You can't base buy low status on preseason ranks. There is not a owner of any of those WRs or Cam that would sell low right now. Targeting people that are outperforming expectation is a odd approach to buy low....remedy29 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:03 pm To me, buy low discussions should be around players preceived ADP value, not stud players whose value has been lowered due to injury. So with that said;
RBs;
- Lev Bell, he has the respect and contract to demand touches when he returns. Everyone is down on the Jets offense, they can only go up when Lev Bell returns and the WRs return.
- Carson ADP per Mizelle is RB29, he routinely outperforms that. Seattle offense is scoring lots of points this year.
- David Johnson, ADP RB27, he looks good so far.
- Damian Harris, do you think he gets a legit shot this year when he returns?
WR;
Diontae Johnson, ADP WR40. He looks to be top 15 WR now. He is just getting warmed up with Big Ben.
- Shenault. He sure looks to have been worthy of a late
first rookie pick, not a late 2nd that people valued him as.
- Darrius Slayton, WE46. He most certainly will finish better than that.
- Robby Anderson WR66. Clearly poor ADP ranking on a quality WR.
- Allen Robinson. Chicago will be turning to Files, Robinson stats will likely increase.
QB;
- Cam Newton. The guy is going to finish top 5 in QBs and is neat as good as any QB this year.
Buy Low/Sell High
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I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
Re: Buy Low/Sell High
Don't know if it helps but early favourite was a sutton owner in my league approached me for DK (I'm rebuilding so sutton IR wouldn't hurt)
Offered sutton, mid 2nd, darnell mooney for DK. I said I'd need more and talks ended there
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High
For some players, I'd agree. What would you pay for Diontae Johnson?
DLF trade analyzer says he is worth less than a 1st. I say he is easily worth a 1st. If you can get him for any less, that is a buy low.
Besides CAM, have the other players clearly outperformed their preseason ADP? Robby Anderson has, but by his ADP indicates, people do not respect his talent and underrate him. If you believe in him, he can still be a buy low.
DLF trade analyzer says he is worth less than a 1st. I say he is easily worth a 1st. If you can get him for any less, that is a buy low.
Besides CAM, have the other players clearly outperformed their preseason ADP? Robby Anderson has, but by his ADP indicates, people do not respect his talent and underrate him. If you believe in him, he can still be a buy low.
Re: Buy Low/Sell High
Lowest value I've seen from a diontae owner was a mid first so far. Most wanted a first before the season started and have since bumped him to a pair of firsts or an early first.remedy29 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:20 pm For some players, I'd agree. What would you pay for Diontae Johnson?
DLF trade analyzer says he is worth less than a 1st. I say he is easily worth a 1st. If you can get him for any less, that is a buy low.
Besides CAM, have the other players clearly outperformed their preseason ADP? Robby Anderson has, but by his ADP indicates, people do not respect his talent and underrate him. If you believe in him, he can still be a buy low.
Robby same thing but they all want a 2nd for him.
Re: Buy Low/Sell High
Are you saying you traded DK and was on the receiving end for Sutton??? I hope not. Your comment "I'm rebuilding so Sutton IR didn't hurt" is misleading me.
Re: Buy Low/Sell High
I'd want a 1st plus for Diontae too if I owned him.Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:22 pmLowest value I've seen from a diontae owner was a mid first so far. Most wanted a first before the season started and have since bumped him to a pair of firsts or an early first.remedy29 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:20 pm For some players, I'd agree. What would you pay for Diontae Johnson?
DLF trade analyzer says he is worth less than a 1st. I say he is easily worth a 1st. If you can get him for any less, that is a buy low.
Besides CAM, have the other players clearly outperformed their preseason ADP? Robby Anderson has, but by his ADP indicates, people do not respect his talent and underrate him. If you believe in him, he can still be a buy low.
Robby same thing but they all want a 2nd for him.
For the other players, you need to identify lower valued players who will return a greater return for a buy low discussions.
Is Robby Anderson for a second a buy low? I say yes. And that's a trade that could be made.
Even Cam Newton, I would think most of his owners have moved on and have another QB they are rolling with. If so, CAM could potentially be had at a discount.
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If you're a contender AJG could be a great buy low.
He can probably be had for a low 2nd or 3rd even
He looked pretty good week 1 embarrassingly bad week 2. Burrow is the man and AJG will have some nice wr1 weeks from time to time
If he stays healthy he will definitely find his way into your starting line up the way the injuries to big names are piling up.
He can probably be had for a low 2nd or 3rd even
He looked pretty good week 1 embarrassingly bad week 2. Burrow is the man and AJG will have some nice wr1 weeks from time to time
If he stays healthy he will definitely find his way into your starting line up the way the injuries to big names are piling up.
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RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
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RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
7th pick in 2021
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted
Re: Buy Low/Sell High
Sorry I'll edit that. Didn't shoulda been wouldn't.remedy29 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:25 pmAre you saying you traded DK and was on the receiving end for Sutton??? I hope not. Your comment "I'm rebuilding so Sutton IR didn't hurt" is misleading me.
I said I needed more and talks ended at that.
Re: Buy Low/Sell High
Not straight up, but this happened today in 1 of my leagues:
AJ Brown
Marquise Brown
Sutton
Vaughn
Higgins
Mid/late 1st
3rd
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
Re: Buy Low/Sell High
I don't see most of these guys as buy low candidates honestly. These are guys who have recently gained value. I can see ARob and maybe Bell as a buy low, but I don't want anything to do with Bell. I'd buy high on Diontae.remedy29 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:03 pm To me, buy low discussions should be around players preceived ADP value, not stud players whose value has been lowered due to injury. So with that said;
RBs;
- Lev Bell, he has the respect and contract to demand touches when he returns. Everyone is down on the Jets offense, they can only go up when Lev Bell returns and the WRs return.
- Carson ADP per Mizelle is RB29, he routinely outperforms that. Seattle offense is scoring lots of points this year.
- David Johnson, ADP RB27, he looks good so far.
- Damian Harris, do you think he gets a legit shot this year when he returns?
WR;
Diontae Johnson, ADP WR40. He looks to be top 15 WR now. He is just getting warmed up with Big Ben.
- Shenault. He sure looks to have been worthy of a late
first rookie pick, not a late 2nd that people valued him as.
- Darrius Slayton, WE46. He most certainly will finish better than that.
- Robby Anderson WR66. Clearly poor ADP ranking on a quality WR.
- Allen Robinson. Chicago will be turning to Foles soon enough, Robinson stats will likely increase.
QB;
- Cam Newton. The guy is going to finish top 5 in QBs and is neat as good as any QB this year.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
Re: Buy Low/Sell High
I'd pay a late 1st.remedy29 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:20 pm For some players, I'd agree. What would you pay for Diontae Johnson?
DLF trade analyzer says he is worth less than a 1st. I say he is easily worth a 1st. If you can get him for any less, that is a buy low.
Besides CAM, have the other players clearly outperformed their preseason ADP? Robby Anderson has, but by his ADP indicates, people do not respect his talent and underrate him. If you believe in him, he can still be a buy low.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High
The targets are terrific, but he looks washed.MrUbuto wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:57 pm If you're a contender AJG could be a great buy low.
He can probably be had for a low 2nd or 3rd even
He looked pretty good week 1 embarrassingly bad week 2. Burrow is the man and AJG will have some nice wr1 weeks from time to time
If he stays healthy he will definitely find his way into your starting line up the way the injuries to big names are piling up.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
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I just recently bought low on Mixon for team 2. Sent DJ, Lockett, a late 1st and a late 3rd for Mixon and an early/mid 2nd. Feel pretty good about it.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
Re: Buy Low/Sell High
Bought both Diontae and Sutton in different rebuild leagues recently. Both non-TEP 12-team PPR SF leagues.
Gave: Andrews + 22 1st + 21 2nd
Got: Diontae + Gibson + Hurst + Shepard
Gave: Akers + Golladay + Ross
Got: Dobbins + Sutton + Mims
Gave: Andrews + 22 1st + 21 2nd
Got: Diontae + Gibson + Hurst + Shepard
Gave: Akers + Golladay + Ross
Got: Dobbins + Sutton + Mims
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
QB: Dak, Russ, Stafford, Geno, Dalton
RB: Harris, Gibson, Chubb, Cohen
WR: DK, Ridley, Kirk, Chark, Woods, C Samuel, Shepard, Reagor
TE: Fant, Knox
Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TEP:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Geno, Foles
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen, Pollard
WR: DJM, Cooper, Sutton, Deebo, R. Moore, ARSB, Eskridge, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Arnold
Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Winston, Cam
RB: Harris, Ekeler, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Woods, Chark, Lockett
TE: Gesicki, OJH, Firkser
Team 4: 12-team SF TEP Devy
QB: Wilson, Geno, Ryan, Cousins
RB: Zeke, Chubb, Sanders, Pollard, Hines, Cohen, Henderson
WR: Cooper, Godwin, Sutton, JuJu, Samuel, Fuller, Shepard, Campbell
TE: Fant, Gesicki, Ertz, Freiermuth
Devy: Boutte, Young, Slovis, Harris
Team 5: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lance, Jones, Cam
RB: Swift, Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Chase, Pittman, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Wallace
TE: Herndon, Gesicki, Freiermuth
Re: Buy Low/Sell High
That’s a good one
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