What is Saquons value like now?

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby Bot101 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:41 am

I had some more rejections today


Give Barkley + Hines
Get Jacobs

Owner countered with:
Give Barkley + Mixon
Get Jacobs + Bryce Love

just... no



Give Barkley + Pollard (to the Zeke owner)
Get Godwin + Gibson + Darnold




Yeah, he isnt going anywhere.

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby hoos89 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:25 pm

Barkley + Hines for Jacobs seems fair at this point, to be honest. Maybe would counter for a straight up swap if I was inclined to do it, but not really a bad offer.
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Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
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Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:29 pm

hoos89 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:25 pm Barkley + Hines for Jacobs seems fair at this point, to be honest. Maybe would counter for a straight up swap if I was inclined to do it, but not really a bad offer.
Not a bad offer, but is there incentive to accept it? If you're trying to tank then sure take on Bark. It's a situational basis to take him on. Trades can be deemed fair, but can also make no sense for someone to accept given their potential team.
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby The MAC Machine » Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:58 pm

MFundercover wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:15 am
2. At no point did I say "Saquon is undoubtedly #1". He did in fact finish at the #1 RB and #10 (13 games) in ppr. It wasn't my opinion, that's just what happened.
Yes this is right. But to highlight the difference between how the picture was painted in your post and how the picture was painted in my post I will quote my earlier post.
The Godwin Complex wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:01 pm
In 2018 he finished 2nd in points per game, 1st in Total points.
In 2019 he finished 7th in points per game, 9th in a Total points.
Spoiler alert, in 2018 Todd Gurley (372 points) only played 14 games and scored more points per game than Barkley (399 points). So if you are going to represent Barkley as a likely top 3 Candidate in 2019 if healthy, you should also probably admit that he wouldnt have been #1 in 2018 if Gurley was healthy. He was never truly heads and shoulders above everybody. People only believed he was heads and shoulders above everybody. That is my main point. I still personally believe he is a top 5-6 back come startup drafts next season.
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12 TEAM SUPERFLEX PPR
START: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 SUPERFLEX
ROSTER STARTERS
QB: S. Darnold (CAR)
RB: J. Jacobs (LV), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: Cooper (DAL), Ridley (ATL), M. Williams (LAC)
TE: R. Seals-Jones (WAS), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT), D. Harris (NE)
SUPERFLEX: M. Jones (NE)


BENCH:
QB: Rudolph (PIT), Book (NO), Minshew (PHL), Stidham (NE)
RB: Cord. Patterson (ATL), A. Collins (SEA), D. Dallas (SEA), K. Vaughn (TB), JJ Taylor (NE), S. Perine (CIN)
WR: M. Jones (JAX), Zaccheus (ATL), G. Olszewski (NE)
TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), D. Asiasi (NE)
IR: Tre' Q. Smith (NO), Tyrod Taylor (HOU), Chark Jr (JAX), R. Penny (SEA)

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby remedy29 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:03 pm

hoos89 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:48 am
hoos89 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:48 am Offered MT for him straight up in a rebuild. Probably would have tried to ask for an add if MT wasn't hurt right now.

Also for those naysaying Barkley in here: he was a league winner last year for many people (although I'll grant he probably cost some a playoff spot with weak performances in the non-playoff weeks, which were probably related to the high ankle sprain).
He accepted pretty quickly...may have been able to get an add but still happy with the deal.
League Winner? Isn't league Winner what Barkley is suppose to be? That's his value right, complete stud player.

I get he had a great fantasy playoff games last year, but I don't think he gets any added pat on the back for that. His 2019 regular fantasy season was sub par and his 2020 is a zero. What will his 2021 be? Top 3 RB, or top 15? That's a huge difference if your are paying top 3 prices.

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby dynastyninja » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:10 pm

remedy29 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:03 pm
hoos89 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:48 am
hoos89 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:48 am Offered MT for him straight up in a rebuild. Probably would have tried to ask for an add if MT wasn't hurt right now.

Also for those naysaying Barkley in here: he was a league winner last year for many people (although I'll grant he probably cost some a playoff spot with weak performances in the non-playoff weeks, which were probably related to the high ankle sprain).
He accepted pretty quickly...may have been able to get an add but still happy with the deal.
League Winner? Isn't league Winner what Barkley is suppose to be? That's his value right, complete stud player.

I get he had a great fantasy playoff games last year, but I don't think he gets any added pat on the back for that. His 2019 regular fantasy season was sub par and his 2020 is a zero. What will his 2021 be? Top 3 RB, or top 15? That's a huge difference if your are paying top 3 prices.
I'm sure he's referring to Saquon's 30 and 40 point games during weeks 15 & 16. Saquon did likely win a lot of fantasy championships for his owners.

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:14 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:10 pm
remedy29 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:03 pm
hoos89 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:48 am

He accepted pretty quickly...may have been able to get an add but still happy with the deal.
League Winner? Isn't league Winner what Barkley is suppose to be? That's his value right, complete stud player.

I get he had a great fantasy playoff games last year, but I don't think he gets any added pat on the back for that. His 2019 regular fantasy season was sub par and his 2020 is a zero. What will his 2021 be? Top 3 RB, or top 15? That's a huge difference if your are paying top 3 prices.
I'm sure he's referring to Saquon's 30 and 40 point games during weeks 15 & 16. Saquon did likely win a lot of fantasy championships for his owners.
Not unless they had CMC on their team as well
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby jenkins.math » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:18 pm

remedy29 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:03 pm
hoos89 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:48 am
hoos89 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:48 am Offered MT for him straight up in a rebuild. Probably would have tried to ask for an add if MT wasn't hurt right now.

Also for those naysaying Barkley in here: he was a league winner last year for many people (although I'll grant he probably cost some a playoff spot with weak performances in the non-playoff weeks, which were probably related to the high ankle sprain).
He accepted pretty quickly...may have been able to get an add but still happy with the deal.
League Winner? Isn't league Winner what Barkley is suppose to be? That's his value right, complete stud player.

I get he had a great fantasy playoff games last year, but I don't think he gets any added pat on the back for that. His 2019 regular fantasy season was sub par and his 2020 is a zero. What will his 2021 be? Top 3 RB, or top 15? That's a huge difference if your are paying top 3 prices.
Ummm, he absolutely gets a pat on the back because if you had Barkley for your fantasy playoffs last year you most likely won your league. Just like Gurley singlehandedly won fantasy championships a couple years before that with his insane playoff scoring. And David Johnson before that.

This thread seems to be turning into a safe place for some guys to just dump all over Saquon when they have never gotten the chance before. It's really strange.

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby murphysxm » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:35 pm

I was just offered James Robinson for him straight up. Accepted immediately......
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby dynastyninja » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:51 pm

jenkins.math wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:18 pm This thread seems to be turning into a safe place for some guys to just dump all over Saquon when they have never gotten the chance before. It's really strange.
I got the same vibe

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:52 pm

murphysxm wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:35 pm I was just offered James Robinson for him straight up. Accepted immediately......
I want proof.

And I also want in your league.
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:55 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:51 pm
jenkins.math wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:18 pm This thread seems to be turning into a safe place for some guys to just dump all over Saquon when they have never gotten the chance before. It's really strange.
I got the same vibe
Pretty much

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby murphysxm » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:03 pm

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:52 pm
murphysxm wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:35 pm I was just offered James Robinson for him straight up. Accepted immediately......
I want proof.

And I also want in your league.
sarcasm my friend, sarcasm. This thread is spiraling, just wanted to poke some fun at it
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby Ice » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:05 pm

murphysxm wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:35 pm I was just offered James Robinson for him straight up. Accepted immediately......
:D Classic! :D
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Re: What is Saquons value like now?

Postby hoos89 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:08 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:10 pm
remedy29 wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:03 pm
League Winner? Isn't league Winner what Barkley is suppose to be? That's his value right, complete stud player.

I get he had a great fantasy playoff games last year, but I don't think he gets any added pat on the back for that. His 2019 regular fantasy season was sub par and his 2020 is a zero. What will his 2021 be? Top 3 RB, or top 15? That's a huge difference if your are paying top 3 prices.
I'm sure he's referring to Saquon's 30 and 40 point games during weeks 15 & 16. Saquon did likely win a lot of fantasy championships for his owners.
He won me a title in redraft with those performances
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1


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