Is that too much of an overreaction?
In my league Wagner had 13pts & 15pts, while Kiser had 17pts & 31pts.
Wagner vs DAL
Kiser @ BUF
I feel like Wagner should have scored a lot more in primetime against the Patriots, and DAL is probably going to throw a lot on SEA.
On the other hand, BUF will try to run a lot on LAR.
Start Kiser over Wagner week 3?!
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Start Kiser over Wagner week 3?!
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Re: Start Kiser over Wagner week 3?!
As a Kiser owner I’d roll with him
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Re: Start Kiser over Wagner week 3?!
yep
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Re: Start Kiser over Wagner week 3?!
I'm starting him as a flex this week. With Littleton gone Kiser's sucking up all his stats. He might be a top LB for the rest of the year.
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Re: Start Kiser over Wagner week 3?!
Kiser took over an optimal IDP position on the LAR defense. Anyone could play there and be a dominant fantasy producer. IDP often comes down to scheme importance, one of the reasons stalwart IDP guys move teams or a new HC/DC comes to town and they “suck” in a new scheme.
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Re: Start Kiser over Wagner week 3?!
The Golden Company wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:10 pmI'm starting him as a flex this week. With Littleton gone Kiser's sucking up all his stats. He might be a top LB for the rest of the year.
You guys are awesome! Thanks for the input! I put Kiser in over Wagner, and I'm feeling pretty good about it.TB3falcons wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:16 amKiser took over an optimal IDP position on the LAR defense. Anyone could play there and be a dominant fantasy producer. IDP often comes down to scheme importance, one of the reasons stalwart IDP guys move teams or a new HC/DC comes to town and they “suck” in a new scheme.
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Re: Start Kiser over Wagner week 3?!
never start kiser again against a shifty rb like singletary. he couldn't get his hands on him. i lost count of the times i saw kiser trying to tackle thin air.
buy singletary everywhere as a rb2.
buy singletary everywhere as a rb2.
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Re: Start Kiser over Wagner week 3?!
Yeah. It's too bad Allen is the RB1 in BUF while being the QB1.Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:24 amnever start kiser again against a shifty rb like singletary. he couldn't get his hands on him. i lost count of the times i saw kiser trying to tackle thin air.
buy singletary everywhere as a rb2.
Wagner still didn't outscore Kiser by that much, and that was about as bad as Kiser is going to play this year when healthy. So, I think everyone's thought process in here was still good. I'm going back to the well next week I'm sure.
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