Hopkins on a dead end team

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Trade Hopkins or hold

J Robinson + top 6 2021 pick
9
53%
Hold hopkins
8
47%
 
Total votes: 17

MadeinTC
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 74
Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby MadeinTC » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:32 pm

My team is a bottom half team without a 2021 1st round pick. Team is very weak at RB, will need to trade a couple more WRs. I am considering this a rebuild.

Would you give up Hopkins for:
James Robinson and a lottery (top 6) pick
Or keep Hopkins.

I know I won’t get 2 1st rounders, I think the above is th best I can do.

What do you all think?

tresskid84
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1373
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:02 am
Contact:

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby tresskid84 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:38 pm

Superflex??? Even if it isnt, I think I would do this. I actually have it as pretty fair value.
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Darnold, Rudolph, Heinicke
RB: Z Moss, Adams, Scarbrough, R Smith, Bellamy, Dex Williams, Pierce
WR: Washington, Renfrow, Hightower, Berrios, D Harris, Cleveland, R Ridley, E St Brown, Dede, Pettis, KJ Hill, C Wilson
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Reed, Hu Bryant, Moreau, Conklin, Dwelley, Butler, Pruitt
2021 Picks: 1.05, 1.08, 1.10, 1.11
2022 Picks: four 1sts (plus an extra 2023 1), three 2nds, two 3rds

16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Mahomes, Mayfield, Fitz, Heinicke
RB: Barkley, Chubb, CEH, Sanders, Etienne, D Harris, Pollard, B Scott, Ty Johnson, Adams, Scarbrough, Love, K Brooks(D)
WR: McLaurin, Shenault, T Higgins, T Wallace, Isabella, Johnson (TB), Johnson (LAC), A Tate
TE: Hurst, Higbee, Freiermuth, Sternberger, Moreau, Hu Bryant, Warring, Oliver, Kolar(D)
2021 Picks: 1.12, 3.04

User avatar
Gator Sens
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 30998
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:17 am
Contact:

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:10 pm

Value is fair especially if you are multiple years out from competing. By then, Hopkins value will be like Julio Jones's is now.

makemeasandwich
Captain
Captain
Posts: 857
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:59 am

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby makemeasandwich » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:50 pm

I don’t see why you can’t get (2) 1st round picks for Nuk after the season he just had? I’d want a different piece instead of J-Rob in a tear down.

User avatar
Disaman74
Captain
Captain
Posts: 800
Joined: Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:03 pm

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby Disaman74 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:58 pm

If you’re in a rebuild I want a young WR instead of Robinson. No guarantee the new coaching staff sticks with him
12 team DYNASTY w/ 1/2 PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2FLEX, 1TE, 1DEF, 9BCH, 2IR
2020 - 2nd place
QB: Rothesburger, Mayfield, Tua
RB: Swift, Dobbins, Hunt, D.Harris
WR: Hopkins, Dionte Johnson, A.Robinson , Kirk, Smith-schuster, C.Davis, Pittman
TE: Andrews, Ertz, Herndon
FLEX: Akers (RB), R.Jones (RB)
DEF: Steelers

User avatar
snaps06
Captain
Captain
Posts: 832
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:08 pm

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby snaps06 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:04 pm

Hopkins is worth more than that, and I'm a huge James Robinson fan. I'm a big believer in not panic selling just because an offer is there.

Float him around to a few owners to gauge interest, but don't publicly put him OTB in your league chat because that will always result in low-ball offers.

We're talking about an elite WR locked in with a stud QB for another 4 years. A competitive team should be willing to pay up a little bit for that type of player.

Online
User avatar
krtbuckeye
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3265
Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:41 am

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby krtbuckeye » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:33 pm

I would hold out for a better offer here.
The Highwaymen
10 Team, PPR, Roster: 28+2 IR
Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR), FLEX (RB/WR/TE), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, IDP FLEX

**IDP scoring is tackle heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no points for QBH or TFL, low-medium impact overall. Effectively caps DL scoring. Adding additional IDP FLEX in 2022.**

2017: took over last place orphan, made playoffs
2018: 2nd Place🥈
2019: 2nd Place🥈
2020: Champions 🏆

QB: Josh Allen, Russell Wilson
RB: Jonathan Taylor, D’Andre Swift, J.K. Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Tony Pollard, Alexander Mattison, Gus Edwards, Jamaal Williams, Mike Davis, Tarik Cohen
WR: Davante Adams, Stefon Diggs, DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Michael Gallup, A.J. Green, Quintez Cephus
TE: Travis Kelce, Darren Waller, Irv Smith Jr.
K: (will add/stream later)
DL: Danielle Hunter, (will add after additional roster spot is added to accommodate)
LB: Bobby Wagner, Jaylon Smith, Isaiah Simmons
DB: Budda Baker, Derwin James

Picks Held:
2021: None
2022: None
2023: 1st

MyTeam
Player of the Year
Player of the Year
Posts: 2429
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:40 am

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby MyTeam » Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:09 am

I don't think that is bad value. I would guess you could get more though.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: Cousins, Mayfield
RB: Elliott, Barkley, JT, Robinson, Johnson, Armstead, Brown, Hill
WR: Hill, DK, AJB, Juju, Sutton, Gallup, Shenault, Jeffrey, Patterson, Sims
TE: Henry, Goedert, Okwuegbunam, Trautman, Knox
1.06, 1.11, 2.01, 2.11

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TE Premium (1.5 PPR), 30 Keepers
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 SF (QB/RB/WR/TE)

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
RB: CEH, Swift, Gibson, A. Mattison, B. Scott, McFarland, Love, Armstead
WR: DK, McLaurin, Kupp, Jeudy, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Harmon, Robinson, Bourne
TE: Andrews, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
2021 Picks - 1.05, 1.09
Extra first in 2022 & 2023

Team 3: 12 Team, SF TE Premium (1.5 PPR), 30 Keepers
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 SF (QB/RB/WR/TE)
Watson, Burrow
Pollard, Mattison, Edwards
Chark, Boyd, C. Davis, Hardman, Cephus, Harry
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O., Njoku
1.03, 1.04, 1.08, 1.11

BradysBunch
MVP
MVP
Posts: 2892
Joined: Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:40 am

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby BradysBunch » Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:04 am

I honestly don't think I could get that offer in my league. I personally would do it.
10 team / 28 man rosters
2015/2017/2019 Champ
SF/PPR
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
Mahomes/Murray/Winston/Haskins/Trubisky
CMAC/CEH/Mixon/Harris
Hopkins/Thomas/DJM/Woods/Lamb/Chark/B. Edwards/P.Williams/Campbell/AB
Kelce/Hurst

1.1/1.4/1.5/1.9/2.1

ravn88
Captain
Captain
Posts: 918
Joined: Fri May 05, 2017 2:25 pm
Location: Denmark

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby ravn88 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:51 am

I would jump on that I a rebuild.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: Wentz Watson J. Allen & Lock
RB: Barkley Zeke K. Hunt McCoy Penny D. Williams & Ito
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow & Zay
TE: Engram OJ Howard Waller & Everett
DEF: Pats Jags & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

CGW
MVP
MVP
Posts: 2768
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:31 pm

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby CGW » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:35 am

No chance I sell Nuk for a RB as a rebuilding team. In a multi year rebuild even an elite talent RB will likely fade before you are ready to compete. Not only that but an RB helps you win, which you don't want in a rebuild.

Sell Nuk for a young WR+ or even straight up in a rebuild. If its SF, QB is another option.

The only time you trade for RB in rebuild is if their value is incredibly low or you are going to immediately flip them. JR value is likely at the highest it ever will be. Can you turn around and flip him immediately for a WR or high 1st?

Edgy68
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3201
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:04 am
Location: Zanesville, OH

Re: Hopkins on a dead end team

Postby Edgy68 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:56 pm

The only time you trade for RB in rebuild is if their value is incredibly low or you are going to immediately flip them. JR value is likely at the highest it ever will be. Can you turn around and flip him immediately for a WR or high 1st?
[/quote]

I agree with every bit of this. I think the value is close with the 1.06, but I would need assurances that I could move Robinson for as much. If the owners of the 1.04 or 1.05 need an RB, there might be some interest as Harris and Etienne may be gone by then. If you could flip JR for that level or a young WR like Higgins, it might be worth pursuing.
Wasteland
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB D. Brees, L. Jackson, J. Burrow
RB D. Henry, M. Sanders, CEH, J. Dobbins, J. Taylor, A. Matt., J. Hill, K. Vaughn, S. Phillips
WR M. Thomas, C. Sutton, C. Ridley, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, JJAW, J. Hurd, J. Reynolds, T. Patrick, I. Ford, Q. Watkins, J. Meyers, C. Johnson
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, L. Thomas, A. O
D/ST MIN, TEN, DEN
2021 1.07, 1.10, 1.11, 3.11, 4.11, 5.11

Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB M. Stafford, C. Wentz, D. Brees, J. Burrow
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, D. Swift, G. Bernard, B. Scott, S. Phillips
WR D. Hopkins, Jefferson, C. Godwin, Juju, J. Gordon, G. Davis, P. Williams, M. Boykin, AGG
TE T. Kelce, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, A. O
DB J. Poyer, J. Johnson, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, Okwara, H. Landry, D. Lawrence
LB C. Mosley, Z. Cunningham, R. Evans, K. Alexander, P. Queen, T. Adams
2021 3.05, 4.08


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], ff330, ImNotInYourLeague, krtbuckeye and 7 guests