Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:46 am

Ryan Tannehill since taking over:

- #1 in QB rating
- #1 in Yards per Attempt
- #2 in PFF Passing Grade
- #6 in Avg Target Depth
- #9 in Adjusted completion rate
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby hoos89 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:27 am

And ESPN called him a "matchups conscious, back-end QB1" in a writeup yesterday. I guess a step up from always calling him a QB2, but what's a guy gotta do?
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Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby killer_of_giants » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:37 am

the dude is a baller. may not be top shelf, but makes it up in guts and determination.

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby Ice » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:00 am

killer_of_giants wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:37 am the dude is a baller. may not be top shelf, but makes it up in guts and determination.
Take out the "May not be Top shelf" part and I agree.

NFL wise he is Top Shelf.
Fantasy wise he looks to be a legit top 5-8 QB.
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby hoos89 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:09 am

Ice wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:00 am
killer_of_giants wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:37 am the dude is a baller. may not be top shelf, but makes it up in guts and determination.
Take out the "May not be Top shelf" part and I agree.

NFL wise he is Top Shelf.
Fantasy wise he looks to be a legit top 5-8 QB.
Seriously...if he isn't already in the MVP conversation, he probably should be. I know he's definitely behind Russ right now, but he's got to be top 5.
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Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:36 am

What he has done since becoming the starter is incredible on its own merit. Then you factor in that he was a salary dump and the Dolphins retained half of his salary last year. I just keep waiting for the bottom to fall out but I think it's time to just accept this version of Tanny until something changes. I would put him right behind Russ for MVP at this point in the season.

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:23 am

Well, I just keep getting this wrong.

No doubt that he looks the part of a QB1 and MVP Candidate. This offense is working perfectly for him and he's absolutely destroying defenses on play action with Henry on the field.

The crazy part is that Tannehill isn't even running much. Only 15 carries on the season. He's killing teams strictly from the pocket with good protection.

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby DLF3000 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:15 am

I still don't get it. Tannehill and the Titans offense really shouldn't be this good... but they are. :eh:
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby hoos89 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:17 am

DLF3000 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:15 am I still don't get it. Tannehill and the Titans offense really shouldn't be this good... but they are. :eh:
Defenses have to respect Henry, and AJB is an absolute stud. Plus Gase isn't the coach so Tannehill can be good.
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Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
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Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:33 am

I was wrong about Tannehill. It's great to see him get back on track after Gase torpedoed his development.
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:39 pm

Since taking over, Tannehill has scored < 17 fantasy points just twice.
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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:26 pm

Orenthal Shames wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:39 pm Since taking over, Tannehill has scored < 17 fantasy points just twice.
And here I am going on about Josh Allen being elite for fantasy. He hasn't hit 17 in 3 weeks now! (16 3 consecutive weeks lol). I'm not sure if Tannehill will ever get the respect he deserves. The Brandon Cooks of QB... One day in the future, when he falls off, someone will be like "aha! I knew he wasn't that good!"

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby mild » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:15 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:26 pm
Orenthal Shames wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:39 pm Since taking over, Tannehill has scored < 17 fantasy points just twice.
And here I am going on about Josh Allen being elite for fantasy. He hasn't hit 17 in 3 weeks now! (16 3 consecutive weeks lol). I'm not sure if Tannehill will ever get the respect he deserves. The Brandon Cooks of QB... One day in the future, when he falls off, someone will be like "aha! I knew he wasn't that good!"
It really might be a minute, though. He's throwing to a burgeoning top-5 dynasty receiver in AJ Brown, an emerging top 5 TE in Jonnu Smith, they have some of the best O-line talent in the league when healthy, and Derrick Henry is squarely in his prime and enabling this incredible efficiency by scaring every defense into an 8 man box.

The only variable I would be wary of that could change - is actually Arthur Smith, the OC. He is going to be a popular HC candidate this offseason... the league has taken note of what he's been putting down on film.

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:48 pm

mild wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:15 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:26 pm
Orenthal Shames wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:39 pm Since taking over, Tannehill has scored < 17 fantasy points just twice.
And here I am going on about Josh Allen being elite for fantasy. He hasn't hit 17 in 3 weeks now! (16 3 consecutive weeks lol). I'm not sure if Tannehill will ever get the respect he deserves. The Brandon Cooks of QB... One day in the future, when he falls off, someone will be like "aha! I knew he wasn't that good!"
It really might be a minute, though. He's throwing to a burgeoning top-5 dynasty receiver in AJ Brown, an emerging top 5 TE in Jonnu Smith, they have some of the best O-line talent in the league when healthy, and Derrick Henry is squarely in his prime and enabling this incredible efficiency by scaring every defense into an 8 man box.

The only variable I would be wary of that could change - is actually Arthur Smith, the OC. He is going to be a popular HC candidate this offseason... the league has taken note of what he's been putting down on film.
That's a fair assessment. I'll throw in Corey Davis as a very competent WR2... I wonder how long Henry can last. People worry about the touches, age, etc. But the dude is huge. He may lose some breakaway speed but I could see him being fantasy relevant for a while

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Re: Will Ryan Tannehill be a Starting NFL QB in 2020?

Postby mild » Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:12 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:48 pm That's a fair assessment. I'll throw in Corey Davis as a very competent WR2... I wonder how long Henry can last. People worry about the touches, age, etc. But the dude is huge. He may lose some breakaway speed but I could see him being fantasy relevant for a while
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Agree on Henry - he just needs to keep being a battering ram for a couple more years. It's not even the breakaway speed (though it's so awesome to see when he's in full flight) - it's that he sustains drives for them way over expectation.


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