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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby CGW » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:40 am

murphysxm wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:20 am Minshew has been somebody I have looked into in mutliple leagues. I believe he has locked in the job and he is their future. There are many people still nervous and willing to move him for less than I value him at.
Sneaky buy low in SF. Dude has improved significantly over the summer, especially throwing on the move. Last year his accuracy was poop out of the pocket. Last I checked he was lighting it up this year.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
| 1stx3, 3rdx3

10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby M-Dub » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:17 am

bjd5211 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:41 am
briank wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:39 am
M-Dub wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:11 pm I just recently bought low on Mixon for team 2. Sent DJ, Lockett, a late 1st and a late 3rd for Mixon and an early/mid 2nd. Feel pretty good about it.
So you sent DJ...

Diontae Johnson
David Johnson
DJ Moore
DJ Chark...
Duke Johnson duh
Heh. At least he’s actually on my team, which I clearly specified in my original post and have yet to update in my sig. If briank had checked it too, he might not be as confused. Haha.

For the record, it was, in fact, David Johnson, in case anyone else needs their hand held...
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby briank » Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:36 pm

M-Dub wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:17 am
bjd5211 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:41 am
briank wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:39 am

So you sent DJ...

Diontae Johnson
David Johnson
DJ Moore
DJ Chark...
Duke Johnson duh
Heh. At least he’s actually on my team, which I clearly specified in my original post and have yet to update in my sig. If briank had checked it too, he might not be as confused. Haha.

For the record, it was, in fact, David Johnson, in case anyone else needs their hand held...
That was the first and only other post you made in this thread guy.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby thebeast » Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:37 pm

CGW wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:08 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:19 am I'm trying my damndest to buy Dionte Johnson.
Good luck. I own him everywhere and need a significant overpay. Best route runner on the team. Best separator in the league. High volume, accurate QB. He will be a top 15 WR. Flag planted.
Last year I kept saying he is a better prospect than Juju and kept getting laughed at.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby CGW » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:47 pm

thebeast wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:37 pm
CGW wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:08 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:19 am I'm trying my damndest to buy Dionte Johnson.
Good luck. I own him everywhere and need a significant overpay. Best route runner on the team. Best separator in the league. High volume, accurate QB. He will be a top 15 WR. Flag planted.
Last year I kept saying he is a better prospect than Juju and kept getting laughed at.
If I was one laughing, I was secretly making sure he was on all my rosters.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
| 1stx3, 3rdx3

10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:30 pm

I had a buddy tell me last year diontae was the better wr but i ignored him. I had Juju and he was supposedly the offspring of randy moss and Jerry Rice. Wish i had bought diontae for a 1st instead of juju for 3 1sts.

Its my own fault for not being a real talent evaluator and just a ranking sheep. No one follows the herd as well as i do. :wall:
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby M-Dub » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 pm

briank wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:36 pm
M-Dub wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:17 am
bjd5211 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:41 am

Duke Johnson duh
Heh. At least he’s actually on my team, which I clearly specified in my original post and have yet to update in my sig. If briank had checked it too, he might not be as confused. Haha.

For the record, it was, in fact, David Johnson, in case anyone else needs their hand held...
That was the first and only other post you made in this thread guy.
Right, and it specifically referred to team 2 in my sig, which would’ve led any semi-competent forum member to infer that I was talking about David Johnson. How is this still confusing?
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Pac_Eddy » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:44 pm

M-Dub wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 pm Right, and it specifically referred to team 2 in my sig, which would’ve led any semi-competent forum member to infer that I was talking about David Johnson. How is this still confusing?
FYI - a lot of people have signatures turned off in an effort to keep these threads shorter and simpler.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby M-Dub » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:59 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:44 pm
M-Dub wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 pm Right, and it specifically referred to team 2 in my sig, which would’ve led any semi-competent forum member to infer that I was talking about David Johnson. How is this still confusing?
FYI - a lot of people have signatures turned off in an effort to keep these threads shorter and simpler.
I guess I didn’t realize that was an option. Does it just collapse sigs or completely remove them? That seems a little counterintuitive, since the whole point of putting our teams in our sigs is to make our own posts shorter and simpler.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Pac_Eddy » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:02 pm

M-Dub wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:59 pm
Pac_Eddy wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:44 pm
M-Dub wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 pm Right, and it specifically referred to team 2 in my sig, which would’ve led any semi-competent forum member to infer that I was talking about David Johnson. How is this still confusing?
FYI - a lot of people have signatures turned off in an effort to keep these threads shorter and simpler.
I guess I didn’t realize that was an option. Does it just collapse sigs or completely remove them? That seems a little counterintuitive, since the whole point of putting our teams in our sigs is to make our own posts shorter and simpler.
It removes them completely. When a post references their team in sig, I click on their user name to see the team.

I agree that teams in signatures makes composing a post faster, but scrolling through pages of unrelated information in a thread grew tiresome for me, particularly when on my phone.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby hoos89 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:07 pm

Anyone think DJ Chark is good buy low target?
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Bronco Billy » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:54 am

themburns wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:00 am Cam Akers. I don't think it's anything particularly about him necessarily, but I hate this organization and their decision making. You're always going to be guessing. It's no secret I love Henderson, but he'd be a sell too if I could get Akers value out of him. It feels like the D. Freeman/T. Coleman split from a few years back but Malcolm Brown is worlds above Jaquizz Rodgers at RB3.
I thinks it’s way too early to make any conclusions about the LAR backfield. Henderson looked like a complete waste of a pick last year because he could not force his way onto the field when it appeared obvious that McVay wanted to give Gurley some kind of assistance. Akers looks terrible as the most likely RB1, gets tweaked, and now Henderson suddenly emerges from his cocoon and turns into a bonafide 20 touch RB1 (for 2 games at least, but against decent run Ds). I’m wondering if Akers can get enough of the very limited regular season reps this year to pull off the same transformation, if he even has enough ability to pull it off - which is just as up in the air right now as Henderson was last year.

What jumped off the page for me in your post was the bolded. Brown has got to be one of the most overrated turds in FF over the past 3 years. He’s nothing less than sub-Mendoza line mediocre as a RB, and the reason coaches love him so much is that he apparently is a ST stud - which has huge value to NFL teams.

But look at the career numbers below and then tell me how much better Brown is than Rodgers:

Brown 5+ years in the NFL
233 rushes for 914 yds 3.9 ypa. 8 TDs
23 catches for 196 yds 8.5 ypc 1 TD
Total. 256 touches 1110 yds 9 TDs

Rodgers 8 years in the NFL
545 rushes for 2067 yds 3.8 ypa 9 TDs
216 catches for 1590 yds 7.4 ypc 5 TDs
Total 761 touches for 3657 yds 14 TDs

Brown is going to have to play about another 10-11 yrs to put up the career numbers that Rodgers did. He’s been a hair more efficient than Rodgers - barely - but hasn’t found a way to get anywhere near as meaningful of a workload.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby themburns » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:26 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:54 am
themburns wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:00 am Cam Akers. I don't think it's anything particularly about him necessarily, but I hate this organization and their decision making. You're always going to be guessing. It's no secret I love Henderson, but he'd be a sell too if I could get Akers value out of him. It feels like the D. Freeman/T. Coleman split from a few years back but Malcolm Brown is worlds above Jaquizz Rodgers at RB3.
I thinks it’s way too early to make any conclusions about the LAR backfield. Henderson looked like a complete waste of a pick last year because he could not force his way onto the field when it appeared obvious that McVay wanted to give Gurley some kind of assistance. Akers looks terrible as the most likely RB1, gets tweaked, and now Henderson suddenly emerges from his cocoon and turns into a bonafide 20 touch RB1 (for 2 games at least, but against decent run Ds). I’m wondering if Akers can get enough of the very limited regular season reps this year to pull off the same transformation, if he even has enough ability to pull it off - which is just as up in the air right now as Henderson was last year.

What jumped off the page for me in your post was the bolded. Brown has got to be one of the most overrated turds in FF over the past 3 years. He’s nothing less than sub-Mendoza line mediocre as a RB, and the reason coaches love him so much is that he apparently is a ST stud - which has huge value to NFL teams.

But look at the career numbers below and then tell me how much better Brown is than Rodgers:

Brown 5+ years in the NFL
233 rushes for 914 yds 3.9 ypa. 8 TDs
23 catches for 196 yds 8.5 ypc 1 TD
Total. 256 touches 1110 yds 9 TDs

Rodgers 8 years in the NFL
545 rushes for 2067 yds 3.8 ypa 9 TDs
216 catches for 1590 yds 7.4 ypc 5 TDs
Total 761 touches for 3657 yds 14 TDs

Brown is going to have to play about another 10-11 yrs to put up the career numbers that Rodgers did. He’s been a hair more efficient than Rodgers - barely - but hasn’t found a way to get anywhere near as meaningful of a workload.
Henderson got hurt in camp both years. They always liked what they saw out of him. In 2019, the Rams never recovered from the Patriots figuring out their offense in the previous Super Bowl. There were simply too many emergencies.

Akers could force a timeshare as the lead still, sure. When I made that post Thursday; the individual values were a lot further apart on the two assets. Even if you still think Akers will be the guy, there was profit to be had. If he comes back too soon, the numbers will suffer because of the immense pain of playing with a cracked rib, depressing his value. If he waits too long, Henderson gets a firm chance to take the backfield. I don't think Akers has a chance of becoming that 20+ carry back with Henderson in town.

As for Malcolm Brown, he was behind Todd Gurley most of his career. I won't blame him for not making more of a dent there, especially when Quizz was up against much weaker competition in ATL at a time where teams were running the ball more. I was going to argue for Brown's value as a pass protector, but Quizz was also great at it. Maybe that was a little strong on my part.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:08 pm

thebeast wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:37 pm
CGW wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:08 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:19 am I'm trying my damndest to buy Dionte Johnson.
Good luck. I own him everywhere and need a significant overpay. Best route runner on the team. Best separator in the league. High volume, accurate QB. He will be a top 15 WR. Flag planted.
Last year I kept saying he is a better prospect than Juju and kept getting laughed at.
I ended up making a deal for Diontae on Saturday for team 1 in sig. I moved Latavius Murray and 2021 2nd for him. His owner had just lost Barkley and McCaffrey and was looking for someone to plug-in at RB. Glad I sent the trade offer. I almost didn't.
14 Team, No-PPR, 20 Man Roster, TD Heavy, TD = 6, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan

14 Team, .5 PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby DynastyDrum30 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:56 pm

Shoreline Steamers wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:08 pm
thebeast wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:37 pm
CGW wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:08 am

Good luck. I own him everywhere and need a significant overpay. Best route runner on the team. Best separator in the league. High volume, accurate QB. He will be a top 15 WR. Flag planted.
Last year I kept saying he is a better prospect than Juju and kept getting laughed at.
I ended up making a deal for Diontae on Saturday for team 1 in sig. I moved Latavius Murray and 2021 2nd for him. His owner had just lost Barkley and McCaffrey and was looking for someone to plug-in at RB. Glad I sent the trade offer. I almost didn't.
Dang, I'm jealous you got him for that cheap. I just got him today for a 2022 1st and a 2021 2nd. Probably an overpay at this point, but I'm a believer. Dude looks legit.
10 man league; .5 PPR; .5 TE Premium
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/Flex/K/Team D) - 28 Man Rosters

Roster Highlights:

QB: Burrow, Purdy, Love

RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, Z. Charbonnet, AJ Dillon, Penny, D. Foreman, T Allgier, Z. White, E. Hull

WR: Chase, Lamb, Olave, T. Higgins, Diontae, Chark

TE: LaPorta, Pitts, Goedert, Schoonmaker

Picks:
2024: 4.06
2025: None


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