Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
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Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
Who do you got?
CEH
JK Dobbins
CEH
JK Dobbins
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WR - M Thomas, A Brown, DJ Chark, B Edwards, M Pittman, D Johnson, P Williams, D Samuel
TE - T Higbee, D Goedert, M Gesicki, J Akins
K - J Tucker
IDP - J Collins, E Kendricks, L David
Def - Denver, Minnesota
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QB - C Newton, J Winston, Tannehill
RB - T Gurley, M Sanders, J Conner, J McKinnon, M Brown, K Ballage, A Jones, S Michel, J Samuels, D Harris, R Penny
WR - O Beckham, D Hopkins, A Hurns, J Gordon, M Boykin, J Jeudy, D Johnson, H Ruggs, M Valdes-Scantling, P Williams
TE - N Fant, C Herndon, T, Hockenson
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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
I prefer Dobbins. He is a pure runner and I think will have to rely less on catching passes.
Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
I prefer Dobbins even though his situation is not ideal. Based on what we have seen CEH would not be hyped this much if he was on a different team.
10 team Dynasty Superflex, 1 PPR, 20 + 3 IR player roster
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, SFlex, Flex, DEF
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen
RB: Nick Chubb, J.K. Dobbins, Travis Etienne, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rachaad White, Khalil Herbert, Tank Bigsby, Jaylen Warren, Jerome Ford, Kyren Williams, Tank Bigsby
WR: Amari Cooper, CeeDee Lamb, Ja’Marr Chase, Calvin Ridley, Tank Dell
TE:T.J. Hockenson, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, SFlex, Flex, DEF
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen
RB: Nick Chubb, J.K. Dobbins, Travis Etienne, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rachaad White, Khalil Herbert, Tank Bigsby, Jaylen Warren, Jerome Ford, Kyren Williams, Tank Bigsby
WR: Amari Cooper, CeeDee Lamb, Ja’Marr Chase, Calvin Ridley, Tank Dell
TE:T.J. Hockenson, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson
Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
Love Dobbins talent more.
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QB - J. Herbert, A. O’Connell, J. Stidham
RB - Bij. Robinson, K. Herbert, J. McLaughlin, M. Carter,
K. Gainwell, E. Gray, J. Mason, Z. Evans, S. Tucker,
C. Brooks, D. McBride, J. Chestnut
WR - J. Chase, C. Lamb, T. Hill, B. Aiyuk, M. Evans,
C. Kirk, E. Moore, R. Bateman, A.T. Perry, T. Scott,
T. Tucker, J. Smith-Schuster
TE - J. Ferguson, D. Bellinger, J. Ruckert
LB- A. Singleton, R. Spillane, A. Anzalone, D. Campbell, K. Elliss, J. Gibbens, EJ Speed, K. Hudson, I. McDuffie,
A. Davis-Gaither
DB - A. Gilman, D. King
K - D. Carlson
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C. Brooks, D. McBride, J. Chestnut
WR - J. Chase, C. Lamb, T. Hill, B. Aiyuk, M. Evans,
C. Kirk, E. Moore, R. Bateman, A.T. Perry, T. Scott,
T. Tucker, J. Smith-Schuster
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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
Dobbins was my favorite rookie RB pre-draft, and even after yesterday's lackluster performance I still feel pretty strongly about this, tho Swift is making a strong case.
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Keep any number of players (0-15), lose same number of draft picks
2010, 2015, 2020 - , 2013 -
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, SF, FLEX, D/ST
QB: Dak, Watson
RB: Swift, Robinson Jr, Singletary, Brown, Hubbard, Zeus, Herbert
WR: Wilson, Olave, Pickens, Aiyuk
TE: Pitts, LaPorta
D/ST:
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QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, SF, FLEX, D/ST
QB: Dak, Watson
RB: Swift, Robinson Jr, Singletary, Brown, Hubbard, Zeus, Herbert
WR: Wilson, Olave, Pickens, Aiyuk
TE: Pitts, LaPorta
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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
I moved CEH for Dobbins (with some other pieces) just after the draft. No regrets, still like CEH but I feel Dobbins has a better long-term outlook.
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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
I think Dobbins is the better player.
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Nix
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Connor, Benson
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Woods
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Nix
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Connor, Benson
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Woods
Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
I’ll take CEH in full ppr. The ravens (Lamar) just do not throw to their Rbs. Dobbins only averages 2.5 receiving expected points per game ( rotoviz) and dobbins underperformed that this year. On the other hand CEH received the 3rd most receiving workload among rookies and is tied to the best offense/qb in the league for the next 3 years which should lead to more tds playing with Mahomes.
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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
Dobbins for me. His efficiency numbers are off the charts and he should only see his workload increase moving forward. Ingram is almost assuredly gone next year and Gus, being a RFA, could be gone as well (albeit less likely than Ingram). Even if it's only a slight increase in volume, his efficiency more than makes up for it. Dobbins' last 6 games put him at a 1300 yard pace for a full season, with high TD upside on only ~13 carries a game. Imagine if that bumps up to 16-20 carries a game or if he even gets marginal receiving work out of the backfield.
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12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-F-F-TE
QB-Herbert, Wentz
RB-Taylor, Dobbins, Edmonds, D. Williams, T. Williams, Hines, Penny, G. Edwards, J. Jackson, R. Freeman, Wilkins,
WR-Metcalf, JuJu, Chark, Gallup, Reagor, Mims, Peoples-Jones, T. Johnson, C. Johnson, Coutee
TE-Gesicki, Jonnu
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QB-QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-WR-TE-F-F
QB-Watson, Tannehill, K. Allen
RB-Hines, Vaughn, D. Williams, Mack, Burkhead, Guice, J. Hill, T. Williams, Hyde
WR-AJB, JuJu, Mims, Gallup, Campbell, T. Johnson, Bowden, Tate, Hurd, Merritt
TE-L. Thomas, OJ Howard, Oliver, Firkser, H. Bryant
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12 Team 0.5 PPR
QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-F-F-TE
QB-Herbert, Wentz
RB-Taylor, Dobbins, Edmonds, D. Williams, T. Williams, Hines, Penny, G. Edwards, J. Jackson, R. Freeman, Wilkins,
WR-Metcalf, JuJu, Chark, Gallup, Reagor, Mims, Peoples-Jones, T. Johnson, C. Johnson, Coutee
TE-Gesicki, Jonnu
2021 Picks-1.03, 2.03, 2.11, 2.14, 3.03, 3.08, 3.13, 4.03
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QB-QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-WR-TE-F-F
QB-Watson, Tannehill, K. Allen
RB-Hines, Vaughn, D. Williams, Mack, Burkhead, Guice, J. Hill, T. Williams, Hyde
WR-AJB, JuJu, Mims, Gallup, Campbell, T. Johnson, Bowden, Tate, Hurd, Merritt
TE-L. Thomas, OJ Howard, Oliver, Firkser, H. Bryant
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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
dobbins and not close.
Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
Dobbins is my huge regret this year. Wasn't able to get him anywhere. The only spots I could get him I went JT, but which I had some ownership of him, So yeah, Dobbins for me
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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
Dobbins. He was the higher rated prospect pre-NFL draft and CEH is a perfect example of why landing spot isn’t always a trump card. Not knocking CEH, just saying talent will create opportunities whether the initial situation is ideal or not. Damien Williams will likely come back to a decent size role, whereas Dobbins workload should continue to increase.
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2018, 2019
10 Team SF, PPR, Roster: 33+2 IR+2 Taxi
Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, SF, FLX (RB/WR), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, 2 IDP FLX
**IDP scoring is TKL heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no QBH or TFL.**
QB: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts
RB: Jahmyr Gibbs, D’Andre Swift, Jerome Ford, Khalil Herbert, Jaleel McLaughlin, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Isaiah Spiller, Chase Brown, Evan Hull (IR), Sean Tucker
WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown, DeVonta Smith, Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Josh Palmer, Demario Douglas, Alec Pierce, Michael Wilson, Jalin Hyatt, Kayshon Boutte (Taxi)
TE: Sam LaPorta, Trey McBride
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DL: Danielle Hunter, Aiden Hutchinson, Jaelan Phillips (IR)
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Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, SF, FLX (RB/WR), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, 2 IDP FLX
**IDP scoring is TKL heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no QBH or TFL.**
QB: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts
RB: Jahmyr Gibbs, D’Andre Swift, Jerome Ford, Khalil Herbert, Jaleel McLaughlin, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Isaiah Spiller, Chase Brown, Evan Hull (IR), Sean Tucker
WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown, DeVonta Smith, Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Josh Palmer, Demario Douglas, Alec Pierce, Michael Wilson, Jalin Hyatt, Kayshon Boutte (Taxi)
TE: Sam LaPorta, Trey McBride
K: Jake Elliott
DL: Danielle Hunter, Aiden Hutchinson, Jaelan Phillips (IR)
LB: Bobby Wagner, Jordyn Brooks, Logan Wilson, Ernest Jones
DB: Derwin James, Brian Branch
Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
Close. Dobbins appears to have the upper hand right now, but CEH will grow into his role more and more each year. While I don't see CEH as a workhorse back like Dobbins, he will be a major weapon in the passing game over time. KC's scheme is difficult and CEH still needs to work on his pass pro. Bottom line-Dobbins for next year but CEH for the long haul.
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Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
Dobbins pretty comfortably IMO
Re: Long term: CEH or JK Dobbins
No Damien williams, CEH led the rushing attack in the super bowl, and dobbins has as much competition as any starting running back in the league. The ravens literally tendered edwards and spoke highly of him. Not to mention the RB under center. Anyways....can’t wait to come back to this after 2021 season. Should be fun.krtbuckeye wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:20 pm Dobbins. He was the higher rated prospect pre-NFL draft and CEH is a perfect example of why landing spot isn’t always a trump card. Not knocking CEH, just saying talent will create opportunities whether the initial situation is ideal or not. Damien Williams will likely come back to a decent size role, whereas Dobbins workload should continue to increase.
10 team league....16 offensive keepers selected by April first. 28 man rosters during the season. 1 keeper defense and 1 keeper kicker.
.5 ppr, TE premium +.5, .2 return yards, big play bonuses, 4 team playoffs and 2 week super bowl (wk 15,16).
Start 1 QB 6 pt passing TD, 2 RBs, 3 WR, 1 flex, 1 TE.
QBs- Dak P
RBs- miles sanders, CEH, Najee Harris, Antonio gibson, James robinson, Boston Scott, qadree ollison, eno Benjamin, Sony michel, kerryon Johnson, gerrid Doaks, Larry rountree,
WRs- Brandon aiyuk, shenault, Adam thielen, Antonio brown, kadarius Toney, Jacobi Meyers, Dwayne eskridge, jalen Darden.
TEs- Goedert, fant, Hayden hurst, Dan Arnold, Donald parham
Kicker- koo
.5 ppr, TE premium +.5, .2 return yards, big play bonuses, 4 team playoffs and 2 week super bowl (wk 15,16).
Start 1 QB 6 pt passing TD, 2 RBs, 3 WR, 1 flex, 1 TE.
QBs- Dak P
RBs- miles sanders, CEH, Najee Harris, Antonio gibson, James robinson, Boston Scott, qadree ollison, eno Benjamin, Sony michel, kerryon Johnson, gerrid Doaks, Larry rountree,
WRs- Brandon aiyuk, shenault, Adam thielen, Antonio brown, kadarius Toney, Jacobi Meyers, Dwayne eskridge, jalen Darden.
TEs- Goedert, fant, Hayden hurst, Dan Arnold, Donald parham
Kicker- koo
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