Week 4 Discussion
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Re: Week 4 Discussion
Didn't see much of the Cards game this week after watching the first 3. Just saw Drakes carries and the blocking was non existent. Maybe I'm in denial, but I'm convinced the problem is with the blocking and coaching, and that saying Edmonds would do any better is short sighted.
Here's the only clips I can find of week 4 Drake. Skip to 1:45.
https://youtu.be/WDcd3HyTTa0
Here's the only clips I can find of week 4 Drake. Skip to 1:45.
https://youtu.be/WDcd3HyTTa0
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Re: Week 4 Discussion
Kittle is #2 in the league in contested catches. He's only played a game and a half.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
Re: Week 4 Discussion
Hes also the reason the hail mary failed at the end of the game last night. He knocked it out of Deebo's hands. Instant reduction in fantasy value IMHO.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:05 am Kittle is #2 in the league in contested catches. He's only played a game and a half.
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Re: Week 4 Discussion
Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:
TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.
I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.
I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
Re: Week 4 Discussion
So he's being force fed, even in tight coverage, but still makes the play. The dude is a star.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:05 am Kittle is #2 in the league in contested catches. He's only played a game and a half.
Says a lot about SF's QBs & WRs too.
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Re: Week 4 Discussion
traded him and Jordan Howard back in 2019 for a pick that yielded sanders. Better a year too early than too late right?Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:
TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.
I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr
QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens
QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens
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Re: Week 4 Discussion
How much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:
TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.
I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
Re: Week 4 Discussion
The QB play is part of it, but he's not the same guy. He looked slow this week and has a bad drop every game it feels like. It is painful to watch as a Colts fanPullo Vision wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 amHow much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:
TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.
I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
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Re: Week 4 Discussion
Some unfortunate combination of both.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 amHow much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:
TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.
I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
Re: Week 4 Discussion
It's definitely both. He's lost his speed edge that he's had for his whole career and has had several concentration drops. On top of that, Rivers can't throw accurately down field more than 5 yards and Brissett was too conservative to throw downfield.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 amHow much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:
TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.
I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025 | 1stx3, 3rdx3
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QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10
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QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF
QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025 | 1stx3, 3rdx3
10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF
QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10
12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF
QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton
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Re: Week 4 Discussion
I moved Drake in the offseason for the 1.08 and everyone in my league told me I got robbed. I know it's only been four weeks but I'm feeling pretty good about that one.
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QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Sam Howell, Kyle Trask
RBs: Rhamondre Stevenson, Keaontay Ingram, Kyren Williams, Isaiah Spiller
WR/TEs: Jahan Dotson, Kyle Pitts, Diontae Johnson, Elijah Moore, Rashod Bateman, John Metchie
K: Carlson, Boswell
DST: Patriots, Steelers
Picks: 1.3, 1.5, 1.8, 1.9, 1.11, 2.4, 3.1
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12 Team Superflex. PPR. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1SFlex, 1K, 1Def
QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Howell, Brissett, Darnold
RBs: Kamara, Mattison, L. Murray, Fournette
WRs: Chase, Diontae Johnson, Toney, Dortch
TEs: Kelce, Dulcich, Juwan Johnson, Ertz
Ks: Tucker
DST: Colts, Jaguars
Picks: 1.8, 3.9
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QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Sam Howell, Kyle Trask
RBs: Rhamondre Stevenson, Keaontay Ingram, Kyren Williams, Isaiah Spiller
WR/TEs: Jahan Dotson, Kyle Pitts, Diontae Johnson, Elijah Moore, Rashod Bateman, John Metchie
K: Carlson, Boswell
DST: Patriots, Steelers
Picks: 1.3, 1.5, 1.8, 1.9, 1.11, 2.4, 3.1
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QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Howell, Brissett, Darnold
RBs: Kamara, Mattison, L. Murray, Fournette
WRs: Chase, Diontae Johnson, Toney, Dortch
TEs: Kelce, Dulcich, Juwan Johnson, Ertz
Ks: Tucker
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Re: Week 4 Discussion
Per Ryan McDowell:
Players to finish as top-12 scorers every week this season:
Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Alvin Kamara
Travis Kelce
Players to finish as top-12 scorers every week this season:
Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Alvin Kamara
Travis Kelce
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
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Re: Week 4 Discussion
Which shows just how bad the TE position is. 3 receptions for 70 yards shouldn't be top 12 but here we are.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:19 am Per Ryan McDowell:
Players to finish as top-12 scorers every week this season:
Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Alvin Kamara
Travis Kelce
Team 1
12 team. PPR. 6pts all TDs. Long TD bonus. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1K, 1DEF
QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Sam Howell, Kyle Trask
RBs: Rhamondre Stevenson, Keaontay Ingram, Kyren Williams, Isaiah Spiller
WR/TEs: Jahan Dotson, Kyle Pitts, Diontae Johnson, Elijah Moore, Rashod Bateman, John Metchie
K: Carlson, Boswell
DST: Patriots, Steelers
Picks: 1.3, 1.5, 1.8, 1.9, 1.11, 2.4, 3.1
2019 Champ
Team 2
12 Team Superflex. PPR. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1SFlex, 1K, 1Def
QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Howell, Brissett, Darnold
RBs: Kamara, Mattison, L. Murray, Fournette
WRs: Chase, Diontae Johnson, Toney, Dortch
TEs: Kelce, Dulcich, Juwan Johnson, Ertz
Ks: Tucker
DST: Colts, Jaguars
Picks: 1.8, 3.9
2022 Champ
12 team. PPR. 6pts all TDs. Long TD bonus. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1K, 1DEF
QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Sam Howell, Kyle Trask
RBs: Rhamondre Stevenson, Keaontay Ingram, Kyren Williams, Isaiah Spiller
WR/TEs: Jahan Dotson, Kyle Pitts, Diontae Johnson, Elijah Moore, Rashod Bateman, John Metchie
K: Carlson, Boswell
DST: Patriots, Steelers
Picks: 1.3, 1.5, 1.8, 1.9, 1.11, 2.4, 3.1
2019 Champ
Team 2
12 Team Superflex. PPR. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1SFlex, 1K, 1Def
QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Howell, Brissett, Darnold
RBs: Kamara, Mattison, L. Murray, Fournette
WRs: Chase, Diontae Johnson, Toney, Dortch
TEs: Kelce, Dulcich, Juwan Johnson, Ertz
Ks: Tucker
DST: Colts, Jaguars
Picks: 1.8, 3.9
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Re: Week 4 Discussion
Have to feel pretty good about Damien Harris. That was basically his debut nfl appearance last night.
Re: Week 4 Discussion
He ran pretty tough. Liked what I saw.MFundercover wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:28 pm Have to feel pretty good about Damien Harris. That was basically his debut nfl appearance last night.
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