Funny because 6'1 186 would be the same BMI as Brown (24.5). Not that I'd be too concerned with that. Like people have said BMI isn't the end-all be-all... Jeudy and Lamb were both around 25.5 and who knows if the combine weigh ins are really what they play at anyway. Jeudy was 6'1 193; 7 pounds shouldn't make or break a prospectbriank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:15 pmBrown measured in at 5'9" 166 at the combine. I bet Smith ends up being 6'1" 180+. That's a lot closer to Calvin Ridley. People had the same concerns about him pre combine.
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But Smith isn't said to be 7 pounds lighter, the only info with have atm is 79kgs or 174.165lb according to his wiki (i've commonly heard 175lb from different places). So he's be almost 19lb lighter than Jeudy.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:19 pmFunny because 6'1 186 would be the same BMI as Brown (24.5). Not that I'd be too concerned with that. Like people have said BMI isn't the end-all be-all... Jeudy and Lamb were both around 25.5 and who knows if the combine weigh ins are really what they play at anyway. Jeudy was 6'1 193; 7 pounds shouldn't make or break a prospect
Obvs this will all change at the combine when we get official numbers, its almost guaranteed he will bulk up for the combine to knock back a lot of these too small arguments, hopefully he doesn't do a Reagor and bulk up but then drop his speed score significantly.
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If he does people should take that into consideration, no one seemed to care for Reagor, or about his 3 cone time which was probably relevant for a wide receiver his size (as opposed to DK where it clearly wasn’t) lolAussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:52 pmBut Smith isn't said to be 7 pounds lighter, the only info with have atm is 79kgs or 174.165lb according to his wiki (i've commonly heard 175lb from different places). So he's be almost 19lb lighter than Jeudy.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:19 pmFunny because 6'1 186 would be the same BMI as Brown (24.5). Not that I'd be too concerned with that. Like people have said BMI isn't the end-all be-all... Jeudy and Lamb were both around 25.5 and who knows if the combine weigh ins are really what they play at anyway. Jeudy was 6'1 193; 7 pounds shouldn't make or break a prospect
Obvs this will all change at the combine when we get official numbers, its almost guaranteed he will bulk up for the combine to knock back a lot of these too small arguments, hopefully he doesn't do a Reagor and bulk up but then drop his speed score significantly.
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I think I bought into Reagors pro day numbers a tad too much as well as not paying attention to his combine speed. I didn't think his combine speed was accurate, but he was definitely bulked up therecantguardjake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pmIf he does people should take that into consideration, no one seemed to care for Reagor, or about his 3 cone time which was probably relevant for a wide receiver his size (as opposed to DK where it clearly wasn’t) lolAussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:52 pmBut Smith isn't said to be 7 pounds lighter, the only info with have atm is 79kgs or 174.165lb according to his wiki (i've commonly heard 175lb from different places). So he's be almost 19lb lighter than Jeudy.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:19 pm
Funny because 6'1 186 would be the same BMI as Brown (24.5). Not that I'd be too concerned with that. Like people have said BMI isn't the end-all be-all... Jeudy and Lamb were both around 25.5 and who knows if the combine weigh ins are really what they play at anyway. Jeudy was 6'1 193; 7 pounds shouldn't make or break a prospect
Obvs this will all change at the combine when we get official numbers, its almost guaranteed he will bulk up for the combine to knock back a lot of these too small arguments, hopefully he doesn't do a Reagor and bulk up but then drop his speed score significantly.
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Reagor's was a weird trade off, its not like he was considered slight at his usual 192-ishlbs or whatever it was, him bulking up to 206 was unnecessary IMO. Smith I feel will need to add some lbs if he truly is 175, I'd be confident he can add 10lbs without losing much speed but you never know with people.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:39 pmI think I bought into Reagors pro day numbers a tad too much as well as not paying attention to his combine speed. I didn't think his combine speed was accurate, but he was definitely bulked up therecantguardjake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pmIf he does people should take that into consideration, no one seemed to care for Reagor, or about his 3 cone time which was probably relevant for a wide receiver his size (as opposed to DK where it clearly wasn’t) lolAussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:52 pm
But Smith isn't said to be 7 pounds lighter, the only info with have atm is 79kgs or 174.165lb according to his wiki (i've commonly heard 175lb from different places). So he's be almost 19lb lighter than Jeudy.
Obvs this will all change at the combine when we get official numbers, its almost guaranteed he will bulk up for the combine to knock back a lot of these too small arguments, hopefully he doesn't do a Reagor and bulk up but then drop his speed score significantly.
Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?
Point taken although the most recent one is from September in which a lot has changed College wise. The other two are from 2010 and 2013 respectively.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:36 pm viewtopic.php?f=5&t=202613
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Maybe change this to "who in the 2nd or 3rd round are you really trying to make sure you get because of their talent/being undervalued."
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread
Why are people trying to come up with reasons they misevaluated Reagor? Dude is far from a bust at this point..Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:39 pmI think I bought into Reagors pro day numbers a tad too much as well as not paying attention to his combine speed. I didn't think his combine speed was accurate, but he was definitely bulked up therecantguardjake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pmIf he does people should take that into consideration, no one seemed to care for Reagor, or about his 3 cone time which was probably relevant for a wide receiver his size (as opposed to DK where it clearly wasn’t) lolAussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:52 pm
But Smith isn't said to be 7 pounds lighter, the only info with have atm is 79kgs or 174.165lb according to his wiki (i've commonly heard 175lb from different places). So he's be almost 19lb lighter than Jeudy.
Obvs this will all change at the combine when we get official numbers, its almost guaranteed he will bulk up for the combine to knock back a lot of these too small arguments, hopefully he doesn't do a Reagor and bulk up but then drop his speed score significantly.
Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?
No, they are not...colt77 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:22 pmPoint taken although the most recent one is from September in which a lot has changed College wise. The other two are from 2010 and 2013 respectively.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:36 pm viewtopic.php?f=5&t=202613
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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?
you're looking at when the poster joined, not when the thread was started. The guys being discussed should be a pointer that its the 2021 draft. And the thread titlescolt77 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:22 pmPoint taken although the most recent one is from September in which a lot has changed College wise. The other two are from 2010 and 2013 respectively.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:36 pm viewtopic.php?f=5&t=202613
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread
No where did I call him a bust. I still like him but this happens with me, and probably everyone. We buy too much into some numbers and ignore some other ones. He's still athletic and the situation/injury held him back. Not saying he can't produce and his athleticism probably won't be the reason why.Sriracha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:43 pmWhy are people trying to come up with reasons they misevaluated Reagor? Dude is far from a bust at this point..Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:39 pmI think I bought into Reagors pro day numbers a tad too much as well as not paying attention to his combine speed. I didn't think his combine speed was accurate, but he was definitely bulked up therecantguardjake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:10 pm
If he does people should take that into consideration, no one seemed to care for Reagor, or about his 3 cone time which was probably relevant for a wide receiver his size (as opposed to DK where it clearly wasn’t) lol
I just wanted to admit that I bought into his pro day numbers where he ran much faster, with no weigh in and used his combine weigh in numbers and tossed those speed numbers to the side. He's right in the middle of both sets of numbers most likely.
It would be foolish to call many of these top rated WR a bust. Jeudy had a fine year and I think he's a solid WR2 moving forward. Ruggs and Reagor both have plenty of room to improve, I wouldn't be surprised if they bust or are more situational players but I still have hope
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He just doesn't have the frame to really add weight. He's pretty much maxed out.briank wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:04 pmHe's listed at 6'1" 175. I know listings aren't always accurate, but I can't imagine he comes in much below that. I'd bet he's a lot closer to his listed height and weight than what Marquise Brown measured in at. He's got some time to put on good weight.
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A lot of People? * I should have mentioned NFL instead of fantasy.
I get the fantasy love for Chase but Smith proved this year to be lethal playing inside or out. He is going to make a NFL QB really happy week 1. His route skill is really polished already.
The extra year of college really help and having a NFL quality QB will almost ensure he will be the 1st WR drafted in the NFL. His versatility is exceptional. Sound against press and great in space.
Chase will need a great combine after sitting out a season to even be considered the top pick at WR while Smith was winning the Heisman, the first for a WR since 1991. I can just imagine a GM trying to explain taking Chase ahead of him to the owner.
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