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Questionable Trade?

Postby SoShady » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:22 am

Had this come across my commish desk late last night. What do you guys think of this?

Team A Trades

Zeke, Sutton and 2021 3rd

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Cohen, E Sanders, 2021 1st and 2021 2nd

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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:28 am

This trade is "So Shady". That's collusion, or one owner is completely incompetent, and will drag the league down. I am not for vetoes, but this needs to be addressed. Are either of the owners new? What is their track record. You need an explanation from Team A. Also, figure out who sent the offer. It's egregious. You definitely need to step in and investigate. What do your bylaws state about this type of thing?

This is the value of about, what 5 firsts for 1 and 3/4's or so?
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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby SoShady » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:41 am

Team A joined the league less than 24 hours ago. He was already in two other leagues I run on flea. But I did not invite him into this league. I don't like that they allow anyone to invite a new owner.

Team B was the proposer after team A said he would trade anyone but Barkley on entering the league. Team B is entering the second year in the league. While it's the 5th year for the league.

I put trades through when I see them. Very few times over the years I need to step in and cancel a trade. It normally causes a couple angry owners. So I wanted to make sure I wasn't being heavy-handed.

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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby BlackOmega » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:01 am

SoShady wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:41 am Team A joined the league less than 24 hours ago. He was already in two other leagues I run on flea. But I did not invite him into this league. I don't like that they allow anyone to invite a new owner.

Team B was the proposer after team A said he would trade anyone but Barkley on entering the league. Team B is entering the second year in the league. While it's the 5th year for the league.

I put trades through when I see them. Very few times over the years I need to step in and cancel a trade. It normally causes a couple angry owners. So I wanted to make sure I wasn't being heavy-handed.
As an aside in regards to invites on flea, you can change the settings to only allow the commish/co-commish to invite people so you can vet people before they join. In a case like this if you really feel it necessary to veto the trade {and I don't believe in vetoes myself}, you may want to simply tell owner A, "thanks but no thanks" and send him packing as he is just chum in the water for the sharks in your league

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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:09 am

Did team B invite team A?

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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby CGW » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:37 am

Brutal trade. I'm not for vetoing in dynasty, but this is bad. It's an obvious case of either collusion or an owner that has zero idea what they are doing and shouldn't have been added to the league.
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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby jenkins.math » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:24 am

CGW wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:37 am Brutal trade. I'm not for vetoing in dynasty, but this is bad. It's an obvious case of either collusion or an owner that has zero idea what they are doing and shouldn't have been added to the league.
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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:30 am

SoShady wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:41 am Team A joined the league less than 24 hours ago. He was already in two other leagues I run on flea. But I did not invite him into this league. I don't like that they allow anyone to invite a new owner.

Team B was the proposer after team A said he would trade anyone but Barkley on entering the league. Team B is entering the second year in the league. While it's the 5th year for the league.

I put trades through when I see them. Very few times over the years I need to step in and cancel a trade. It normally causes a couple angry owners. So I wanted to make sure I wasn't being heavy-handed.
Not at all. This is egregious. You as commish, don't control who enters the league?
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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:32 am

BlackOmega wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:01 am
SoShady wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:41 am Team A joined the league less than 24 hours ago. He was already in two other leagues I run on flea. But I did not invite him into this league. I don't like that they allow anyone to invite a new owner.

Team B was the proposer after team A said he would trade anyone but Barkley on entering the league. Team B is entering the second year in the league. While it's the 5th year for the league.

I put trades through when I see them. Very few times over the years I need to step in and cancel a trade. It normally causes a couple angry owners. So I wanted to make sure I wasn't being heavy-handed.
As an aside in regards to invites on flea, you can change the settings to only allow the commish/co-commish to invite people so you can vet people before they join. In a case like this if you really feel it necessary to veto the trade {and I don't believe in vetoes myself}, you may want to simply tell owner A, "thanks but no thanks" and send him packing as he is just chum in the water for the sharks in your league
If you haven't processed the trade, this is not a bad solution. I don't think that trade should pass, if you haven't processed it. Refund his money, change the setting, and find a new owner yourself.
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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby lawilt » Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:35 am

reject and remove the owner of team A

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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby The MAC Machine » Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:34 pm

I agree with reject, remove, and refund. Sometimes it’s worth doing the right thing to make a few mad than do the wrong thing and corrode the integrity of the league just to please people.
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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby saw061600 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:14 pm

That is really bad.
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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby moishetreats » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:55 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:28 am This trade is "So Shady". That's collusion, or one owner is completely incompetent, and will drag the league down. I am not for vetoes, but this needs to be addressed. Are either of the owners new? What is their track record. You need an explanation from Team A. Also, figure out who sent the offer. It's egregious. You definitely need to step in and investigate. What do your bylaws state about this type of thing?

This is the value of about, what 5 firsts for 1 and 3/4's or so?
Great response.

And great question about whether Team B invited Team A.
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Re: Questionable Trade?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:10 pm

moishetreats wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:55 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:28 am This trade is "So Shady". That's collusion, or one owner is completely incompetent, and will drag the league down. I am not for vetoes, but this needs to be addressed. Are either of the owners new? What is their track record. You need an explanation from Team A. Also, figure out who sent the offer. It's egregious. You definitely need to step in and investigate. What do your bylaws state about this type of thing?

This is the value of about, what 5 firsts for 1 and 3/4's or so?
Great response.

And great question about whether Team B invited Team A.
I believe that was already addressed, or I would have mentioned it, for sure.
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