This is a good idea. Thanks abloom.abloom wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:01 pmOffer him the 1.02 + 1.06 for 1.01 + 1.12blemly wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:48 am Updated information:
So far, I have offered 1.06 + Lock + Slayton for 1.01 and 1.02 + 2.08 + Slayton for 1.01. Both turned down (unsurprisingly) as they were more feelers than anything else.
He has a few other high picks of note. So far, he owns the 1.01, 1.04, 1.12, 2.01, and 2.02.
Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
Any updates? I get emotionally invested in a lot of these trades and I never see how they end.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
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Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
I think it will eventually take something like the 1.02, 1.06, 2.03 for 1.01 and maybe ask for a late or future 2nd back
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Goff Geno Pickett
RB Bijan CMC Chubb JWill Kendre
WR Pittman Diontae Mooney Juju Hyatt Nico
TE Waller Schultz
Team 2
12 team SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Hurts Darnold Mac Love
RB Saquon Chubb Mixon Dillon
WR Kupp Amari Ridley Juju Cooks Diontae
TE Kittle Hock
Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Herbert Love Ridder Lance
RB CBrown Chandler
WR Olave CWatson EMoore Nico
TE Pitts
Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert
RB JT CMC Breece Mixon Henry
WR AJB Metcalf Kupp Diontae Juju EMoore
TE Kittle Pat
Team 5
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Allen Pickett Carr Baker
RB CMC Saquon Swift
WR AJB Deebo Ridley Sutton
TE Kittle Fant
Team 6
Bestball 12 Team
PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
QB RB WR TE 7Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon ETN
WR Chase DK DJM Juju
TE Pitts Kittle
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Goff Geno Pickett
RB Bijan CMC Chubb JWill Kendre
WR Pittman Diontae Mooney Juju Hyatt Nico
TE Waller Schultz
Team 2
12 team SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Hurts Darnold Mac Love
RB Saquon Chubb Mixon Dillon
WR Kupp Amari Ridley Juju Cooks Diontae
TE Kittle Hock
Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Herbert Love Ridder Lance
RB CBrown Chandler
WR Olave CWatson EMoore Nico
TE Pitts
Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert
RB JT CMC Breece Mixon Henry
WR AJB Metcalf Kupp Diontae Juju EMoore
TE Kittle Pat
Team 5
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Allen Pickett Carr Baker
RB CMC Saquon Swift
WR AJB Deebo Ridley Sutton
TE Kittle Fant
Team 6
Bestball 12 Team
PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
QB RB WR TE 7Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon ETN
WR Chase DK DJM Juju
TE Pitts Kittle
Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
No update yet haha, but I’ll let you know if I have a resolution! Currently have my offer of 1.02 + 1.06 for 1.01 + 1.12 pending.
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
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Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
That’s dirty. I wouldn’t pull that crap.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
You say you want Trevor bad. So did you ever think of Dak for the 1.01? I assume Lawrence’s start up value will be about 1.11-2.05 in SF drafts this spring? Dak likely goes within that same tier. Maybe he even throws you a pick in return.
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Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
^^^ I agree here. Keep the Picks. Might not be crazy to get 2 bites at QB apple: 1.02 Fields, 1.03 Harris, 1.05 QB3(Lance/Wilson), 1.06 Pitts or Chase. You might start a QB run on next 2-3 QB (Mac Jones, Kyle Pitts) and you could get a decent WR/RB to fall to 2.03murphysxm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:56 am I think he is going to unabtainable from an owner that tanked in order to likely take him. He probably wants him as much as you. You would likely have to give him 3 1sts to get him to start listening. Not worth it IMO. I agree with Gator though, ask him straight up. You'll know pretty quickly what the cost willl be and there is nothng to lose
Personally I am taking Fields, Wilson, Harris or TE and Chase and I am thrilled with my draft. Trevor looks like he is going to excel, but that is a haul and quickens your rebuild dramatically
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RB: Miles Sanders/D. Swift/James Robinson/R. Jones/D. Harris/R Penny/L Murray/B. Scott
WR: AJ Brown/Golladay/Allen Robinson/T. Higgins/Van Jefferson/G. Davis/Bryan Edwards/Scotty Miller
TE: Andrews/Goedert
K: J. Sanders
P: R. Dixon
CB: Tyron Johnson/Carlton Davis/Mike Hilton
S: K. Neal/T. Rapp/J Chinn/D Sorensen
EDR: M Garrett/Maxx Crosby/ Josh Allen/Y. Gross-Matos/H Reddick/C. Ferrell
IL: S Tuitt/E Oliver/M Ioannidis
LB: D. White/D. Jones/F. Warner/L. Vander Esch/L. Wilson
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'22 picks: 1,1,1, 2,3,4,5,6,7
'23 picks: 1,1, 3,4,5,7
Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
Coming around to this idea more and more. My 1.01 + 1.12 for 1.02 + 1.06 offer is still pending for the time being and I’d still be happy with that, but I’m not willing to move multiple 1sts when I have so many holes to fill on Team 5. Will probably go QB/RB and either QB/WR or QB/RB depending on who is available after the 1.04.Perry_Grin13 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:51 pm^^^ I agree here. Keep the Picks. Might not be crazy to get 2 bites at QB apple: 1.02 Fields, 1.03 Harris, 1.05 QB3(Lance/Wilson), 1.06 Pitts or Chase. You might start a QB run on next 2-3 QB (Mac Jones, Kyle Pitts) and you could get a decent WR/RB to fall to 2.03murphysxm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:56 am I think he is going to unabtainable from an owner that tanked in order to likely take him. He probably wants him as much as you. You would likely have to give him 3 1sts to get him to start listening. Not worth it IMO. I agree with Gator though, ask him straight up. You'll know pretty quickly what the cost willl be and there is nothng to lose
Personally I am taking Fields, Wilson, Harris or TE and Chase and I am thrilled with my draft. Trevor looks like he is going to excel, but that is a haul and quickens your rebuild dramatically
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
OK time for some real talk here.
I remember when Barkley came out, a generational player at another position, and 1.01 owners were turning down offers of 1.02+1.03.
Lawrence is a generational talent at a likely even more important position. You need to stop *****footing around with this. The more "feeler" offers he rejects the more he is going to convince himself that he just wants to keep Lawrence. He already tanked for him so he's probably already half way there. If you want Lawrence you need to come in with something strong. Something that seems ridiculous right now, but probably won't once May rolls around.
You want Lawrence? Offer 1.02+1.03 and be done with it. It sounds crazy now but Fields is just a fine prospect the same as RG3 and Leaf were fine prospects behind Luck and Peyton.
Just my 2 cents. I got notably worse at fantasy football when I started getting obsessed with "value" and passed on players I knew were going to be big because the value wasn't right. Two years from now the players that came from 1.02/1.03 probably won't sniff Lawrence. If Lawrence is half the player we and NFL GMs think he is then this will be the cheapest he'll ever be.
I remember when Barkley came out, a generational player at another position, and 1.01 owners were turning down offers of 1.02+1.03.
Lawrence is a generational talent at a likely even more important position. You need to stop *****footing around with this. The more "feeler" offers he rejects the more he is going to convince himself that he just wants to keep Lawrence. He already tanked for him so he's probably already half way there. If you want Lawrence you need to come in with something strong. Something that seems ridiculous right now, but probably won't once May rolls around.
You want Lawrence? Offer 1.02+1.03 and be done with it. It sounds crazy now but Fields is just a fine prospect the same as RG3 and Leaf were fine prospects behind Luck and Peyton.
Just my 2 cents. I got notably worse at fantasy football when I started getting obsessed with "value" and passed on players I knew were going to be big because the value wasn't right. Two years from now the players that came from 1.02/1.03 probably won't sniff Lawrence. If Lawrence is half the player we and NFL GMs think he is then this will be the cheapest he'll ever be.
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Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
Well said. If you want Lawrence, you are gonna have to pay up. Trying to cheap out is going to just piss off the other owner.Vcize wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:00 pm OK time for some real talk here.
I remember when Barkley came out, a generational player at another position, and 1.01 owners were turning down offers of 1.02+1.03.
Lawrence is a generational talent at a likely even more important position. You need to stop *****footing around with this. The more "feeler" offers he rejects the more he is going to convince himself that he just wants to keep Lawrence. He already tanked for him so he's probably already half way there. If you want Lawrence you need to come in with something strong. Something that seems ridiculous right now, but probably won't once May rolls around.
You want Lawrence? Offer 1.02+1.03 and be done with it. It sounds crazy now but Fields is just a fine prospect the same as RG3 and Leaf were fine prospects behind Luck and Peyton.
Just my 2 cents. I got notably worse at fantasy football when I started getting obsessed with "value" and passed on players I knew were going to be big because the value wasn't right. Two years from now the players that came from 1.02/1.03 probably won't sniff Lawrence. If Lawrence is half the player we and NFL GMs think he is then this will be the cheapest he'll ever be.
Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
Yea that’s completely fair. If I didn’t have so many other holes to fill I’d be just fine giving a ton up for him, but that’s not the position I’m in so it’s better to just step away.Vcize wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:00 pm OK time for some real talk here.
I remember when Barkley came out, a generational player at another position, and 1.01 owners were turning down offers of 1.02+1.03.
Lawrence is a generational talent at a likely even more important position. You need to stop *****footing around with this. The more "feeler" offers he rejects the more he is going to convince himself that he just wants to keep Lawrence. He already tanked for him so he's probably already half way there. If you want Lawrence you need to come in with something strong. Something that seems ridiculous right now, but probably won't once May rolls around.
You want Lawrence? Offer 1.02+1.03 and be done with it. It sounds crazy now but Fields is just a fine prospect the same as RG3 and Leaf were fine prospects behind Luck and Peyton.
Just my 2 cents. I got notably worse at fantasy football when I started getting obsessed with "value" and passed on players I knew were going to be big because the value wasn't right. Two years from now the players that came from 1.02/1.03 probably won't sniff Lawrence. If Lawrence is half the player we and NFL GMs think he is then this will be the cheapest he'll ever be.
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
I think you will need to go with an offer that makes you a little more uncomfortable to get it done. 1.02, 1.06, 2.09 for 1.01 and 2.02 would get me at least thinking about it. Your first offers were pretty short. At least see if you can get them to counter, to get an idea if its something even feasible for your team.
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Goff Geno Pickett
RB Bijan CMC Chubb JWill Kendre
WR Pittman Diontae Mooney Juju Hyatt Nico
TE Waller Schultz
Team 2
12 team SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Hurts Darnold Mac Love
RB Saquon Chubb Mixon Dillon
WR Kupp Amari Ridley Juju Cooks Diontae
TE Kittle Hock
Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Herbert Love Ridder Lance
RB CBrown Chandler
WR Olave CWatson EMoore Nico
TE Pitts
Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert
RB JT CMC Breece Mixon Henry
WR AJB Metcalf Kupp Diontae Juju EMoore
TE Kittle Pat
Team 5
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Allen Pickett Carr Baker
RB CMC Saquon Swift
WR AJB Deebo Ridley Sutton
TE Kittle Fant
Team 6
Bestball 12 Team
PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
QB RB WR TE 7Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon ETN
WR Chase DK DJM Juju
TE Pitts Kittle
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Goff Geno Pickett
RB Bijan CMC Chubb JWill Kendre
WR Pittman Diontae Mooney Juju Hyatt Nico
TE Waller Schultz
Team 2
12 team SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Hurts Darnold Mac Love
RB Saquon Chubb Mixon Dillon
WR Kupp Amari Ridley Juju Cooks Diontae
TE Kittle Hock
Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Herbert Love Ridder Lance
RB CBrown Chandler
WR Olave CWatson EMoore Nico
TE Pitts
Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert
RB JT CMC Breece Mixon Henry
WR AJB Metcalf Kupp Diontae Juju EMoore
TE Kittle Pat
Team 5
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Allen Pickett Carr Baker
RB CMC Saquon Swift
WR AJB Deebo Ridley Sutton
TE Kittle Fant
Team 6
Bestball 12 Team
PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
QB RB WR TE 7Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon ETN
WR Chase DK DJM Juju
TE Pitts Kittle
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Re: Cost to move from 1.02 to 1.01 (SF 12-team)
Tough ask. The perceived value from 1.01 to 1.02 is huge this year.
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