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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby PTW32 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:00 pm

CEH looks good running the ball again tonight but until he gets involved in the pass game he would live in to his draft position.

He did have a play on the goaline that looked like it was designed for him. When he got taken away Mahomes just threw it away. I guess that is a good sign. I'd really love to see him get used over Williams in that 2 minute drill though
Team 1 10 Team PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 3Flex

QB: Feilds, Lance, Stafford
RB: Javonte, Charbonnet
WR: Godwin, Boyd, Aiyuk, Mingo, Downs
TE: Kincaid, Kraft, Schoonmaker

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QB: Lamar, Baker
RB: Barkley, Jonathan Taylor, Ekeler, Sanders, Dillon, Pierce
WR: Diggs, Hill, Lockett, Addison
TE: Andrews, Hurst, Logan Thomas

Team 3 12 Team PPR (keep 16)
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3Flex

QB: Kyler, Feilds
RB: CMC, Javonte, Dobbins, Dillo, Brian Robinson
WR: AJB, Godwin, DJ Moore, Keenan, Lamb, Burks, Toney
TE: Kittle, Hockenson

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:06 pm

PTW32 wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:00 pm CEH looks good running the ball again tonight but until he gets involved in the pass game he would live in to his draft position.

He did have a play on the goaline that looked like it was designed for him. When he got taken away Mahomes just threw it away. I guess that is a good sign. I'd really love to see him get used over Williams in that 2 minute drill though
They clearly just aren't ready to put him out there for extended pass protection work, which is going to be a requirement for the RB in the 2 minute drill. It's pretty common for teams to not be comfortable with rookie RBs in pass protection, especially this year with the limited preseason prep and coaching time. He'll be out there in the coming years when his pass protection is ready, zero reason for concern at this point.

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:57 pm

Holy crap, just looked at the lions stats from Sunday.. I think Swift is a vital cog in their machine... I hope Patricia has it cemented in his brain that Swift is something special that should be utilized often
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QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Patsfan86 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:27 pm

nathanq42 wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:57 pm Holy crap, just looked at the lions stats from Sunday.. I think Swift is a vital cog in their machine... I hope Patricia has it cemented in his brain that Swift is something special that should be utilized often
One of maybe 3 coaches i would have doubts about that he has finally gotten this through his head, he is a buffoon straight and simple. From a dynasty rebuilder perspective im ok with them taking it easy on swift during his rookie year just due to wear and tear for RBs and i want Swift around as long as possible but from a real football perspective it just made no sense not allowing Swift lead back duties earlier.

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Ice » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:21 am

Patsfan86 wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:27 pm
nathanq42 wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:57 pm Holy crap, just looked at the lions stats from Sunday.. I think Swift is a vital cog in their machine... I hope Patricia has it cemented in his brain that Swift is something special that should be utilized often
One of maybe 3 coaches i would have doubts about that he has finally gotten this through his head, he is a buffoon straight and simple. From a dynasty rebuilder perspective im ok with them taking it easy on swift during his rookie year just due to wear and tear for RBs and i want Swift around as long as possible but from a real football perspective it just made no sense not allowing Swift lead back duties earlier.
As he sits in Concussion Protocol.
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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Patsfan86 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:01 am

Ice wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:21 am
Patsfan86 wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:27 pm
nathanq42 wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:57 pm Holy crap, just looked at the lions stats from Sunday.. I think Swift is a vital cog in their machine... I hope Patricia has it cemented in his brain that Swift is something special that should be utilized often
One of maybe 3 coaches i would have doubts about that he has finally gotten this through his head, he is a buffoon straight and simple. From a dynasty rebuilder perspective im ok with them taking it easy on swift during his rookie year just due to wear and tear for RBs and i want Swift around as long as possible but from a real football perspective it just made no sense not allowing Swift lead back duties earlier.
As he sits in Concussion Protocol.
I know, what is the point of saying this?

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby cantguardjake » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:45 pm

Ice wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:42 am I would be concerned about any 2020 RB not named CEH or Swift going forward.

Minor concerns but still plenty of potential.

Robinson, Great now but talent void so future RBBC concerns.
A. Gibson, experience concerns but trending up.
Dobbins RBBC plus a running QB stealing touches
Taylor RBBC back with vision concerns.

The rest I have more concerns with ever being the man on their team due to multi level talent deficiencies or better RB's in the system.

Anyone still remember when some thought Jacobs wasn't really close to the pre-draft upper echelon group???
I got hounded down for suggesting I wouldn’t trade Miles Sanders for a top 5 pick in this draft back in December lol.

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Ice » Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:41 pm

Patsfan86 wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:01 am
Ice wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:21 am
Patsfan86 wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:27 pm

One of maybe 3 coaches i would have doubts about that he has finally gotten this through his head, he is a buffoon straight and simple. From a dynasty rebuilder perspective im ok with them taking it easy on swift during his rookie year just due to wear and tear for RBs and i want Swift around as long as possible but from a real football perspective it just made no sense not allowing Swift lead back duties earlier.
As he sits in Concussion Protocol.
I know, what is the point of saying this?
The actual point; In this season it seems to make a lot of sense not rushing out RB's to be a bell cow. Even though RB may be a bit easier to pick up than other positions they still need training camp to learn plays, especially on passing downs where line calls are even more difficult.

He will get his but acting like it makes no sense is a bit rich in this environment. He is obviously moving past AP but in his first real outing at 15 plus carries he gets hurt.

I get blaming the coach but the its more of a system that is very common throughout the league. I own him all over the place so hoping he develops into a 20 touch player.
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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Krypto_King » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:01 pm

Dobbins, Taylor, Swift all have breakout performances and then covid and concussion. This season is FUN. Now we await to see Bevell's preferences.

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Patsfan86 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:21 am

I would hope Bevell sees Swift is his best player at RB and continues to start him. While Patricia moving on from Detroit could be a great thing for swift i always remember that the grass isnt always greener. Whoever comes in obviously did not draft Swift, hopefully they love the talent too. Either way a lot of changes will be coming to detroit and it should be an interesting offseason.

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:40 am

Here's a stat I thought was amazing. That 61 yard Akers run yesterday was the longest run for any Rams RB since McVay became the head coach in 2017.

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby remedy29 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:25 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:40 am Here's a stat I thought was amazing. That 61 yard Akers run yesterday was the longest run for any Rams RB since McVay became the head coach in 2017.
I mentioned last year, that the Rams struggles on offense was mostly due to Gurley and his lack of explosive play. Sure, the injuries to the OL didn't help. What it certainly was not, was the league figuring out and shutting McVay's offense down. He is still a top Offensive coach.

Akers is going to thrive in the Rams offense. Perhaps he'll only be behind James Robinson for his career fantasy production amongst the 2020 rookies.

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby dvpkwys » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:09 am

Didn't see the game, but CEH little action?
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Adams/Godwin/Higgins/McLaurin (DJ Moore, Hopkins, Tillman)
Kelce (Hockenson)
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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby DLF3000 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:15 am

dvpkwys wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:09 am Didn't see the game, but CEH little action?
Yeah he didn't do much, probably because Mahomes and Hill were playing backyard ball against a bunch of 5-year old kids on defense. Why run the ball when you can embarrass an alleged NFL quality pass defense.

BOT, curious to see what McFarland does alongside Snell tomorrow night. The Broncos should have just forfeited and I'm starting to think the Ravens might be better off too, even if they are a far better team.
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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Sriracha » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:18 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:40 am Here's a stat I thought was amazing. That 61 yard Akers run yesterday was the longest run for any Rams RB since McVay became the head coach in 2017.
Akers is a highlight waiting to happen.

In the second half, Akers had 9 touches to a combined 2 for Henderson + Brown.

the stats on the season now:

Akers 4.8 ypc vs 4.3 ypc for Henderson/Brown.

He has their 2 longest runs of the season (61 and 47 yards)
His YAC at 2.3 leads the team (Henderson 2.0, Brown 1.5)
Is Breaking tackles at nearly double the rate of Henderson/Brown.

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