyrod Taylor (HOU), Chark Jr (JAX), R. Penny (SEA)
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As a Colts fan, let me be the first to say the Cox prediction isn't bold, it's a tad cra cra. He's already falling behind the rookie and Doyle will start. Hope I am wrong thoughThe MAC Machine wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:44 am Sam Darnold and Mo-Alie Cox will finish in the top 10 at their positions.
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Well, O'Doyle rules.murphysxm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:57 amAs a Colts fan, let me be the first to say the Cox prediction isn't bold, it's a tad cra cra. He's already falling behind the rookie and Doyle will start. Hope I am wrong thoughThe MAC Machine wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:44 am Sam Darnold and Mo-Alie Cox will finish in the top 10 at their positions.
I'm not sure why Mo always has to put the Allie in between his name. I feel like he's missing his true calling on a duet with P. Diddy and Mase. Mo Money Mo...ahh nevermind.
I'll see myself out now.
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You still get an A for Eifert.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:59 amWell, O'Doyle rules.murphysxm wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:57 amAs a Colts fan, let me be the first to say the Cox prediction isn't bold, it's a tad cra cra. He's already falling behind the rookie and Doyle will start. Hope I am wrong thoughThe MAC Machine wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:44 am Sam Darnold and Mo-Alie Cox will finish in the top 10 at their positions.
I'm not sure why Mo always has to put the Allie in between his name. I feel like he's missing his true calling on a duet with P. Diddy and Mase. Mo Money Mo...ahh nevermind.
I'll see myself out now.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: The Official 2021 Plant Your Flag thread
Lots of Wentz hate so I'll plant my flag in opposition.
- Wentz finishes top 8 and looks more like his MVP caliber self.
- Hurts however ends up looking every bit of the negative parts of his scouting reports, and loses his job to whoever the Eagles draft.
- CEH finishes top 10.
- Newton starts the season for the Patriots but is out of a job by the mid point of the season.
- Lock beats out Bridgewater and puts up a QB2 type of season.
- Wentz finishes top 8 and looks more like his MVP caliber self.
- Hurts however ends up looking every bit of the negative parts of his scouting reports, and loses his job to whoever the Eagles draft.
- CEH finishes top 10.
- Newton starts the season for the Patriots but is out of a job by the mid point of the season.
- Lock beats out Bridgewater and puts up a QB2 type of season.
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WR- Godwin, DJM, Cooks, Aiyuk Jeudy, Juju, Reynolds, Pickens,
TE- Andrews, Ertz, Jordan
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DB - Byard, Bates, Horn
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RB- Swift, Josh Jacobs, CEH, Breece, Penny, Pacheco, Josh Kelley, Drake, Keontay Ingram, Hubbard
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RB - Chubb, Najee Harris, Ronald Jones, Michel
WR - Hopkins, OBJ, Claypool, Pittman, Sutton, Chase, Rondale Moore
TE - Kittle, Higbee
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DB - Byard, Bates, Horn
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