Taysom Hill time
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Very interesting decision by Payton. Guess he is sticking by his love of Taysom.
With that offense and his rushing, he's going to have a fantasy useable game or two. If the plan was for the saints to go to him in 2021, I don't really like using him now in a few spot starts though. Gives the league enough film to game plan against him next year.
Also, does this mean Winston still sucks?
With that offense and his rushing, he's going to have a fantasy useable game or two. If the plan was for the saints to go to him in 2021, I don't really like using him now in a few spot starts though. Gives the league enough film to game plan against him next year.
Also, does this mean Winston still sucks?
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RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
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WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
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RB |
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TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
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Re: Taysom Hill time
I guess they want to see what they have in him as a QB. Vastly overrated player, but more of an unknown commodity at QB.
We kind of know what Jameis is at this point, and I could still see New Orleans rolling out Winston next year potentially. I'm figuring they want to know what they have in Taysom.
We kind of know what Jameis is at this point, and I could still see New Orleans rolling out Winston next year potentially. I'm figuring they want to know what they have in Taysom.
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Half of me agrees with this, but considering how tight the NFC playoff race is, I think it's a little more than "they want to see what they have in Taysom". Who knows, maybe it says more about their confidence (or lack thereof) in Jameis.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:57 am I guess they want to see what they have in him as a QB. Vastly overrated player, but more of an unknown commodity at QB.
We kind of know what Jameis is at this point, and I could still see New Orleans rolling out Winston next year potentially. I'm figuring they want to know what they have in Taysom.
Or maybe Payton is just overthinking things and thinks this will be some devious smokescreen when Jameis comes in for the 2nd drive of the game.
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Re: Taysom Hill time
Wouldn't shock me at all.Life of Pablo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:13 amHalf of me agrees with this, but considering how tight the NFC playoff race is, I think it's a little more than "they want to see what they have in Taysom". Who knows, maybe it says more about their confidence (or lack thereof) in Jameis.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:57 am I guess they want to see what they have in him as a QB. Vastly overrated player, but more of an unknown commodity at QB.
We kind of know what Jameis is at this point, and I could still see New Orleans rolling out Winston next year potentially. I'm figuring they want to know what they have in Taysom.
Or maybe Payton is just overthinking things and thinks this will be some devious smokescreen when Jameis comes in for the 2nd drive of the game.
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QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
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RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
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QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
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2025 | 1stx3, 3rdx3
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QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10
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QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF
QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton
Re: Taysom Hill time
I think this means they plan to game play around running the ball, RPO's, play action and getting Kamara short passes in Brees absence. Honestly (other than RPO's) it's all Brees has been capable of and they're winning behind Kamara and good defense. Winston is completely different in that he will take shots downfield and we now is penchant for turnovers. Ball control is key and they have no need to push the issue if they control possession.
I also think that the starter title might be ceremonial in this game and that it's likely we see both throughout. Unless NO gets out to an early lead that could lead to more Hill.
I also think that the starter title might be ceremonial in this game and that it's likely we see both throughout. Unless NO gets out to an early lead that could lead to more Hill.
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Re: Taysom Hill time
I’ll believe it when I see it. His opportunities as a passer have been so limited that I’m skeptical that they are willing or able to do a full game out of read options and run game trickery. I think that odds are likely that Jameis has a role in the game. To what degree is TBD and could depend on the effectiveness that the Taysom style O shows early. It’s an interesting twist, that’s for sure. Doesn’t show favorably to Jameis though unless this is a smokescreen.
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Re: Taysom Hill time
I'm betting they go pretty heavy on the run this game. Will be great for Kamara if he plays. Hill's legs will prevent it from being a disaster (not that I'm saying it will be, I know nothing about him as a QB).Life of Pablo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:13 amHalf of me agrees with this, but considering how tight the NFC playoff race is, I think it's a little more than "they want to see what they have in Taysom". Who knows, maybe it says more about their confidence (or lack thereof) in Jameis.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:57 am I guess they want to see what they have in him as a QB. Vastly overrated player, but more of an unknown commodity at QB.
We kind of know what Jameis is at this point, and I could still see New Orleans rolling out Winston next year potentially. I'm figuring they want to know what they have in Taysom.
Or maybe Payton is just overthinking things and thinks this will be some devious smokescreen when Jameis comes in for the 2nd drive of the game.
Re: Taysom Hill time
Was also thinking Taysom gives them the best chance to win given, he's been there longer and knows the offense more, they scheme around the run and not turning the ball over.jcc6fd wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:25 am I think this means they plan to game play around running the ball, RPO's, play action and getting Kamara short passes in Brees absence. Honestly (other than RPO's) it's all Brees has been capable of and they're winning behind Kamara and good defense. Winston is completely different in that he will take shots downfield and we now is penchant for turnovers. Ball control is key and they have no need to push the issue if they control possession.
I also think that the starter title might be ceremonial in this game and that it's likely we see both throughout. Unless NO gets out to an early lead that could lead to more Hill.
Now if they get behind and have to throw, then maybe you get James in there to start slinging it.
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I'm not a Taysom Hill guy, and ultimately think this won't work, but if you have the roster space, I'd absolutely add him. You never know.
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Re: Taysom Hill time
Correct. ESPN has already said they are keeping him at QB/TE designation for this week, and a few other sites gave him a WR designation as well.
He may not have a huge game, but considering the barren wasteland that is tight ends at the moment that's a pretty big one week bonus I'd say.
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I feel like this is more of an indictment on Winston than it is on Hill. We know that Winston is a great fantasy but terrible NFL QB with his propensity for throwing picks. I assume that Peyton has been unable to get him to improve in this. Having an entire week to install a RPO offense likely makes Peyton feel more comfortable giving Hill the start, whereas Winston got the nod when they needed to fill in for Brees the 2nd half of this past week.
If Hill has a TE designation (or anything other than a WR designation) he should be started there. If he's unowned in SF leagues he should be owned there. If he is unowned in 1QB leagues he should be owned by someone streaming or with questionable QBs.
Who knows, if he does do well in Brees' abscence, and NO doesn't have the opportunity to bring in another quality QB, maybe hill gets the nod next year as well.
If Hill has a TE designation (or anything other than a WR designation) he should be started there. If he's unowned in SF leagues he should be owned there. If he is unowned in 1QB leagues he should be owned by someone streaming or with questionable QBs.
Who knows, if he does do well in Brees' abscence, and NO doesn't have the opportunity to bring in another quality QB, maybe hill gets the nod next year as well.
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I guess I have nothing meaningful to add here except 2 funny Taysom Hill Tweets. (The second was before they extended Kamara...at the time it was ridiculous how much more Hill was making than Kamara)
https://twitter.com/sharpfootball/statu ... 64?lang=en
https://twitter.com/kingjosiah54/status ... 12?lang=en
Ok...I'll admit it; not a Hill believer as a QB. Lol.
https://twitter.com/sharpfootball/statu ... 64?lang=en
https://twitter.com/kingjosiah54/status ... 12?lang=en
Ok...I'll admit it; not a Hill believer as a QB. Lol.
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Re: Taysom Hill time
Hill is now a QB1 for fantasy this week. We have seen time and time again what running QB's can do in fantasy. He is in a great offense vs an improving but weak defense.
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Re: Taysom Hill time
I am desparate in my redraft league for a win. Going back and forth between starting him or Burrow. I also have Kamara and MT, so would be an all in proposition.
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