Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:29 pm

Ice wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:01 pm
broncohead wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:45 pm
Ice wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:42 pm

Not really;

I actually asked



I agree it's not happening; Moving On!
He would start over Lock

Okay,

Ask Elway when you see him and get back to me with his actual answer!

It's not that I don't believe you......but.....:biggrin:
To detail this thread even more... Elways not even in charge! Lol sorry I had to

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby Ice » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:35 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:29 pm
Ice wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:01 pm
broncohead wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:45 pm

He would start over Lock

Okay,

Ask Elway when you see him and get back to me with his actual answer!

It's not that I don't believe you......but.....:biggrin:
To detail this thread even more... Elways not even in charge! Lol sorry I had to
Hahah figured someone would say he is not in charge like Jerry Jones isn't in charge of the Cowboys since Elway will be the one to hire a GM.

Come to think of it he probably would like Dalton.

I can see Elway now in interviews. Give me your thoughts on Dalton as a starter...:thumbup:
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:07 pm

Ice wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:35 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:29 pm
Ice wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:01 pm


Okay,

Ask Elway when you see him and get back to me with his actual answer!

It's not that I don't believe you......but.....:biggrin:
To detail this thread even more... Elways not even in charge! Lol sorry I had to
Hahah figured someone would say he is not in charge like Jerry Jones isn't in charge of the Cowboys since Elway will be the one to hire a GM.

Come to think of it he probably would like Dalton.

I can see Elway now in interviews. Give me your thoughts on Dalton as a starter...:thumbup:
As a Ravens fan, I loved Dalton as a starter. 2 wins a year.

Also, I'm sad to see Ruggs is being given 0 chance at improving. It's unfortunate :lol:

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby StripesOfKC » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:21 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:07 pm
Ice wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:35 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:29 pm

To detail this thread even more... Elways not even in charge! Lol sorry I had to
Hahah figured someone would say he is not in charge like Jerry Jones isn't in charge of the Cowboys since Elway will be the one to hire a GM.

Come to think of it he probably would like Dalton.

I can see Elway now in interviews. Give me your thoughts on Dalton as a starter...:thumbup:
As a Ravens fan, I loved Dalton as a starter. 2 wins a year.

Also, I'm sad to see Ruggs is being given 0 chance at improving. It's unfortunate :lol:
A Ravens fan of all people should not be making fun of Dalton lol.

He is 8-8 all time against the Ravens and that's including the corpse of a team he worked with last year. A winning record before that

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:29 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:21 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:07 pm
Ice wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:35 pm

Hahah figured someone would say he is not in charge like Jerry Jones isn't in charge of the Cowboys since Elway will be the one to hire a GM.

Come to think of it he probably would like Dalton.

I can see Elway now in interviews. Give me your thoughts on Dalton as a starter...:thumbup:
As a Ravens fan, I loved Dalton as a starter. 2 wins a year.

Also, I'm sad to see Ruggs is being given 0 chance at improving. It's unfortunate :lol:
A Ravens fan of all people should not be making fun of Dalton lol.

He is 8-8 all time against the Ravens and that's including the corpse of a team he worked with last year. A winning record before that
8-9

Ravens swept the Bengals last year and didn't play Dalton but yeah 8-9 is a fantastic record. He's probably pretty good in the post season too!

Not sure what this has to do with JJ though...

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby StripesOfKC » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:54 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:29 pm
StripesOfKC wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:21 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:07 pm

As a Ravens fan, I loved Dalton as a starter. 2 wins a year.

Also, I'm sad to see Ruggs is being given 0 chance at improving. It's unfortunate :lol:
A Ravens fan of all people should not be making fun of Dalton lol.

He is 8-8 all time against the Ravens and that's including the corpse of a team he worked with last year. A winning record before that
8-9

Ravens swept the Bengals last year and didn't play Dalton but yeah 8-9 is a fantastic record. He's probably pretty good in the post season too!

Not sure what this has to do with JJ though...
As good as Lamar

Anyways as for JJ there is a case that he is overvalued right now depending on league but none that he is about to get hit with massive regression based on situation

His situation is a really low volume passing attack as a 1a having proven himself without the 1b with a more or less average ish QB (perhaps slightly above average some years)

His situation is just as--if not more likely--to improve as it is to get worse

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby cantguardjake » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:58 pm

Ice wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:11 pm
cantguardjake wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pm
Ice wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:13 am

Says the voice of inexperience...... :wall:
Not all of us had him WR #1 like you. Darnell Mooney is the same player (but can actually get open) that coulda been had for free.

Maybe with an offseason he can really fine tune his apparent “nuanced” route running lol.

As for the thread I would still take Tyreek over JJ, 2 top 3 seasons in 2 years and still only 26 however JJ would fall in the next tier with Metcalf most likely.
Always enjoy reading from people that only think with an instant memory no recall mindset.

What is a bit ironic about your comment though is Tyreek was nothing special as rookie amassing 593 yards in 15 games. A. Brown only managed 167 yards as a rookie. Ruggs obviously struggled with 492 yards in 13 games.

Ruggs may never be great but it is the fool who thinks a player is nothing and will never improve especially the ones with gifts only a handful of players have at the highest level in sports have.

Maybe you're the genius or maybe the fool.

We all miss on players and some of us understand it takes time to develop. It is way too soon to label any of the top picks in this class a bust given it was one of the best classes of WR's in years.

BTW, It is rare for any rookie WR to put up great numbers. Jefferson to his credit just broke the All TIME record yet finished 8th in PPr leagues 2 spots behind 2nd year Metcalf in fantasy.
Tyreek also caught 61 balls and had an extra 267 yards rushing for 3 touchdowns, as well as 3 special teams touchdowns + a pro bowl - but fair enough if that’s nothing special lol

AB also caught 300 balls in college unlike Ruggs, but I digress.

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby Valhalla » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:48 am

Pages upon pages of arguing about players (and positions) aside from the thread topic. :lol:

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby joeday » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:59 am

Valhalla wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:48 am Pages upon pages of arguing about players (and positions) aside from the thread topic. :lol:

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I disagree. If you want just a love fest thread for Jefferson then that should be stated, but the OP wanted to hear information on why or why not Jefferson is the #1 dynasty WR (which, in some circles, would translate to #1 dynasty player overall). Comparing him to other players like Lamb, DJM, etc is related to that. Talking about his OC leaving and how that could effect Jefferson (and the offense as a whole) is related to that. Flushing out the other WRs taken in his class, like Ruggs, is related to that. Comparing his QB situation to that of other WRs' QB situation is related to that.
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WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
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12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby Valhalla » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 am

joeday wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:59 am
Valhalla wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:48 am Pages upon pages of arguing about players (and positions) aside from the thread topic. :lol:

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I disagree. If you want just a love fest thread for Jefferson then that should be stated, but the OP wanted to hear information on why or why not Jefferson is the #1 dynasty WR (which, in some circles, would translate to #1 dynasty player overall). Comparing him to other players like Lamb, DJM, etc is related to that. Talking about his OC leaving and how that could effect Jefferson (and the offense as a whole) is related to that. Flushing out the other WRs taken in his class, like Ruggs, is related to that. Comparing his QB situation to that of other WRs' QB situation is related to that.
I'll choose to continue to see the comedy in it. I don't mind it at all. I do the same. It's just funny to see pages of arguing over Dalton in a Jefferson thread, but that's pretty standard in internet threads.

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby joeday » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:51 am

Valhalla wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 am I'll choose to continue to see the comedy in it. I don't mind it at all. I do the same. It's just funny to see pages of arguing over Dalton in a Jefferson thread, but that's pretty standard in internet threads.
Though I suspect you understand why Dalton was discussed, right?
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1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – 🏆
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – 🥈

14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – 🏆
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – 🥈

12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby hoos89 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:30 pm

I think all dynasty WRs in contention for #1 dynasty WR are fair game in this thread, and to that end discussing the gap between Dalton and Cousins as it relates to the Lamb vs Jefferson debate is totally on point.
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby CGW » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:36 pm

Mizelle January data is up, and as expected JJ jumped to reflect his end of season numbers. Hes right there with Hill and AJB, and a bit after DK. Seems about right, and hard to fault anyone for having them in any order at the top.

5 DK
6 Adams
9 JJ
10 Hill
11 AJB
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby Valhalla » Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:11 pm

joeday wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:51 am
Valhalla wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:10 am I'll choose to continue to see the comedy in it. I don't mind it at all. I do the same. It's just funny to see pages of arguing over Dalton in a Jefferson thread, but that's pretty standard in internet threads.
Though I suspect you understand why Dalton was discussed, right?
Of course I understand it, but I still think it's funny. We go down so many tangents in talking about sports that a Jefferson thread can go on a path of discussing Dalton's stats from years ago. I understand it. Fault me for calling it funny I suppose.

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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?

Postby AussieMate » Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:50 pm

When ranking dynasty wrs it's hard not to have JJ insanely high, I would still have Metcalf, AJB, and Hill over him. The only reason they are higher is because I've seen it from them in a 2nd/more years.
I have no concerns about JJ doing it again, but those other 3 HAVE done it again.
I also have no issue with others ranking him higher and taking that, albeit small, risk.


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