Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

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1.01
14
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Rodgers + Hunt + 1.10
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Total votes: 20

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Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby blemly » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:37 pm

Just made a massive move to get the 1.01 (Lawrence) in a 12-team SF league (Team 3) and am curious to hear people’s thoughts.

Gave: Hunt, 1.10, Rodgers
Got: 1.01

It’s an overpay. Curious to see if anyone would still make the move.
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby yinzername » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:50 pm

Doesn’t seem like an overpay to me, not in SF. I assume it’s for a rebuild, not a win now
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 4.2, 4.7
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

1st YEAR START-UP
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - R Freeman - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Diggs - Aiyuk - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore - A Pierce - C Tillman
TE: Kittle - Kincaid

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby Mtt33 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:59 pm

Starting positions?

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby blemly » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:00 pm

realmacaroni wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:50 pm Doesn’t seem like an overpay to me, not in SF. I assume it’s for a rebuild, not a win now
Team could be a competitor, it was close last year. Notable players include:

QB - Cam, Watson
RB - AK, Jacobs, Dobbins
WR - Tyreek, AJB, Woods, McLaurin
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby blemly » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:02 pm

Mtt33 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:59 pm Starting positions?
Not super deep, but 3WR and 9 total.

QB/SF/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/FLX
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby krtbuckeye » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:03 pm

If this is for Team 3 in your sig, I’d make that deal for Lawrence.
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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby yinzername » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:08 pm

blemly wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:00 pm
realmacaroni wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:50 pm Doesn’t seem like an overpay to me, not in SF. I assume it’s for a rebuild, not a win now
Team could be a competitor, it was close last year. Notable players include:

QB - Cam, Watson
RB - AK, Jacobs, Dobbins
WR - Tyreek, AJB, Woods, McLaurin
Might take a couple years to back to that level (maybe not if he’s a super stud out the gate) but i still like it. Good trade.

You got the 1.10, what other picks do u hold?
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 4.2, 4.7
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

1st YEAR START-UP
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - R Freeman - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Diggs - Aiyuk - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore - A Pierce - C Tillman
TE: Kittle - Kincaid

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:08 pm

krtbuckeye wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:03 pm If this is for Team 3 in your sig, I’d make that deal for Lawrence.
x2 - Rodgers is still a great piece on the field, but his value is not likely to be what it should be based on age.

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby blemly » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:21 pm

realmacaroni wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:08 pm
blemly wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:00 pm
realmacaroni wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:50 pm Doesn’t seem like an overpay to me, not in SF. I assume it’s for a rebuild, not a win now
Team could be a competitor, it was close last year. Notable players include:

QB - Cam, Watson
RB - AK, Jacobs, Dobbins
WR - Tyreek, AJB, Woods, McLaurin
Might take a couple years to back to that level (maybe not if he’s a super stud out the gate) but i still like it. Good trade.

You got the 1.10, what other picks do u hold?
In this league I hold a mid 2nd and 4.10 and 5.10.
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby zaner75 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:33 pm

I don't think it's an overpay. Good move to get the deal now. The price will only be going up until Lawrence is drafted, and it may even continue to go up.

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby blemly » Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:46 pm

This is a good example of how trade calculators are not accurate measures of trades, and one reason why I value other actual fantasy players’ opinions on this forum. One site had this as an absolute massacre for me (180 v 375) and another was not favorable either (46 v 63). Trade calculators are fine and I don’t dislike them, but I didn’t look at them before making this trade and often don’t. Certainly not the end all be all.
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:08 pm

blemly wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:46 pm This is a good example of how trade calculators are not accurate measures of trades, and one reason why I value other actual fantasy players’ opinions on this forum. One site had this as an absolute massacre for me (180 v 375) and another was not favorable either (46 v 63). Trade calculators are fine and I don’t dislike them, but I didn’t look at them before making this trade and often don’t. Certainly not the end all be all.
I dont use trade calculators at all and never have for just this type of reason. Real head scratchers sometimes.

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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby krtbuckeye » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:35 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:08 pm
blemly wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:46 pm This is a good example of how trade calculators are not accurate measures of trades, and one reason why I value other actual fantasy players’ opinions on this forum. One site had this as an absolute massacre for me (180 v 375) and another was not favorable either (46 v 63). Trade calculators are fine and I don’t dislike them, but I didn’t look at them before making this trade and often don’t. Certainly not the end all be all.
I dont use trade calculators at all and never have for just this type of reason. Real head scratchers sometimes.
Totally agree on this. A trade calculator can really only evaluate a deal in a vacuum. Yes, some can be tweaked by league size and format, but none are granular enough to take into account starting requirements or the role that a certain player does/will fill in your build.
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Re: Massive Deal for Lawrence - Thoughts?

Postby sloth8u » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:29 am

blemly wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:46 pm This is a good example of how trade calculators are not accurate measures of trades, and one reason why I value other actual fantasy players’ opinions on this forum. One site had this as an absolute massacre for me (180 v 375) and another was not favorable either (46 v 63). Trade calculators are fine and I don’t dislike them, but I didn’t look at them before making this trade and often don’t. Certainly not the end all be all.
This was weak for 1.1 (lawrence) imo. It was very weak in a format that is not qb and/or te prem.


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