Team in sig. My schedule was real bad which made me have a current record of 2-6 (even tough im 2nd in Points scored). I don't see a chance of getting to the playoffs so I'm kind of rebuilding. I currently have an offer for Woods on the table.
I would give
Woods + 22 5th (maybe I can make it a 22 6th)
and I would get
22 1st (mid to late as he's a contender this year and probably next year too)
Does this make sense for me? Normally I wouldn't sell Woods but with no chance of competing this year Im think hard about it.
Aprreciate the input!
Update: Trade done - 1st or Woods?
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12-Team | 0.75 ppr | 22 man roster | QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, DST - Est. 2018
2018: 2nd place
2019: 3rd place
2021: 2nd place
Current Roster:
QB: Dak Prescott, Derek Carr
RB: CMC, Travis Etienne, Leonard Fournette, Elijah Mitchell, Rachaad White, Samaje Perine, Jaylen Warren, Darrell Henderson
WR: D.J. Moore, Amari Cooper, Deebo Samuel, Curtis Samuel, Christian Kirk, Elijah Moore, Skyy Moore, George Pickens,
TE: TJ Hockenson
2023: 1,2,3,4,5,6
2024: 1,2,2,3,4,5,6
2018: 2nd place
2019: 3rd place
2021: 2nd place
Current Roster:
QB: Dak Prescott, Derek Carr
RB: CMC, Travis Etienne, Leonard Fournette, Elijah Mitchell, Rachaad White, Samaje Perine, Jaylen Warren, Darrell Henderson
WR: D.J. Moore, Amari Cooper, Deebo Samuel, Curtis Samuel, Christian Kirk, Elijah Moore, Skyy Moore, George Pickens,
TE: TJ Hockenson
2023: 1,2,3,4,5,6
2024: 1,2,2,3,4,5,6
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Re: 1st or Woods?
Woods is always undervalued on the market and if you are heading for a multi year rebuild, I would take a 1st for him. As I mentioned, with him being undervalued on the market, this is top return.
Re: 1st or Woods?
I wish the first was this year but this isn't bad value for the most underrated WR every year in a rebuild.
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1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
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Re: 1st or Woods?
I already have his 1st for this year. I got it in a Henry for DJM deal before, so the 22 1st was a compromise.
But yes, he truly is undervalued year after year, but he also is going to be 29 next year so I want to get out while I can.
12-Team | 0.75 ppr | 22 man roster | QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, DST - Est. 2018
2018: 2nd place
2019: 3rd place
2021: 2nd place
Current Roster:
QB: Dak Prescott, Derek Carr
RB: CMC, Travis Etienne, Leonard Fournette, Elijah Mitchell, Rachaad White, Samaje Perine, Jaylen Warren, Darrell Henderson
WR: D.J. Moore, Amari Cooper, Deebo Samuel, Curtis Samuel, Christian Kirk, Elijah Moore, Skyy Moore, George Pickens,
TE: TJ Hockenson
2023: 1,2,3,4,5,6
2024: 1,2,2,3,4,5,6
2018: 2nd place
2019: 3rd place
2021: 2nd place
Current Roster:
QB: Dak Prescott, Derek Carr
RB: CMC, Travis Etienne, Leonard Fournette, Elijah Mitchell, Rachaad White, Samaje Perine, Jaylen Warren, Darrell Henderson
WR: D.J. Moore, Amari Cooper, Deebo Samuel, Curtis Samuel, Christian Kirk, Elijah Moore, Skyy Moore, George Pickens,
TE: TJ Hockenson
2023: 1,2,3,4,5,6
2024: 1,2,2,3,4,5,6
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Re: 1st or Woods?
2022 1st for me. Rebuild or no.
Team 1. 12 team. 1 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2017 2nd, 2018 2nd, 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2022 1st
QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5
Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5
QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5
Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5
Re: 1st or Woods?
As others have said, Woods is always undervalued, and for no good reason. With relatively deep starting requirements I'm not selling him for a 2022 1st, however. I think your team needs a 1 year retool rather than a full blown rebuild. Woods is still just 28, and he is locked into that offense for the next few seasons. You should be able to add a RB or 2 in the draft, or perhaps move those picks to address that need. A 2021 1st would move the needle enough for me to sell him though.
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WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert
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Re: 1st or Woods?
you are 2nd in points so your team can't be that bad. you'll have a shot next season, and woods will be just as good as he is now.
Re: 1st or Woods?
Your team still seems like it's not going to compete this year, so I'm fine with this move, even with the pick 2 years out. First Dak is out, which also kills Coopers value ( I feel your pain on that one ). I look to possibly lose as many games as possible this season to get a better pick in 2021 which will help in your rebuild. So when everyone is healthy and back next season you have extra ammo with the 1st to add to your roster or you simply add 2 more young players.
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10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
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2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
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WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
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Re: Update: Trade done - 1st or Woods?
Update: I did the trade but was able to get an additional 2nd in 22. So in total it ended up being Woods + 22 5th + 22 6th for 22 1st + 22 2nd
12-Team | 0.75 ppr | 22 man roster | QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, DST - Est. 2018
2018: 2nd place
2019: 3rd place
2021: 2nd place
Current Roster:
QB: Dak Prescott, Derek Carr
RB: CMC, Travis Etienne, Leonard Fournette, Elijah Mitchell, Rachaad White, Samaje Perine, Jaylen Warren, Darrell Henderson
WR: D.J. Moore, Amari Cooper, Deebo Samuel, Curtis Samuel, Christian Kirk, Elijah Moore, Skyy Moore, George Pickens,
TE: TJ Hockenson
2023: 1,2,3,4,5,6
2024: 1,2,2,3,4,5,6
2018: 2nd place
2019: 3rd place
2021: 2nd place
Current Roster:
QB: Dak Prescott, Derek Carr
RB: CMC, Travis Etienne, Leonard Fournette, Elijah Mitchell, Rachaad White, Samaje Perine, Jaylen Warren, Darrell Henderson
WR: D.J. Moore, Amari Cooper, Deebo Samuel, Curtis Samuel, Christian Kirk, Elijah Moore, Skyy Moore, George Pickens,
TE: TJ Hockenson
2023: 1,2,3,4,5,6
2024: 1,2,2,3,4,5,6
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