Mike Evans - The Dislike Is Real for this Perennial WR1 - Discussion Thread
Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
It's a good question. I think most of his owners know his value but others just don't value him for some reason. He's usually a redraft staple of my teams.
If a prospect came out at 6'5, with a 96th percentile speed score, great college production, top 10 NFL draft capital and has a rookie year of 68/1050/12... He'd be the 1.01. I mean DK has been vaulted to that spot...
If a prospect came out at 6'5, with a 96th percentile speed score, great college production, top 10 NFL draft capital and has a rookie year of 68/1050/12... He'd be the 1.01. I mean DK has been vaulted to that spot...
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
Because he's not a shiny new toy anymore.
When he was, he was a 1st round startup pick for a while. But, as usual with WRs who start approaching their late 20's, people want to bail.
Anyone negging Evans for his "lack of production" doesn't have a clue. He's on pace to having a HOF career with 7 straight 1000 yard seasons and has been a WR1 4 out of the last 5 years.
When he was, he was a 1st round startup pick for a while. But, as usual with WRs who start approaching their late 20's, people want to bail.
Anyone negging Evans for his "lack of production" doesn't have a clue. He's on pace to having a HOF career with 7 straight 1000 yard seasons and has been a WR1 4 out of the last 5 years.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
Yeah the hate was too much, before the season I at least understood it. Godwin was ascending, Tom Brady was coming and he wasn't known for throwing to contested catch specialists like Evans, Evans also had a fair share of big games and then almost duck eggs so the week to week volatility was a worry.
All in all though I would have loved to have had him over his career but the owner on my league is in love, as he should be.
All in all though I would have loved to have had him over his career but the owner on my league is in love, as he should be.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
It's hard not to think people were going crazy with Evans with the now infamous Fulgham+2nd trade, but I'd like to think most of the community was reasonable on him. He was viewed as a stud until the last year or two with Godwin's emergence. That paired with his age has slowly pushed him down people's rankings I bet.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
Paid 3 2nds and Lev Bell for him trying to win a ship.
Didn't win but still feel like I stole Evans. Guy's a stud.
Didn't win but still feel like I stole Evans. Guy's a stud.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
Paid my first and second for Evans in week 8 or so. Thought that was a good price too.Shankopotamus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:34 pm Paid 3 2nds and Lev Bell for him trying to win a ship.
Didn't win but still feel like I stole Evans. Guy's a stud.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
I have always had a love/hate relationship with him. Never owned him in Dynasty but own him every year in money redraft leagues as well.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:41 pm It's a good question. I think most of his owners know his value but others just don't value him for some reason. He's usually a redraft staple of my teams.
If a prospect came out at 6'5, with a 96th percentile speed score, great college production, top 10 NFL draft capital and has a rookie year of 68/1050/12... He'd be the 1.01. I mean DK has been vaulted to that spot...
Why not Dynasty; No real legit reason but he is a solid player that I think will get hurt every year. Yea, I know it doesn't make sense.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
He was an early first round startup pick in 2015 and 2016, he was the Dynasty 1.02 going into 2017, then he sort of flopped in 2017. He hovered in the late first after that, and now he’s finally tumbled with a bunch of new breakouts.
Now he’s just getting older and he’s undervalued the same way many elite WRs entering the second half of their career are.
Now he’s just getting older and he’s undervalued the same way many elite WRs entering the second half of their career are.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
I faded him in a high stakes redraft a couple years ago. Thought he wasn't much of a threat and would be too boom/bust to be worth a high pick. He burned me for 30+ and I watched as he single handedly knocked out a couple good teams.
I decided I'd never underestimate him again, drafted him in dynasty, and though hes frustrating at times hes been legit league winner for me.
Fantasypros has him at WR21 on their most recent trade value chart. Keenan Allen is 11.
I decided I'd never underestimate him again, drafted him in dynasty, and though hes frustrating at times hes been legit league winner for me.
Fantasypros has him at WR21 on their most recent trade value chart. Keenan Allen is 11.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
I just think he’s properly valued. A lot of the top players are severely overvalued sometimes. Doesn’t mean Evans is undervalued. Evans is attainable, which in theory should be the case for every player. Will be 28 by next season, not known for his high catch totals (which is relevant in ppr), lots of great rookies and young proven wrs, plus unfortunately the past 7 years don’t count for 2021. Should add that the dynasty community as a whole is out on the bigger receivers.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
Has been my favorite player in the league for years.
If he's hurt, he'll play unless he can't walk. This year he "flopped" for 1,000/13. Should be considered more with Hopkins/Michael Thomas than some of the WRs he's been lumped in with. He's done it with Mike Glennon, Josh McCown, Jameis Winston, and shot-armed Brady. Doesn't matter if he has an efficient year or a compiler year, he always finds a way to be a stud WR. I don't think I can name a receiver that has just gotten it done like he has..... that's why he is in the record books for a 7 year long feat. Won many championships through the years thanks to having him as my WR1.
If he's hurt, he'll play unless he can't walk. This year he "flopped" for 1,000/13. Should be considered more with Hopkins/Michael Thomas than some of the WRs he's been lumped in with. He's done it with Mike Glennon, Josh McCown, Jameis Winston, and shot-armed Brady. Doesn't matter if he has an efficient year or a compiler year, he always finds a way to be a stud WR. I don't think I can name a receiver that has just gotten it done like he has..... that's why he is in the record books for a 7 year long feat. Won many championships through the years thanks to having him as my WR1.
Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
Hes inconsistent, hes old, hes always hurt, hes just a contested catch guy, hes TD dependent. I think theres a couple more I see but that about sums it up.
He's been an elite talent and pro since he entered the league. Hes put up numbers regardless of the situation through some awful quarterbacks - a lock for 1k yards and 8TDs. I love his physical play and incredible catch radius.
I've always owned him just about everywhere because he is insanely cheap and pretty much always has been outside his sophomore preseason. I get fading guys for age, it's a natural part of the progression for fantasy assets. I'd be looking to buy pretty much anywhere he was for sale.
He's been an elite talent and pro since he entered the league. Hes put up numbers regardless of the situation through some awful quarterbacks - a lock for 1k yards and 8TDs. I love his physical play and incredible catch radius.
I've always owned him just about everywhere because he is insanely cheap and pretty much always has been outside his sophomore preseason. I get fading guys for age, it's a natural part of the progression for fantasy assets. I'd be looking to buy pretty much anywhere he was for sale.
Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
I just paid 2 (mid of the) 2nd and Henry RuggsShankopotamus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:34 pm Paid 3 2nds and Lev Bell for him trying to win a ship.
Didn't win but still feel like I stole Evans. Guy's a stud.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
Saying that his past 7 years don't count for anything is like saying "Well, McCaffery has been great but he might not be in 2021". Track record counts.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:47 pm I just think he’s properly valued. A lot of the top players are severely overvalued sometimes. Doesn’t mean Evans is undervalued. Evans is attainable, which in theory should be the case for every player. Will be 28 by next season, not known for his high catch totals (which is relevant in ppr), lots of great rookies and young proven wrs, plus unfortunately the past 7 years don’t count for 2021. Should add that the dynasty community as a whole is out on the bigger receivers.
The dynasty community loves Metcalf, Sutton, Higgins, Claypool...
Not trying to start an argument. I literally just dont u understand what the reason is.
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Re: Why is Mike Evans so disliked in the fantasy community?
You don't know/understand the reason or you don't agree with it.MFundercover wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:19 amSaying that his past 7 years don't count for anything is like saying "Well, McCaffery has been great but he might not be in 2021". Track record counts.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:47 pm I just think he’s properly valued. A lot of the top players are severely overvalued sometimes. Doesn’t mean Evans is undervalued. Evans is attainable, which in theory should be the case for every player. Will be 28 by next season, not known for his high catch totals (which is relevant in ppr), lots of great rookies and young proven wrs, plus unfortunately the past 7 years don’t count for 2021. Should add that the dynasty community as a whole is out on the bigger receivers.
The dynasty community loves Metcalf, Sutton, Higgins, Claypool...
Not trying to start an argument. I literally just dont u understand what the reason is.
Reading back over your initial post, the lack of production comment probably came from the consistency aspect, specifically in the last 2 years. This year, 12 of his games he had 56 or less receiving yards. Only 4 games of 80+ receiving yards. 80+ receiving yards in only 6 games in 2019. The boom weeks help his overall end of the year stat-line but on a weekly basis people are not seeing Evans putting up huge reception and/or yardage numbers. More than 6 catches only 3 times this year and only 4 times in 2019. Not saying his numbers are bad but they're not really representative of an elite WR either, at least the last 2 years. When compared to other high end WR's his age, like Adams and Hopkins for example, they're more consistent than he is. Keenan's sporadic yardage totals are more similar to Evans but Keenan gets way more receptions than Evans does.
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