Kittle / Andrews

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Kittle / Andrews

Postby My BallZach Ertz » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:34 am

What's the difference between the two right now? I am thinking about moving Kittle for Andrews with the hope I could get something decent thrown in the deal.
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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby XclickX » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:36 am

Mid second on top of Andrews maybe. He’s 3 years younger.

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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby never_punts » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:38 am

With the way Andrews has produced in the recent games, I think you can move Kittle for Andrews and a 2nd? maybe a late 1st? to an owner who is not in contention

Andrews was just traded in my league for Deebo and a 2nd, so value is down for some
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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:02 am

The difference is probably a 2nd. Andrews hasn't produced much the last few weeks but is a few years younger and in a good situation.
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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby abloom » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:00 am

Instead of moving Kittle for Andrews I would rather move him for Hock. You can probably get something a little bit more back, still have decent production, and higher upside. I'm thinking that Andrews will always be in the second teir of TEs, good phyiscally and in a good offense, but not a focus of his team's offense. If we look at the other TEs that do well, its high volume offenses that focus on the player. Kelce in KC, Kittle in SF, Waller in OAK/LV, Ertz (before he lost a step) in Phi, Gronk in NE. I think Hock in Det has a better chance of this happening than Andrews in BAL. I think Baltimore is going to be more run focused and Lamar is not as good as the other QBs as far as passing. Actually situationally I think Andrews's and Kittle's situations are fairly similar, but Kittle is just such a better tallent than Andrews.
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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby My BallZach Ertz » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:20 am

abloom wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:00 am
Instead of moving Kittle for Andrews I would rather move him for Hock. You can probably get something a little bit more back, still have decent production, and higher upside. I'm thinking that Andrews will always be in the second teir of TEs, good phyiscally and in a good offense, but not a focus of his team's offense. If we look at the other TEs that do well, its high volume offenses that focus on the player. Kelce in KC, Kittle in SF, Waller in OAK/LV, Ertz (before he lost a step) in Phi, Gronk in NE. I think Hock in Det has a better chance of this happening than Andrews in BAL. I think Baltimore is going to be more run focused and Lamar is not as good as the other QBs as far as passing. Actually situationally I think Andrews's and Kittle's situations are fairly similar, but Kittle is just such a better tallent than Andrews.
I've already tried moving Kittle for Hock with zero luck. I don't think the guy would do it 1 for 1.
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WR: Julio, T. Hill, Golladay, Ridley, Lamb, Scotty Miller, Gabriel Davis, Van Jefferson
TE: Kittle, Ebron, Rudolph, Sample
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WR: Diggs, Kirk, Hardman, Slayton, Agholor, Tre Smith, David Moore
TE: Kittle, Ertz, Gronk
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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby dblj1199 » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:26 am

My BallZach Ertz wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:20 am
abloom wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:00 am
Instead of moving Kittle for Andrews I would rather move him for Hock. You can probably get something a little bit more back, still have decent production, and higher upside. I'm thinking that Andrews will always be in the second teir of TEs, good phyiscally and in a good offense, but not a focus of his team's offense. If we look at the other TEs that do well, its high volume offenses that focus on the player. Kelce in KC, Kittle in SF, Waller in OAK/LV, Ertz (before he lost a step) in Phi, Gronk in NE. I think Hock in Det has a better chance of this happening than Andrews in BAL. I think Baltimore is going to be more run focused and Lamar is not as good as the other QBs as far as passing. Actually situationally I think Andrews's and Kittle's situations are fairly similar, but Kittle is just such a better tallent than Andrews.
I've already tried moving Kittle for Hock with zero luck. I don't think the guy would do it 1 for 1.
I can see that. Hock has played well the past few weeks, finally starting to live up to his draft status. I'm not high on Andrews, I think he is too td dependent and I don't think that LJax is a quality passer which hurts the receiving core there. Could you add Reed off waivers? What about Hurst? He has played better lately and could come cheaper.
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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby My BallZach Ertz » Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:30 am

dblj1199 wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:26 am
My BallZach Ertz wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:20 am
abloom wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:00 am
Instead of moving Kittle for Andrews I would rather move him for Hock. You can probably get something a little bit more back, still have decent production, and higher upside. I'm thinking that Andrews will always be in the second teir of TEs, good phyiscally and in a good offense, but not a focus of his team's offense. If we look at the other TEs that do well, its high volume offenses that focus on the player. Kelce in KC, Kittle in SF, Waller in OAK/LV, Ertz (before he lost a step) in Phi, Gronk in NE. I think Hock in Det has a better chance of this happening than Andrews in BAL. I think Baltimore is going to be more run focused and Lamar is not as good as the other QBs as far as passing. Actually situationally I think Andrews's and Kittle's situations are fairly similar, but Kittle is just such a better tallent than Andrews.
I've already tried moving Kittle for Hock with zero luck. I don't think the guy would do it 1 for 1.
I can see that. Hock has played well the past few weeks, finally starting to live up to his draft status. I'm not high on Andrews, I think he is too td dependent and I don't think that LJax is a quality passer which hurts the receiving core there. Could you add Reed off waivers? What about Hurst? He has played better lately and could come cheaper.
I got Dwelley off of waivers who I think will be a nice fill in because I don't think Reed will stay healthy.
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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:02 am

An early 2nd for me. The age gap helps on the Andrews side.

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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby abloom » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:02 am

My BallZach Ertz wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:20 am
abloom wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:00 am
Instead of moving Kittle for Andrews I would rather move him for Hock. You can probably get something a little bit more back, still have decent production, and higher upside. I'm thinking that Andrews will always be in the second teir of TEs, good phyiscally and in a good offense, but not a focus of his team's offense. If we look at the other TEs that do well, its high volume offenses that focus on the player. Kelce in KC, Kittle in SF, Waller in OAK/LV, Ertz (before he lost a step) in Phi, Gronk in NE. I think Hock in Det has a better chance of this happening than Andrews in BAL. I think Baltimore is going to be more run focused and Lamar is not as good as the other QBs as far as passing. Actually situationally I think Andrews's and Kittle's situations are fairly similar, but Kittle is just such a better tallent than Andrews.
I've already tried moving Kittle for Hock with zero luck. I don't think the guy would do it 1 for 1.
That's unfortunate. I'd probably just look to fill in TE somewhere else then.
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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby sloth8u » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:11 am

I would not trade kittle

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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby blacklab1010 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:05 pm

In my league kittle just went for andrews and gurley!! Our league starting requirements might have something to do with it??
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WRs-Julio Jones, Diontae Johnson, DeVante Parker, Will Fuller, Russell Gage, Keke Coutee, Emmanuel Sanders, Zach Pascal, Breshad Perriman, Travis Fulgham
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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby SkinZ187 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:20 pm

blacklab1010 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:05 pm
In my league kittle just went for andrews and gurley!! Our league starting requirements might have something to do with it??
i love this trade for the team acquiring kittle! especially in a must start 2 TE league...

and then when you factor in that the team trading away gurley still has Kamara, Chubb, Dobbins and CEH?!? slam dunk win!

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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby kbearit » Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:21 pm

Tried sending Andrews and an early 2nd for Kittle and had it insta-rejected. A first may have done it but felt like too much to me.
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Re: Kittle / Andrews

Postby realmacaroni » Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:23 pm

Stand pat. Andrews appears to have youth and health on his side
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