Does Anyone Still Believe: N'Keal Harry Edition
Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
Ah I thought you were referencing one of my tweets
Catch was unremarkable, but the release looked much improved
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Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
Apparently he's going to play big Slot since he can't win on the outside.
They've gotta be looking to acquire someone with the Sanu departure.
They've gotta be looking to acquire someone with the Sanu departure.
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Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
Maybe they're more confident in their young talent than everyone else is, wouldnt be surprised if Sanu was to free up space so they can make a push for clowney or somethingShankopotamus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:51 pm Apparently he's going to play big Slot since he can't win on the outside.
They've gotta be looking to acquire someone with the Sanu departure.
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Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
I think the opportunity is there and it's a bit early to make a call on a 2nd-year player. People seem to forget that the transition from college to pro takes time not to mention going from a college playbook to an NFL playbook. He also moved his world from the West Coast to the East and was drafted by the Patriots. BB does things a bit differently. You invested in the player. Cam should be good for him. I think his outcome can be just as much a breakout as a bust. I would give this player 3 years to find out.
Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
Cam isn't a precise passer and hasn't made many receivers outside of Steve Smith fantasy relevant
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Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
I traded him and Kareem Hunt away for Michael Gallup. I know its early in his career but he has had more bad than good and id rather have the proven guy.
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Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry - No.
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Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
Well... his best WRs have been Kelvin Benjamin (1000 yards as a rookie 8TDs) and Devin Funchess (840 yards 8TDs).
Ted Ginn went from total bust to valued rotational player with him, as well.
I wouldn't say Cam is a great passer.. but he's definitely not as bad as a lot of people want to make him out to be.
Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
From DLF's Best Dynasty Buy article:
I tend to agree. It's way too early to write off a high pick who battled injuries last year and plays on a team known for having one of the more complex offenses in the league.At an overall ADP of 81, Harry is a big buy for me. He was a beast at Arizona State and has all the physical tools to be successful, he just needs to get on the field and prove it. Harry is the future WR1 for the Patriots. – Dwight Peebles
Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
Led the team in targets and tied Edelman with the most receptions this week. Cam is a big upgrade over Brady for Harry, Brady relies a lot on chemistry and timing with his receivers which he just didn't have with Harry and didn't seem very interested in building it whereas Cam likes having those big guys to throw the ball up to and let them make a play. Cam made Kelvin Benjamin and Devin Funchess look pretty good, and I think even the biggest Harry critics will mostly agree he's better than those guys. A true WR1 season is probably not going to happen for Harry, but I think he can absolutely be a quality weekly starter with WR1 upside on any given week in fantasy.
Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
It's a mixed bag 2 games into the season...from a metrics standpoint, you like to see Harry getting targets, which Cam appears to have no problem providing.
HOWEVER, it's really bizarre to me that Harry can't break a tackle, if I recall on some of his college highlights, Harry was used in a similar fashion...LOS throws and let him do the rest. Yet, there's no twitch, no making people miss and going down on first contact. Not sure I get what is going on.
I didn't watch much football this weekend but tuned in for NEP/SEA and Harry looked like bleep all game (issues mentioned above), but on that final drive, Cam peppered him and Harry delivered.
One big negative, at least to me, is how Cam is in the RZ. Almost seems like Harry won't ever have the opportunity to win 1v1 contested balls in the endzone as long as Cam continues to do his do down there.
HOWEVER, it's really bizarre to me that Harry can't break a tackle, if I recall on some of his college highlights, Harry was used in a similar fashion...LOS throws and let him do the rest. Yet, there's no twitch, no making people miss and going down on first contact. Not sure I get what is going on.
I didn't watch much football this weekend but tuned in for NEP/SEA and Harry looked like bleep all game (issues mentioned above), but on that final drive, Cam peppered him and Harry delivered.
One big negative, at least to me, is how Cam is in the RZ. Almost seems like Harry won't ever have the opportunity to win 1v1 contested balls in the endzone as long as Cam continues to do his do down there.
Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
When they are right on the goalline ya Cam is going to run it, because he's amazing at it. Was listening to Nick Wright the other day and he brought up an impressive stat, for his career Newton has 19 rushing attempts from inside the 2 and 17 of those attempts have resulted in a TD. At that rate that is clearly the right play call, but the play before that final play of the game that got them to the 1 was a 12 yard pass to Harry, so it's not like Cam isn't targeting him or using Harry there, his legs are just the better option within 5 yards. Harry will get his RZ looks when they aren't right on the goalline.
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Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
"oh, which rookie TE is this?" - thought I had before realizing that it was Harry running with the ball. That's not a good sign in my book but the targets and catches are nice.
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You might be onto something - a position switch wouldn't be shocking, especially on the Pats. Too bad there's absolutely nobody on that offense to throw to at either WR or TE besides Edelman right now.Krypto_King wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:36 pm "oh, which rookie TE is this?" - thought I had before realizing that it was Harry running with the ball. That's not a good sign in my book but the targets and catches are nice.
It's somehow worse than last year, and might be the worst crop ever - and BB has fielded some ugly squads of receiving unknowns out there in the past that have worked out... somewhat. Maybe that happens here.
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Re: Does anyone still belive in N'Keal Harry
That was my thought process when they drafted him. He is essential an extremely athletic tight end. He will eventually be a serious TD monster and 1st machine. But it may not be this season.DLF3000 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:57 pmYou might be onto something - a position switch wouldn't be shocking, especially on the Pats. Too bad there's absolutely nobody on that offense to throw to at either WR or TE besides Edelman right now.Krypto_King wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:36 pm "oh, which rookie TE is this?" - thought I had before realizing that it was Harry running with the ball. That's not a good sign in my book but the targets and catches are nice.
It's somehow worse than last year, and might be the worst crop ever - and BB has fielded some ugly squads of receiving unknowns out there in the past that have worked out... somewhat. Maybe that happens here.
I still have faith in Harry as a high end wr2
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