2020 Rookie RB's

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby PTW32 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:10 am

jcc6fd wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:46 am
Jigga94 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:14 am
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McKinnon set to start, but he isn't a bell cow, so yeah. Neither is Hasty, though. I expect about 8-10 carries, maybe a few more. They may just ride him, knowing he isn't a long term guy, and save Jet. Jet will get the passing down work the next few week, so he's still the play in a lineup if you had both.
Jeff Wilson too... But he's questionable. Currently in a tough spot with Mostert out, Gaskin and JT on bye. Have Wilson in but debating on dropping him for Hasty, which is probably the smart move long term anyway
If I were betting I’d wager:
McKinnon is the main 3rd down/passing back with a few carries
Hasty is the preferred 1-2 down back with 8-15 touches dependent on game flow
Wilson, id active, is the preferred short yardage/GL back with a few additional carries.

I hope they give Hasty a real shot. He’s more exciting that Wilson and it’s my understanding that he is a capable pass catcher
How does Coleman play into this when he's back?
Team 1 10 Team PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 3Flex

QB: Lamar, Rodgers
RB: Dalvin, Conner, Gaskin, Lindsay, Mattison, Mckissic
WR: Godwin, Golladay, Boyd, John Brown, Aiyuk, Fulgham
TE: Kelce, Kittle, Tonyan, Logan Thomas

Team 2 10 Team PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3Flex
QB: Baker, Lock, Big Ben, Brady
RB: Barkley, CEH, Jonathan Taylor, Dobbins, Dion Lewis, Damian Williams, Mattison,
WR: Diggs, Arob, Cortland Sutton, Robert Woods, Lockett, Lamb, TreQuan Smith, Diontae, Randall Cobb, Dante Pettis, Andy Isabella
TE: Andrews, Hurst, Irv Smith Jr

Team 3 12 Team PPR (keep 16)
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3Flex, DL, LB, DB

QB: Goff, Stafford
RB: CMC, CEH, Mixon, Dobbins, Scott, Kerryon
WR: Godwin, DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Arob, Lamb, Keenan, Diontae, Cooks, Bryan Edwards
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Schultz
DL: JJ Watt
LB: Cunningham
DB: J. Johnson

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:44 am

PTW32 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:10 am
jcc6fd wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:46 am
Jigga94 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:14 am


Jeff Wilson too... But he's questionable. Currently in a tough spot with Mostert out, Gaskin and JT on bye. Have Wilson in but debating on dropping him for Hasty, which is probably the smart move long term anyway
If I were betting I’d wager:
McKinnon is the main 3rd down/passing back with a few carries
Hasty is the preferred 1-2 down back with 8-15 touches dependent on game flow
Wilson, id active, is the preferred short yardage/GL back with a few additional carries.

I hope they give Hasty a real shot. He’s more exciting that Wilson and it’s my understanding that he is a capable pass catcher
How does Coleman play into this when he's back?
I assume someone else will get hurt before that. That's just how this backfield works.
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - [b]14 Keepers[/b]
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones
RB: JT, Mostert (IR), Gaskin (IR), Dillon, Ingram, Mattison, Scott, McKissic
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston (IR), Parris (IR)
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.05-1.10, 2, 3

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - [b]20 Keepers[/b]
QB: Mahomes, Ryan, Mullens, Luton, Minshew (IR)
RB: Saquon (IR), Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt, Penny (IR)
WR: AJB, DJM, Chark, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, C. Davis, C. Samuel, Mooney, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: Andrews, Henry, Gesicki, Irv, Tonyan
2021: 1.03-1.06, 2, 2, 3, 3
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby jcc6fd » Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:52 pm

Jigga94 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:44 am
PTW32 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:10 am
jcc6fd wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:46 am


If I were betting I’d wager:
McKinnon is the main 3rd down/passing back with a few carries
Hasty is the preferred 1-2 down back with 8-15 touches dependent on game flow
Wilson, id active, is the preferred short yardage/GL back with a few additional carries.

I hope they give Hasty a real shot. He’s more exciting that Wilson and it’s my understanding that he is a capable pass catcher
How does Coleman play into this when he's back?
I assume someone else will get hurt before that. That's just how this backfield works.
Lol that’s probably the best prediction. One would think a healthy Coleman would get touches ahead of Wilson and Hasty on early downs assuming Hasty doesn’t force SF to play him more by completely balling out.
10 Team Half PPR Scoring: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1Flex DST K
QB: Mahomes, Super Cam, Jones
RB: Cook, Fournette, Gurley, Henderson, Lindsay, Moss, Gaskin, M. Davis, J. Williams, Booker
WR: Julio, A.J. Brown, K. Allen, Cooks, TY, Perriman
TE: Kelce, Cook, Gronk
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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:03 pm

jcc6fd wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:52 pm
Jigga94 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:44 am
PTW32 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:10 am


How does Coleman play into this when he's back?
I assume someone else will get hurt before that. That's just how this backfield works.
Lol that’s probably the best prediction. One would think a healthy Coleman would get touches ahead of Wilson and Hasty on early downs assuming Hasty doesn’t force SF to play him more by completely balling out.
Right I look at the pecking order as
Mostert
Mckinnon/Coleman
Wilson/Hasty

Hasty is the only one who could move up imo
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - [b]14 Keepers[/b]
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones
RB: JT, Mostert (IR), Gaskin (IR), Dillon, Ingram, Mattison, Scott, McKissic
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston (IR), Parris (IR)
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.05-1.10, 2, 3

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - [b]20 Keepers[/b]
QB: Mahomes, Ryan, Mullens, Luton, Minshew (IR)
RB: Saquon (IR), Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt, Penny (IR)
WR: AJB, DJM, Chark, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, C. Davis, C. Samuel, Mooney, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: Andrews, Henry, Gesicki, Irv, Tonyan
2021: 1.03-1.06, 2, 2, 3, 3
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:22 pm

I honestly forgot Coleman was on the 49ers

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby AussieMate » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:00 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:22 pm
I honestly forgot Coleman was on the 49ers
I honestly forgot Coleman was.

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Pullo Vision » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:48 am

Rookie struggles and not-
https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-footba ... -to-know-4

-Mark Ingram II has been tackled for a loss on just one of his 50 carries. That is the fourth-best rate among running backs with at least 20 carries. J.K. Dobbins has been tackled for a loss on 20% of his carries — the worst rate among backs with at least 20 carries.

Jonathan Taylor‘s 22.7 elusive rating is the second-lowest among players with at least 60 rushing attempts. In his last year of college, he was at 104.4 — the seventh-best in the draft class.
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A.J. Dillon has an elusive rating of 145.6 — the best for all running backs with at least 10 touches.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1 Q, 1R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 R/T, 1 Def

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Ray Finkle » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:27 am

Pullo Vision wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:48 am
Rookie struggles and not-
https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-footba ... -to-know-4

-Mark Ingram II has been tackled for a loss on just one of his 50 carries. That is the fourth-best rate among running backs with at least 20 carries. J.K. Dobbins has been tackled for a loss on 20% of his carries — the worst rate among backs with at least 20 carries.

Jonathan Taylor‘s 22.7 elusive rating is the second-lowest among players with at least 60 rushing attempts. In his last year of college, he was at 104.4 — the seventh-best in the draft class.
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A.J. Dillon has an elusive rating of 145.6 — the best for all running backs with at least 10 touches.
I liked this one from that article:

Houston Texans – Bradley Roby is the only cornerback to follow around the opponents' top receiver in every game this season. He has yet to allow more than 45 receiving yards in a game.

Something tells me that’s gonna end today as ARodge/Adams try to put on a show after last week’s beat down.

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Patsfan86 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:37 am

Some reports today that Swift will finally be getting more opportunities after last week. Hopefully Patricia doesnt screw this up. I can still see 10 percent snap share, 5 touches :) :) :)

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby CGW » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:41 am

Patsfan86 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:37 am
Some reports today that Swift will finally be getting more opportunities after last week. Hopefully Patricia doesnt screw this up. I can still see 10 percent snap share, 5 touches :) :) :)
I'm finally starting him, so he will get 2 carries for 4 yards in garbage time and AP will carry the ball 20 times.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Cousins, Darnold, Trubisky, Flacco, Walker
RB | CEH, Taylor, Gaskin, Singletary, Wilkins, Ahmed
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, Cooper, D. Johnson, Miller, G. Davis, Mooney, Pascal
TE | Andrews, Alie-Cox, Rodgers

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Minshew, Tagovailoa
RB | Montgomery, Singletary, Murray, R. Jones, Dobbins, Swift, Vaughn
WR | Godwin, AJ Brown, Lamb, M. Brown, D. Johnson, Slayton, Aiyuk, Reynolds, Fulgham, Peoples-Jones, Mooney
TE | Andrews, Henry, Herndon, Sample

12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Wilson, Darnold, Trubisky, Fromme, Smith, Flacco
RB | Guice, Hines, Penny, Henderson, Wilkins
WR | Evans, Golladay, Ridley, Kupp, D. Johnson, Pittman, Fulgham, Mooney, Ward, T. Smith, Zaccheus
TE | Ertz, Herndon, Sternberger, L. Thomas

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby dlf_mikeh » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:04 am

Patsfan86 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:37 am
Some reports today that Swift will finally be getting more opportunities after last week. Hopefully Patricia doesnt screw this up. I can still see 10 percent snap share, 5 touches :) :) :)
I'm forced to start him in a league. Had to activate him off of taxi and everything. I fear what you mention. :crazy:
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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby blemly » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:33 am

Detroit continues to boggle the mind when it comes to play calling. Swift started off hot and then Detroit stopped using him as frequently.

In other news, it wasn’t a tough opponent, but Antonio Gibson flashed yesterday in a workhorse role. No catches unfortunately, but he contributed to the lead and was in there most of the game salting it away after.
Team 1: 14-team PPR SF TE Prem:
QB: Jackson, Burrow
RB: Sanders, Guice, Dobbins
WR: DJM, Chark, Kupp, J. Jefferson, D-Jax
TE: Ebron, Warring

Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TE Prem:
QB: Wilson, Rivers, Foles, Mullens
RB: Mixon, Jacobs, Gibson, Hines, Guice
WR: DJM, Chark, Kupp, Landry, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku

Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Cam, Garopollo
RB: Kamara, Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt, Hill
WR: Hill, AJB, McLaurin, Hardman, Perriman, Mims, Shenault
TE: Gesicki, OJH

Team 4 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF TE Prem
QB: Watson, Stafford
RB: JT, Swift, Akers, Gibson
WR: Lamb, D. Johnson, Pittman, Mims, Shenault, Campbell, Shepard
TE: Knox, Jarwin, Trautman
2021: 1,1,2,2

Team 5 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lock
RB: Sanders, Dobbins, Guice, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Edwards, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Hamler
TE: Herndon, Gesicki
2021: 1,1,1,1, 2, 2

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Chwf3rd » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:46 am

Didn't watch the whole game so not sure how he looked but was really disappointed with AJ Dillon's stat line. Any thoughts @dif_mikeh? I know you were high on him.
Team 1 - 12 team PPR
QB: MRyan, PRivers
RB: AKamara, JMixon, DHenderson, LMcCoy, RArmstead, TPollard
WR: ACooper, SDiggs, CSamuel, AJGreen, SWatkins, AMiller, DiJohnson, ZPascal
TE: MAndrews, ISmith, KWarring
Record: 4-6
Picks: 1, 1, 1

Team 2 - 12 team, PPR, superflex
QB: MStafford, SDarnold, DJones, BRoethlisberger, ALuck
RB: DCook, PLindsay, TColeman, DSingletary, JWhite, DFreeman, CHyde, MWalton, RMostert, MGaskin, QOllison
WR: DAdams, MEvans, SDiggs, DSamuel, SWatkins, MHardman, GAllison
TE: JDoyle, TBurton, DKnox, DFells, KWarring
Record: 6-4
Picks: 1, 2, 2

Team 3 - 12 team, PPR, 2QB, 2TE
QB: DWatson, CWentz, MStafford, DJones, ALuck
RB: NChubb, DMontgomery, SMichel, KDrake, CHyde, TJohnson, MWalton, KBallage, CThompson, JDMcKissic, QOllison
WR: THill, DAdams, SDiggs, DSamuel, PCampbell, DiJohnson, JCrowder, JWashington, ALazard, ATate
TE: GKittle, HHenry, TJHock, KWarring
Record: 8-2
Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Patsfan86 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:46 am

blemly wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:33 am
Detroit continues to boggle the mind when it comes to play calling. Swift started off hot and then Detroit stopped using him as frequently.

In other news, it wasn’t a tough opponent, but Antonio Gibson flashed yesterday in a workhorse role. No catches unfortunately, but he contributed to the lead and was in there most of the game salting it away after.
As someone who has both i had a good and bad day. I just cant get over this with Swift, people are gonna just look at the box score and think its him, its NOT him. It is an incompetent coaching staff that for some reason wants to give AP more carries than swift. I am not up on offensive coordinators but is this a Bevell thing? Give Swift more carries and see what he can do. Its just so frustrating. Thank god im not competing this season or id be even more mad about this. Wish detroit lost that game so they could move on from Patricia.

As far as Gibson is concerned, i got him cheap, 2.10 pick back in May when Guice and Ap were still there and so far he seems like an absolute steal. He is learning the postion and unlike Patricia it really seems like Rivera wants him to be the guy eventually. Im much more concerned about Swift than i am gibson at this point even though i think Swift is more talented.

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Re: 2020 Rookie RB's

Postby Space Cowboy » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:12 pm

blemly wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:33 am
Detroit continues to boggle the mind when it comes to play calling. Swift started off hot and then Detroit stopped using him as frequently.

In other news, it wasn’t a tough opponent, but Antonio Gibson flashed yesterday in a workhorse role. No catches unfortunately, but he contributed to the lead and was in there most of the game salting it away after.
I think you answered your own question. I had noticed that too, I think they told him not to overthink things and different positions, focus on carrying the ball 20-25 times vs a bad run D and he responded nicely.


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