Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Let's extrapolate jj's numbers with a better qb than cousins
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Threads like this make me dislike a player I actually like lol. Did you watch the first few games with Dalton? Or Garrett Gilbert? Or Ben DiNuci? They were collectively horrendous. Dalton picked it up toward the end of the season but that middle chunk was terrible for the entire offense. Again, I have no dog in this fight because in 19 keeper/dynasty leagues I own JJ in one and Lamb in one but to think that after one year that JJ is the clear choice I think is a bit short sighted. You are right, JJ didn't start the first two games, but Lamb lost his starting QB and was losing targets to WRs that may not even be there in a year or two. Honestly, if people do feel this way about Lamb I really may try to buy low this off season lol.broncohead wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:17 pmDalton and Cousins are similar in talent at QB. Dak is far and away better than both imo. So going to Manion isn’t nearly as bad as going to Dalton.joeday wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:04 pmSo you don't think with Dak playing the whole year Lamb couldn't have gotten 16 more catches for 300ish more yards? You have to admit that losing Dak stunted Lamb's production. Just like if Cousins got hurt I am guessing I would say the same thing about JJ's production being stunted by Sean Mannion.Vcize wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:42 pm
True, but if you extrapolate Dak's numbers from those same 5 games he was on pace to throw for 7000 passing yards, which obviously was not going to actually happen.
So yes, in the 5 games where Lamb played in the greatest 5 game QB passing yards stretch in NFL history he matched the output of what Jefferson did in a normal NFL offense.
Even Dak at his best will never put up passing volume at that rate again.
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WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
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12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
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WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
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WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
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2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
You mean the guy that threw for 4300 yards and 35 TDs?ghetto pimp wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:14 am Let's extrapolate jj's numbers with a better qb than cousins
8th most passing yards and 6th most passing TDs in 2020? That guy? lol
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Good one; Cousins had a career year.ghetto pimp wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:14 am Let's extrapolate jj's numbers with a better qb than cousins
He was outstanding in almost every category. It looked liked a match made in heaven.
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
The Cousins hate is crazy. He's nothing flashy but the offense is fine with himjoeday wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:25 amYou mean the guy that threw for 4300 yards and 35 TDs?ghetto pimp wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:14 am Let's extrapolate jj's numbers with a better qb than cousins
8th most passing yards and 6th most passing TDs in 2020? That guy? lol
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Agreed. I am waiting for the "If Jefferson was on the Chiefs with Mahomes he would have had 175 catches for 3200 yards and 38 TDs!!!"Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:29 amThe Cousins hate is crazy. He's nothing flashy but the offense is fine with himjoeday wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:25 amYou mean the guy that threw for 4300 yards and 35 TDs?ghetto pimp wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:14 am Let's extrapolate jj's numbers with a better qb than cousins
8th most passing yards and 6th most passing TDs in 2020? That guy? lol
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Good god Man; Did that Bronco cause irreparable Brain Damage when it kicked you in the head.....
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Legit question, and maybe this is its own thread, but does anyone have any concern in the Vikings offense with Kubiak retiring? I have quite a few shares of Dalvin and it has legit made me nervous. Not panic sell nervous or anything, but just in general.
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
I think if you're holding Vikings WRs you shouldn't be worried about that. Vikings were 27th in pass attempts this season. If you're holding *E: Cook...
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Yeah, I love Dalvin's talent, but Kubiak has a way of making very good RBs great.
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
If you know Mike Zimmer, he'll only hire an offensive coordinator who agrees to establish a strong run game. They're not going to switch to a pass happy offense. I'm not changing my thoughts on Dalvin or the WRs for next year.
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
So cousins is a top QB in the NFL? Cousins isn’t on the same level as Dak and think he’s closer to Dalton talent than Dak. But continue your Lamb obsession in a JJ thread...
48 team, 4 copy league, QB, RB, WR, WR, TE, SF, 4 flex
QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
2021 Draft - 1.09, 3rd
QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
2021 Draft - 1.09, 3rd
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Seriously, Dalton was a passable starting QB in the NFL for years. You'd think he was some practice squad scrub. Yes Cousins had a very solid season (4,265/35/13), but Dalton has had seasons not too far removed from that (e.g. 2013 - 4,293/33/20 or 2015 - 16 game pace of 4000/31/9 (in 13 games played)). I'd rather have Cousins at QB, but the gap is not THAT big.broncohead wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:41 amSo cousins is a top QB in the NFL? Cousins isn’t on the same level as Dak and think he’s closer to Dalton talent than Dak. But continue your Lamb obsession in a JJ thread...
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
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Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
You said it better than me. Appreciate it.hoos89 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:57 amSeriously, Dalton was a passable starting QB in the NFL for years. You'd think he was some practice squad scrub. Yes Cousins had a very solid season (4,265/35/13), but Dalton has had seasons not too far removed from that (e.g. 2013 - 4,293/33/20 or 2015 - 16 game pace of 4000/31/9 (in 13 games played)). I'd rather have Cousins at QB, but the gap is not THAT big.broncohead wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:41 amSo cousins is a top QB in the NFL? Cousins isn’t on the same level as Dak and think he’s closer to Dalton talent than Dak. But continue your Lamb obsession in a JJ thread...
48 team, 4 copy league, QB, RB, WR, WR, TE, SF, 4 flex
QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
2021 Draft - 1.09, 3rd
QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
2021 Draft - 1.09, 3rd
Re: Justin Jefferson #1 Dynasty WR?
Nothing to do with either WR. My take is you're a party of 1 if you really think Dalton is remotely close to Cousins.broncohead wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:41 amSo cousins is a top QB in the NFL? Cousins isn’t on the same level as Dak and think he’s closer to Dalton talent than Dak. But continue your Lamb obsession in a JJ thread...
I get people love to hate on Cousins but he may be the most underrated QB in the league. Go back and study his numbers in Minnesota the last 3 years. His rating is over 100, his completion percentage is over 68%, He has had 91 TD's vs 29 int's and his Y/A is close to 8.
Those are elite numbers, Dalton is an old backup and his numbers the last 3 years are barely average.
My comment was tongue in cheek because your comment was way out in left field. No one really believes that and neither would you if you studied these two QB's.
I do like Dak better but Cousins is way closer to Dak than Dalton is to Cousins which was the point.
BTW pulling Dalton numbers 5-7 years ago doesn't strengthen the argument. Dalton is a backup QB and average these days. That should be obvious to everyone.
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