To detail this thread even more... Elways not even in charge! Lol sorry I had toIce wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:01 pm
Okay,
Ask Elway when you see him and get back to me with his actual answer!
It's not that I don't believe you......but.....
Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
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Hahah figured someone would say he is not in charge like Jerry Jones isn't in charge of the Cowboys since Elway will be the one to hire a GM.
Come to think of it he probably would like Dalton.
I can see Elway now in interviews. Give me your thoughts on Dalton as a starter...
The Clock is Running and there are no Timeouts
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
As a Ravens fan, I loved Dalton as a starter. 2 wins a year.Ice wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:35 pmHahah figured someone would say he is not in charge like Jerry Jones isn't in charge of the Cowboys since Elway will be the one to hire a GM.
Come to think of it he probably would like Dalton.
I can see Elway now in interviews. Give me your thoughts on Dalton as a starter...
Also, I'm sad to see Ruggs is being given 0 chance at improving. It's unfortunate
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
A Ravens fan of all people should not be making fun of Dalton lol.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:07 pmAs a Ravens fan, I loved Dalton as a starter. 2 wins a year.Ice wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:35 pmHahah figured someone would say he is not in charge like Jerry Jones isn't in charge of the Cowboys since Elway will be the one to hire a GM.
Come to think of it he probably would like Dalton.
I can see Elway now in interviews. Give me your thoughts on Dalton as a starter...
Also, I'm sad to see Ruggs is being given 0 chance at improving. It's unfortunate
He is 8-8 all time against the Ravens and that's including the corpse of a team he worked with last year. A winning record before that
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
8-9StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:21 pmA Ravens fan of all people should not be making fun of Dalton lol.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:07 pmAs a Ravens fan, I loved Dalton as a starter. 2 wins a year.Ice wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:35 pm
Hahah figured someone would say he is not in charge like Jerry Jones isn't in charge of the Cowboys since Elway will be the one to hire a GM.
Come to think of it he probably would like Dalton.
I can see Elway now in interviews. Give me your thoughts on Dalton as a starter...
Also, I'm sad to see Ruggs is being given 0 chance at improving. It's unfortunate
He is 8-8 all time against the Ravens and that's including the corpse of a team he worked with last year. A winning record before that
Ravens swept the Bengals last year and didn't play Dalton but yeah 8-9 is a fantastic record. He's probably pretty good in the post season too!
Not sure what this has to do with JJ though...
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As good as LamarJigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:29 pm8-9StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:21 pmA Ravens fan of all people should not be making fun of Dalton lol.
He is 8-8 all time against the Ravens and that's including the corpse of a team he worked with last year. A winning record before that
Ravens swept the Bengals last year and didn't play Dalton but yeah 8-9 is a fantastic record. He's probably pretty good in the post season too!
Not sure what this has to do with JJ though...
Anyways as for JJ there is a case that he is overvalued right now depending on league but none that he is about to get hit with massive regression based on situation
His situation is a really low volume passing attack as a 1a having proven himself without the 1b with a more or less average ish QB (perhaps slightly above average some years)
His situation is just as--if not more likely--to improve as it is to get worse
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Tyreek also caught 61 balls and had an extra 267 yards rushing for 3 touchdowns, as well as 3 special teams touchdowns + a pro bowl - but fair enough if that’s nothing special lolIce wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:11 pmAlways enjoy reading from people that only think with an instant memory no recall mindset.cantguardjake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:57 pmNot all of us had him WR #1 like you. Darnell Mooney is the same player (but can actually get open) that coulda been had for free.
Maybe with an offseason he can really fine tune his apparent “nuanced” route running lol.
As for the thread I would still take Tyreek over JJ, 2 top 3 seasons in 2 years and still only 26 however JJ would fall in the next tier with Metcalf most likely.
What is a bit ironic about your comment though is Tyreek was nothing special as rookie amassing 593 yards in 15 games. A. Brown only managed 167 yards as a rookie. Ruggs obviously struggled with 492 yards in 13 games.
Ruggs may never be great but it is the fool who thinks a player is nothing and will never improve especially the ones with gifts only a handful of players have at the highest level in sports have.
Maybe you're the genius or maybe the fool.
We all miss on players and some of us understand it takes time to develop. It is way too soon to label any of the top picks in this class a bust given it was one of the best classes of WR's in years.
BTW, It is rare for any rookie WR to put up great numbers. Jefferson to his credit just broke the All TIME record yet finished 8th in PPr leagues 2 spots behind 2nd year Metcalf in fantasy.
AB also caught 300 balls in college unlike Ruggs, but I digress.
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Pages upon pages of arguing about players (and positions) aside from the thread topic.
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I disagree. If you want just a love fest thread for Jefferson then that should be stated, but the OP wanted to hear information on why or why not Jefferson is the #1 dynasty WR (which, in some circles, would translate to #1 dynasty player overall). Comparing him to other players like Lamb, DJM, etc is related to that. Talking about his OC leaving and how that could effect Jefferson (and the offense as a whole) is related to that. Flushing out the other WRs taken in his class, like Ruggs, is related to that. Comparing his QB situation to that of other WRs' QB situation is related to that.
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
I'll choose to continue to see the comedy in it. I don't mind it at all. I do the same. It's just funny to see pages of arguing over Dalton in a Jefferson thread, but that's pretty standard in internet threads.joeday wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:59 amI disagree. If you want just a love fest thread for Jefferson then that should be stated, but the OP wanted to hear information on why or why not Jefferson is the #1 dynasty WR (which, in some circles, would translate to #1 dynasty player overall). Comparing him to other players like Lamb, DJM, etc is related to that. Talking about his OC leaving and how that could effect Jefferson (and the offense as a whole) is related to that. Flushing out the other WRs taken in his class, like Ruggs, is related to that. Comparing his QB situation to that of other WRs' QB situation is related to that.
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Though I suspect you understand why Dalton was discussed, right?
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
I think all dynasty WRs in contention for #1 dynasty WR are fair game in this thread, and to that end discussing the gap between Dalton and Cousins as it relates to the Lamb vs Jefferson debate is totally on point.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Mizelle January data is up, and as expected JJ jumped to reflect his end of season numbers. Hes right there with Hill and AJB, and a bit after DK. Seems about right, and hard to fault anyone for having them in any order at the top.
5 DK
6 Adams
9 JJ
10 Hill
11 AJB
16 Lamb
5 DK
6 Adams
9 JJ
10 Hill
11 AJB
16 Lamb
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Of course I understand it, but I still think it's funny. We go down so many tangents in talking about sports that a Jefferson thread can go on a path of discussing Dalton's stats from years ago. I understand it. Fault me for calling it funny I suppose.
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
When ranking dynasty wrs it's hard not to have JJ insanely high, I would still have Metcalf, AJB, and Hill over him. The only reason they are higher is because I've seen it from them in a 2nd/more years.
I have no concerns about JJ doing it again, but those other 3 HAVE done it again.
I also have no issue with others ranking him higher and taking that, albeit small, risk.
I have no concerns about JJ doing it again, but those other 3 HAVE done it again.
I also have no issue with others ranking him higher and taking that, albeit small, risk.
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