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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby ThunderTung » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:37 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:04 pm
ThunderTung wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:47 pm
StripesOfKC wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:32 pm Favorite early to mid 2nd round WR prospects? Thinking in the Amon Ra/Olave/Rondale Moore/Toney/Marshall/maybe Tylan Wallace group
I really like Moore, and Olave. Cant say much for the rest. tbf though I'm not all that confident that you'll be able to get the two I listed in the 2nd (besides maybe sf)
Moore would surely have been a 1st in early 2021 mock drafts from last year but his stock seems to have fallen across the board
You know how it is though, by the time the combine rolls around he'll probably climb back up lol
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby cantguardjake » Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:54 am

StripesOfKC wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:32 pm Favorite early to mid 2nd round WR prospects? Thinking in the Amon Ra/Olave/Rondale Moore/Toney/Marshall/maybe Tylan Wallace group
Terry interests me more than all of them, shame he didn’t really get a chance to do anything this year. Will be interesting to see how his draft capital looks, anything inside 3 rounds and I’d take him over all of them.

Moore is fun, really keen to see his weigh in / BMI - will need to be solid as he doesn’t look 4.3 to me which he’ll need to be at that height (ala Tyreek). If only he were a little bigger, his size will really limit him.

Initially thought Olave was only average but on second review he’s actually a lot bigger than I thought, and saw that he was listed at 187 pounds which is pretty interesting. He kinda reminds me of a supersized Hollywood with the way he moves.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby jenkins.math » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:44 am

McShay's first mock draft of the year

1) Lawrence - Jags
3) Smith - Dolphins
4) Wilson - Falcons
7) Chase - Lions
8) Pitts - Panthers
15) Fields - Pats
16) Etienne - Cards
17) Waddle - Raiders
18) Bateman - Dolphins
19) Lance - Football Team
20) Elijah Moore - Bears
21) Mac Jones - Colts
25) Olave - Jets
28) Harris - Pitt
31) Marshall Jr - Packers

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:46 am

Fields at 15 is hilarious. He's not dropping out of the top 5, and should go 2nd.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby yinzername » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:02 am

bjd5211 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:46 am Fields at 15 is hilarious. He's not dropping out of the top 5, and should go 2nd.
i could obvi see Jets or Falcons, but not so much Miami or Cinci
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.10
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

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SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
picks: 1.09, 2.11

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:14 am

realmacaroni wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:02 am
bjd5211 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:46 am Fields at 15 is hilarious. He's not dropping out of the top 5, and should go 2nd.
i could obvi see Jets or Falcons, but not so much Miami or Cinci
I wouldn't rule out Miami completely, and yes Cincy won't take him, but both teams can trade the pick. He won't make it passed 5, and I doubt he makes it that far.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Sriracha » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:19 am

cantguardjake wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:54 am
StripesOfKC wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:32 pm Favorite early to mid 2nd round WR prospects? Thinking in the Amon Ra/Olave/Rondale Moore/Toney/Marshall/maybe Tylan Wallace group
Terry interests me more than all of them, shame he didn’t really get a chance to do anything this year. Will be interesting to see how his draft capital looks, anything inside 3 rounds and I’d take him over all of them.

Moore is fun, really keen to see his weigh in / BMI - will need to be solid as he doesn’t look 4.3 to me which he’ll need to be at that height (ala Tyreek). If only he were a little bigger, his size will really limit him.

Initially thought Olave was only average but on second review he’s actually a lot bigger than I thought, and saw that he was listed at 187 pounds which is pretty interesting. He kinda reminds me of a supersized Hollywood with the way he moves.
Rondale will not slip to the 2nd round. If people can look past Devonta's 6'1 174lb frame, Jaylen Waddle's 5'10 183lb frame... then Rondale's 5'9 181lb frame shouldn't push him down. This is a WR draft class of super smurfs. :lol:

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby cantguardjake » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:20 am

I swear these mocks get more clickbaity by the year. That is a terrible mock.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby yinzername » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:30 am

StripesOfKC wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:32 pm Favorite early to mid 2nd round WR prospects? Thinking in the Amon Ra/Olave/Rondale Moore/Toney/Marshall/maybe Tylan Wallace group
very early rankings absolutely subject to change, 12t SF:
Waddle 1.10 WR4
Moore 2.5 WR5
Marshall 2.6 WR6
Amon Ra 2.7 WR7
Olave 2.8 WR8
Wallace 2.10 WR9
Terry 3.1 WR10
Toney 3.2 WR11
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SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.10
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
picks: 1.09, 2.11

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby cantguardjake » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:34 am

Sriracha wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:19 am
cantguardjake wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:54 am
StripesOfKC wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:32 pm Favorite early to mid 2nd round WR prospects? Thinking in the Amon Ra/Olave/Rondale Moore/Toney/Marshall/maybe Tylan Wallace group
Terry interests me more than all of them, shame he didn’t really get a chance to do anything this year. Will be interesting to see how his draft capital looks, anything inside 3 rounds and I’d take him over all of them.

Moore is fun, really keen to see his weigh in / BMI - will need to be solid as he doesn’t look 4.3 to me which he’ll need to be at that height (ala Tyreek). If only he were a little bigger, his size will really limit him.

Initially thought Olave was only average but on second review he’s actually a lot bigger than I thought, and saw that he was listed at 187 pounds which is pretty interesting. He kinda reminds me of a supersized Hollywood with the way he moves.
Rondale will not slip to the 2nd round. If people can look past Devonta's 6'1 174lb frame, Jaylen Waddle's 5'10 183lb frame... then Rondale's 5'9 181lb frame shouldn't push him down. This is a WR draft class of super smurfs. :lol:
True :lol:

I recon Purdue have done Moore a solid with that height listing, he looks about 5 7” lol he also looks slower than Waddle to me, but I guess we’ll see.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Sriracha » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:50 am

cantguardjake wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:34 am
Sriracha wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:19 am
cantguardjake wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:54 am

Terry interests me more than all of them, shame he didn’t really get a chance to do anything this year. Will be interesting to see how his draft capital looks, anything inside 3 rounds and I’d take him over all of them.

Moore is fun, really keen to see his weigh in / BMI - will need to be solid as he doesn’t look 4.3 to me which he’ll need to be at that height (ala Tyreek). If only he were a little bigger, his size will really limit him.

Initially thought Olave was only average but on second review he’s actually a lot bigger than I thought, and saw that he was listed at 187 pounds which is pretty interesting. He kinda reminds me of a supersized Hollywood with the way he moves.
Rondale will not slip to the 2nd round. If people can look past Devonta's 6'1 174lb frame, Jaylen Waddle's 5'10 183lb frame... then Rondale's 5'9 181lb frame shouldn't push him down. This is a WR draft class of super smurfs. :lol:
True :lol:

I recon Purdue have done Moore a solid with that height listing, he looks about 5 7” lol he also looks slower than Waddle to me, but I guess we’ll see.
I suspect Rondale will run close to a 4.4 flat while Waddle will go sub 4.4

Doesn't really matter either way to me. I won't be taking Waddle over Rondale in any draft this off-season. Rondale plays with more power and has a more proven college career. Waddle's exciting.. but a lot of the reason people are high on him is still a projection given how little game reps he's gotten at Alabama.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby SStory93 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:13 pm

I think a guy that is really going under the radar on these boards since he didn't play this year is Nico Collins.

Every time I watch anything on him he is making good-great catches in tough situations. I think he is better than the T. Terrys of the draft based on the plays I have seen and belongs in the 2nd rd especially if he runs in the 4.40s. This is a guy I am targeting in almost all drafts I have atm.
12 Team PPR 2 Flex

QB: Hurts | Watson | Cousins
RB: Hall | Achane | Ekeler| Chubb | Kamara
WR: Hill | AJ Brown | Chase | Aiyuk
TE: Njoku | Waller

🏆: 2023


12 Team PPR SuperFlex IDP

QB: Hurts | Fields | Mayfield
RB: Bijan | Saquon | Ford
WR: Chase | Jefferson | AJ Brown | Metcalf | Puka | Collins
TE: Pitts | Freieemuth
DL: T. Watt
LB: White
DB: Adams | Kearse | Stingley

🏆: 2023

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Sriracha » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:31 pm

SStory93 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:13 pm I think a guy that is really going under the radar on these boards since he didn't play this year is Nico Collins.

Every time I watch anything on him he is making good-great catches in tough situations. I think he is better than the T. Terrys of the draft based on the plays I have seen and belongs in the 2nd rd especially if he runs in the 4.40s. This is a guy I am targeting in almost all drafts I have atm.
He's got some Marvin Jones to his game. Supplanted Donavan Peoples Jones in college and DPJ looks like a decent playmaker at the NFL level. Not a bad prospect, but I wouldn't expect much out of him to begin his career.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby SStory93 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:39 pm

Sriracha wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:31 pm
SStory93 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:13 pm I think a guy that is really going under the radar on these boards since he didn't play this year is Nico Collins.

Every time I watch anything on him he is making good-great catches in tough situations. I think he is better than the T. Terrys of the draft based on the plays I have seen and belongs in the 2nd rd especially if he runs in the 4.40s. This is a guy I am targeting in almost all drafts I have atm.
He's got some Marvin Jones to his game. Supplanted Donavan Peoples Jones in college and DPJ looks like a decent playmaker at the NFL level. Not a bad prospect, but I wouldn't expect much out of him to begin his career.
Funny you say Marvin Jones, I see Golladay comp a lot. But heck what do I know. I just wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up drafted in rd 2 of the NFL draft if he runs a good 40. Also he didn’t play this year, so he didn’t supplant DPJ, I know he had more yards receiving when DPJ was there last year.
12 Team PPR 2 Flex

QB: Hurts | Watson | Cousins
RB: Hall | Achane | Ekeler| Chubb | Kamara
WR: Hill | AJ Brown | Chase | Aiyuk
TE: Njoku | Waller

🏆: 2023


12 Team PPR SuperFlex IDP

QB: Hurts | Fields | Mayfield
RB: Bijan | Saquon | Ford
WR: Chase | Jefferson | AJ Brown | Metcalf | Puka | Collins
TE: Pitts | Freieemuth
DL: T. Watt
LB: White
DB: Adams | Kearse | Stingley

🏆: 2023

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Sriracha » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:56 pm

SStory93 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:39 pm
Sriracha wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:31 pm
SStory93 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:13 pm I think a guy that is really going under the radar on these boards since he didn't play this year is Nico Collins.

Every time I watch anything on him he is making good-great catches in tough situations. I think he is better than the T. Terrys of the draft based on the plays I have seen and belongs in the 2nd rd especially if he runs in the 4.40s. This is a guy I am targeting in almost all drafts I have atm.
He's got some Marvin Jones to his game. Supplanted Donavan Peoples Jones in college and DPJ looks like a decent playmaker at the NFL level. Not a bad prospect, but I wouldn't expect much out of him to begin his career.
Funny you say Marvin Jones, I see Golladay comp a lot. But heck what do I know. I just wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up drafted in rd 2 of the NFL draft if he runs a good 40. Also he didn’t play this year, so he didn’t supplant DPJ, I know he had more yards receiving when DPJ was there last year.
DPJ is on the Browns this year; so whether or not he played this year is irrelevant :lol:

I get the size comparison with Kenny G... but I'm strictly talking about his game (which is definitely not a bad thing). Even Kenny G snuck into the late 3rd round. I'd be very, very surprised if he went in the 2nd unless he turns in a sub 4.4 (which isn't happening)


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