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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby jjleurquin » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:09 am

Jigga94 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:45 am
jjleurquin wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:40 am
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:51 am

Source?
I'm not re-researching for you. If you were following in the preseason that's what they said and you can look it up yourself if you don't believe me.
I didn't find anything. That's why I asked, but ok...
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Go on google and search 'james robinson the reason the jaguars released fournette' and look at the dates the articles came out. Look for dates from the last week before the season. You must not have searched too hard because I found a couple articles within 15 seconds.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:44 am

Jigga94 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:45 am
jjleurquin wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:40 am
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:51 am

Source?
I'm not re-researching for you. If you were following in the preseason that's what they said and you can look it up yourself if you don't believe me.
I didn't find anything. That's why I asked, but ok...
If you search for something along the lines of "why did the Jaguars cut Fournette" you'll find stuff that includes essentially "the Jaguars were trying to trade Fournette all offseason and couldn't get ANYTHING for him." It sounds like they were willing to let him go for any draft pick as early as this spring, so if that's true then it means that Robinson probably didn't play much (if any) of a role in the decision to cut Fournette.

There's also some stuff about how the Jaguars have essentially purged the entire AFC title game roster from 3 years ago.
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JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby jjleurquin » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:01 am

hoos89 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:44 am
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:45 am
jjleurquin wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:40 am

I'm not re-researching for you. If you were following in the preseason that's what they said and you can look it up yourself if you don't believe me.
I didn't find anything. That's why I asked, but ok...
If you search for something along the lines of "why did the Jaguars cut Fournette" you'll find stuff that includes essentially "the Jaguars were trying to trade Fournette all offseason and couldn't get ANYTHING for him." It sounds like they were willing to let him go for any draft pick as early as this spring, so if that's true then it means that Robinson probably didn't play much (if any) of a role in the decision to cut Fournette.

There's also some stuff about how the Jaguars have essentially purged the entire AFC title game roster from 3 years ago.
Well it could have just been coachspeak and a response to an uncomfortable reporter question- Why did you release fournette? And they said it was because of Robinson and Ozigbos camp. You can make of it what you will.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:03 am

Yeah I don't buy that response. If they were willing to sell him for a 6th rounder prior to camp that's not really much different from cutting him.
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JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
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2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby jjleurquin » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:13 am

hoos89 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:03 am Yeah I don't buy that response. If they were willing to sell him for a 6th rounder prior to camp that's not really much different from cutting him.
I get that. I always thought it was a possibility that he would get cut.

Back to the topic

I'm going to go with Chase Edmonds. I think he's a better back than Drake and should overtake him at some point this season so if you can get him for a 2nd I think he's worth it.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby murphysxm » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:17 am

I just bought Jonathan Taylor for my 2021 1st, which is likley going to be 1.12-1.14. I love reactionary owners
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Patsfan86 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:35 am

murphysxm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:17 am I just bought Jonathan Taylor for my 2021 1st, which is likley going to be 1.12-1.14. I love reactionary owners
Damn, thats a good one.

A trade went down in my league that i think many are going to say is a buy low on Barkley but i dont agree

It was Barkley for JT and Higbee

Im willing to be patient with JT and i think he could have around the same value as barkley eventually but i think many are going to disagree and say this was a steal for Barkley.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:19 am

murphysxm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:17 am I just bought Jonathan Taylor for my 2021 1st, which is likley going to be 1.12-1.14. I love reactionary owners
Wow that is nuts...he's RB16 right now! Even if we were seeing his actual ceiling right now, a 21 year old perennial mid-high RB2 is worth significantly more than a late first (or essentially an early 2nd in a 12 teamer).
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2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Mjvb5 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:38 am

Two buy low wrs
Slayton- just came off a murderers row of defenses to open the year and still hasn't been completely missing. Still looks legit imo
Preston Williams- historically acl injuries take up to a year to really get back from ala cooks sophomore year, I'm expecting improvement as we move away from it

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby jjleurquin » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:59 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:38 am Two buy low wrs
Slayton- just came off a murderers row of defenses to open the year and still hasn't been completely missing. Still looks legit imo
Preston Williams- historically acl injuries take up to a year to really get back from ala cooks sophomore year, I'm expecting improvement as we move away from it
I'm gonna go with another Miami WR- Isaiah Ford. It's looking like it's a very serious competition for the 2nd WR spot between Ford and Williams and Ford appears to have an edge right now, I think the perceived value is much lower on Ford than Williams though so Ford is the pick for me.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Blackout » Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:43 am

murphysxm wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:17 am I just bought Jonathan Taylor for my 2021 1st, which is likley going to be 1.12-1.14. I love reactionary owners
Awful in view of his age to give up on him for a late 1st :shock:

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:33 pm

jjleurquin wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:59 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:38 am Two buy low wrs
Slayton- just came off a murderers row of defenses to open the year and still hasn't been completely missing. Still looks legit imo
Preston Williams- historically acl injuries take up to a year to really get back from ala cooks sophomore year, I'm expecting improvement as we move away from it
I'm gonna go with another Miami WR- Isaiah Ford. It's looking like it's a very serious competition for the 2nd WR spot between Ford and Williams and Ford appears to have an edge right now, I think the perceived value is much lower on Ford than Williams though so Ford is the pick for me.
Just cut some roster fodder to pick Ford up for free in one league.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Vcize » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:24 am

MrUbuto wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:52 pm This robinson hype is getting a bit nuts. Im seeing people on reddit saying that there is no way they'd take swift for robinson, like a lot of people.

It's werk 5 and yes he's looked awesome but there is a very long lists of undrafted guys having success for a 3, 5, 10 or even entire an entire season then selling cars 12 months later.

You can't dismiss him either he is passing the eye test he looks explosive and makes the most out of every carry but draft pedigree matter. It really does. And not just because "oh he'll get more oppurtunities" I doubt the numbers back that myth up. Most coaches are happy to play the hot hand. The reason it matters is because despite the odd bust or round 6 guy who ends up having a long productive career it is NOT the norm, we just focus on them

These NFL scouts know what they're doing for the most part. They spend +10 hours a day watching film and know more about football than 99% of us combined.
I'm curious as to who makes up the very long list of undrafted guys that had success for 10 games or a full season and were out of the league 12 months later.

I am big on Swift and wouldn't even consider moving him for Robinson but dynasty rankings change wildly from year to year and we are already 35% into this year's fantasy regular season. Right now is honestly the best time to buy big movers because those moves are going to be magnified 10x once everyone sits down and starts drafting next offseason. The dynasty community is generally slow to make major moves until the offseason even when they are very predictable.

FWIW I would disagree with the last statement a bit. I worked for a major college organization (not NFL, but think one of the ones that sends a ton of guys to the NFL) and scouting is a very inexact science. Most scouts aren't doing much different than the twitter/message board guys that are very serious in breaking down film, they just took a path where they get paid for it.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Pullo Vision » Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:21 am

Vcize wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:24 amRight now is honestly the best time to buy big movers because those moves are going to be magnified 10x once everyone sits down and starts drafting next offseason. The dynasty community is generally slow to make major moves until the offseason even when they are very predictable.
Completely agree. Now is the time to strike to get guys like McLaurin and Jacobs from last year.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Orenthal Shames » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:16 pm

jjleurquin wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:59 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:38 am Two buy low wrs
Slayton- just came off a murderers row of defenses to open the year and still hasn't been completely missing. Still looks legit imo
Preston Williams- historically acl injuries take up to a year to really get back from ala cooks sophomore year, I'm expecting improvement as we move away from it
I'm gonna go with another Miami WR- Isaiah Ford. It's looking like it's a very serious competition for the 2nd WR spot between Ford and Williams and Ford appears to have an edge right now, I think the perceived value is much lower on Ford than Williams though so Ford is the pick for me.
I'm on board with this. I've had him stashed since the end of last season.
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