Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
I think it shows he wasnt as good as they hoped
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
is someone going to post this in the bad offers thread?
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
It's not a 2020 3rd. It's bowden. Value of picks immediately change once a player is draftedKurt G.O.A.T. wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:36 pm is someone going to post this in the bad offers thread?
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
That’s the rationalization people utilize when they fear loss which often leads us to greater loss. Knowing that is important.abloom wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:40 pmIt's not a 2020 3rd. It's bowden. Value of picks immediately change once a player is draftedKurt G.O.A.T. wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:36 pm is someone going to post this in the bad offers thread?
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
relax, it was supposed to be a joke.abloom wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:40 pmIt's not a 2020 3rd. It's bowden. Value of picks immediately change once a player is draftedKurt G.O.A.T. wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:36 pm is someone going to post this in the bad offers thread?
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
No Collusion!Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:20 pmrelax, it was supposed to be a joke.abloom wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:40 pmIt's not a 2020 3rd. It's bowden. Value of picks immediately change once a player is draftedKurt G.O.A.T. wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:36 pm is someone going to post this in the bad offers thread?
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
The Athletic reported that the Raiders were concerned about him getting distracted in Vegas and other off field concerns. The police raided his grandmother's home in June, which Bowden was present at the time, no arrests but apparently they confiscated a bunch of assault rifles.
Now if Vegas was too much for Bowden then Miami is pretty concerning as a destination.
Now if Vegas was too much for Bowden then Miami is pretty concerning as a destination.
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
Now there’s a glass half full kind of guy.thebeast wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:05 pmSo, I think this is terrible for Bowden who I own in 1 league. But I think this is great for the Raiders. Learning to move on quickly and take a sunk cost is part of being successful in my opinion. No one makes the right decision 100% of the time, but the earlier you can admit that and move on (and in some cases recoup value) the better you are.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:53 pm Can we talk about how astronomically dumb this move is?
They drafted Bowden in the 3rd. Reportedly he was awful in camp and now they trade a 6th round pick with him for a 4th.
Sure, credit for admitting a sunk cost and getting out while you can, but bleep woof.
I think what makes teams successful is not making a mistake of that magnitude in the first place. The Raiders clearly didn’t do their due diligence on Bowden and instead chose him as a shiny toy. Sure, guys bust at the next level. They just can’t make the transition. But this was a huge reach with no fit on their offense.
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
When your a 3rd round pick in April, then your used as a throw in to improve a 6th round pick to a 5th round pick something went very wrong in those 4 months
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
i own him in one league and i can see character issues being a problem. Also read something that said he was more interested in buying cars than he was football. I believe the Raiders made a mistake in trying to convert him to Rb or "joker". His true position is WR and thats where MIA will put him. Bowden has a better chance to have success as a slot WR in the nfl.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:48 am The Athletic reported that the Raiders were concerned about him getting distracted in Vegas and other off field concerns. The police raided his grandmother's home in June, which Bowden was present at the time, no arrests but apparently they confiscated a bunch of assault rifles.
Now if Vegas was too much for Bowden then Miami is pretty concerning as a destination.
Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
Kirk Merritt reserves that last wr role. At least he does in my heartstraightcashhomie831 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:43 ami own him in one league and i can see character issues being a problem. Also read something that said he was more interested in buying cars than he was football. I believe the Raiders made a mistake in trying to convert him to Rb or "joker". His true position is WR and thats where MIA will put him. Bowden has a better chance to have success as a slot WR in the nfl.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:48 am The Athletic reported that the Raiders were concerned about him getting distracted in Vegas and other off field concerns. The police raided his grandmother's home in June, which Bowden was present at the time, no arrests but apparently they confiscated a bunch of assault rifles.
Now if Vegas was too much for Bowden then Miami is pretty concerning as a destination.
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
Reports are they're playing him at WR. However, couldn't Oakland have realized this mid camp and pivoted? He must also have sucked at WR. I know Zay Jones/Nelson Agholor is formidable, but come on. Probably not enough time to convert positions if he was starting as a RB. I'm going to avoid him like the plague either way.
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
TheNuts wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:29 amKirk Merritt reserves that last wr role. At least he does in my heartstraightcashhomie831 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:43 ami own him in one league and i can see character issues being a problem. Also read something that said he was more interested in buying cars than he was football. I believe the Raiders made a mistake in trying to convert him to Rb or "joker". His true position is WR and thats where MIA will put him. Bowden has a better chance to have success as a slot WR in the nfl.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:48 am The Athletic reported that the Raiders were concerned about him getting distracted in Vegas and other off field concerns. The police raided his grandmother's home in June, which Bowden was present at the time, no arrests but apparently they confiscated a bunch of assault rifles.
Now if Vegas was too much for Bowden then Miami is pretty concerning as a destination.
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
Some stuff coming out about Bowden posting on social media (some that he subsequently deleted), about the team. Some attitude issues etc. I think they got his character wrong in the pre draft process. Gruden and Mayock aren't going to sit around and have a diva style rookie pouting on social media.
There was talk of him having more concern with picking up new cars than the playbook, and that he was becoming increasingly distracted in Vegas, and that he might be a negative influence on the other rookies, per Vic Tafur. In a year where there was not as much access to players, it seems the Raiders did not get the character of the player right, and realized there error. On top of that, he wasn't looking explosive, and wasn't developing well.
There was talk of him having more concern with picking up new cars than the playbook, and that he was becoming increasingly distracted in Vegas, and that he might be a negative influence on the other rookies, per Vic Tafur. In a year where there was not as much access to players, it seems the Raiders did not get the character of the player right, and realized there error. On top of that, he wasn't looking explosive, and wasn't developing well.
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Re: Lynn Bowden traded to the Dolphins
It's not easy to just convert offensive positions. There are very few success stories involving converting positions in the nfl. It takes a different mind set and different skill set to succeed at all the things required of a running back. Being patient when need be, hitting a hole at full speed when need be, covering the ball, adjusting pad level through the hole, pass block, blitz pickup then slide out of the backfield, running a route where one is supposed to. Its a combo of learning and natural football sense.jman3134 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:10 am Reports are they're playing him at WR. However, couldn't Oakland have realized this mid camp and pivoted? He must also have sucked at WR. I know Zay Jones/Nelson Agholor is formidable, but come on. Probably not enough time to convert positions if he was starting as a RB. I'm going to avoid him like the plague either way.
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