Taylor or CEH in non ppr

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Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby saw061600 » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:27 pm

This league (team 1) refuses to draft early so here we are. Draft is Tuesday, NONPPR scoring, and after taking a bit of time away after trading for pick 1, I'm debating CEH or Taylor. I was all in on JT but now that I've got the pick, having 2nd thoughts.
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10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
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Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

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Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
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Re: Taylor or CEH in standard

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:34 pm

Taylor for me.

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Re: Taylor or CEH in standard

Postby repkllrs » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:36 pm

Me too
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Re: Taylor or CEH in standard

Postby Needalife » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:36 pm

Seems like a lot of sites are calling ppr "standard" these days, but I'll assume you mean no reception points. I'd take Taylor in that format over CEH. Both will be good but slight edge to Taylor who excels more in between the tackles.
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Re: Taylor or CEH in standard

Postby StripesOfKC » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:38 pm

Taylor for sure

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Re: Taylor or CEH in standard

Postby saw061600 » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:38 pm

Needalife wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:36 pm Seems like a lot of sites are calling ppr "standard" these days, but I'll assume you mean no reception points. I'd take Taylor in that format over CEH. Both will be good but slight edge to Taylor who excels more in between the tackles.
Changed to "NONPPR" to make it more clear, thanks.
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby Edgy68 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:58 pm

I had the 1.01 in a PPR and went CEH no question. In non, I think Taylor gets the edge.
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby Tobin » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:03 pm

I would go Taylor in Standard league....CEH in PPR
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby PBFalcon » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:18 pm

Clearly I am in the minority here, but I wouldn't be able to pass on the Chiefs RB for the next 4-5 years.
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:24 pm

I'd probably take CEH regardless. If JT doesn't catch a lot of passes then he better get 300+ carries and double digit TDs. Otherwise he is Joe Mixon and will live in that low RB1 range. Nick Chubb was 50 yards away from the rushing title and ended at RB6 because he didn't get a ton of receiving work and only scored 8 TDs. It's just a lower ceiling if you don't get a lot of passing game work.

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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby M-Dub » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:16 pm

I would take JT regardless of format. He is the far superior talent. The only reason CEH is even in the discussion is due to landing spot, but JT didn’t exactly land in a bad situation himself.
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby Pac_Eddy » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:50 pm

I like CEH regardless of PPR or non. But go with your gut.
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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby StripesOfKC » Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:52 pm

jenkins.math wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:24 pm I'd probably take CEH regardless. If JT doesn't catch a lot of passes then he better get 300+ carries and double digit TDs. Otherwise he is Joe Mixon and will live in that low RB1 range. Nick Chubb was 50 yards away from the rushing title and ended at RB6 because he didn't get a ton of receiving work and only scored 8 TDs. It's just a lower ceiling if you don't get a lot of passing game work.
This is non PPR. Passing game work isn't really all that relevant (though I do believe Taylor will get some)

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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby Csl312 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:36 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:52 pm This is non PPR. Passing game work isn't really all that relevant (though I do believe Taylor will get some)
Not exactly. Unless your league doesn't give RBs points for receiving yards...

You have to consider who is going to have more yards and TDs regardless of the source of the yards. I think it's pretty even - JT being the better prospect but KC is going to move the rock. I'd say go with your gut, and feel comfortable that at this point they appear to have fairly even future production. One of them will almost certainly pass the other, pretty hard to say who wins right now though.

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Re: Taylor or CEH in non ppr

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:40 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:52 pm
jenkins.math wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:24 pm I'd probably take CEH regardless. If JT doesn't catch a lot of passes then he better get 300+ carries and double digit TDs. Otherwise he is Joe Mixon and will live in that low RB1 range. Nick Chubb was 50 yards away from the rushing title and ended at RB6 because he didn't get a ton of receiving work and only scored 8 TDs. It's just a lower ceiling if you don't get a lot of passing game work.
This is non PPR. Passing game work isn't really all that relevant (though I do believe Taylor will get some)
I'm well aware it's non-PPR, which is why all the data you're responding to is non-PPR from 2019. Passing work very much matters because it tends to be a more efficient way to get yards.


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