Henry ruggs yay or nay

[PhillySpecial]

I just received an offer of Ruggs for my 2021 1st. The other owner drafted him in 2020 round 2 and he sees this as a value gain. Smash accept?

[FantasyFreak]

I just received an offer of Ruggs for my 2021 1st. The other owner drafted him in 2020 round 2 and he sees this as a value gain. Smash accept?

I would move a 2021 first for Ruggs, unless it was thought to be very early. The 2021 class could be massively affected by COVID. I just got Ruggs for a 2021 first in a 14 team SF, myself.

[pmart33]

I just received an offer of Ruggs for my 2021 1st. The other owner drafted him in 2020 round 2 and he sees this as a value gain. Smash accept?

I would move a 2021 first for Ruggs, unless it was thought to be very early. The 2021 class could be massively affected by COVID. I just got Ruggs for a 2021 first in a 14 team SF, myself.

X2. I’d jump on that deal

[Yarnith]

2021 WR class is arguably better than the 2020 and will include the guy who started over Ruggs in Alabama. I would save my pick.

[FantasyFreak]

2021 WR class is arguably better than the 2020 and will include the guy who started over Ruggs in Alabama. I would save my pick.

I don't think so. It's top heavy. There isn't the depth of 2020.

[Yarnith]

2021 WR class is arguably better than the 2020 and will include the guy who started over Ruggs in Alabama. I would save my pick.

I don't think so. It's top heavy. There isn't the depth of 2020.

I am unsure how there being more 1st rnd WR talent is bad for fantasy drafts. I am not super worried about the lack of 3rd rnd roster filler guys and special teams players.

[FantasyFreak]

2021 WR class is arguably better than the 2020 and will include the guy who started over Ruggs in Alabama. I would save my pick.

I don't think so. It's top heavy. There isn't the depth of 2020.

I am unsure how there being more 1st rnd WR talent is bad for fantasy drafts. I am not super worried about the lack of 3rd rnd roster filler guys and special teams players.

We shall see. 2021 draft hasn't happened yet. This years class was widely regarded as the deepest ever, with as many as 25 day 1 or day 2 rated talents. Those aren't roster filler/special teams caliber players.

The 2020 draft had 6 WR's in round 1, and the first two picks of round 2 were WR's. 8 of the top 34. Not convinced the 2021 class does that.

I'd gladly take the first WR taken in this class over a random first. Ruggs was drafted to a team/coach that will use him more than he was used at Bama. He's a sub 4.3 burner with hands and good route running. Chase is the only WR I'd take over him in the 2021 class.

I am not at all liking the RB class, so I'd go with Ruggs, unless I knew I could get Chase. To each their own, though.

[Yarnith]

I don't think so. It's top heavy. There isn't the depth of 2020.

I am unsure how there being more 1st rnd WR talent is bad for fantasy drafts. I am not super worried about the lack of 3rd rnd roster filler guys and special teams players.

We shall see. 2021 draft hasn't happened yet. This years class was widely regarded as the deepest ever, with as many as 25 day 1 or day 2 rated talents. Those aren't roster filler/special teams caliber players.

The 2020 draft had 6 WR's in round 1, and the first two picks of round 2 were WR's. 8 of the top 34. Not convinced the 2021 class does that.

I'd gladly take the first WR taken in this class over a random first. Ruggs was drafted to a team/coach that will use him more than he was used at Bama. He's a sub 4.3 burner with hands and good route running. Chase is the only WR I'd take over him in the 2021 class.

That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. I think Ruggs is usable in best ball only, he couldn't beat press coverage in college, its not like the corners get weaker in the NFL and he doesnt have Jeudy and Smith pulling the best corners off him. I would Take Chase, Devonta Smith(the guy who started over Ruggs), Ross, Moore, St.Brown, Wallace. Honestly looking here there is like 10 guys at WR I rather have.

I didn't just decide I thought the 21 could be better. There are multiple articles comparing statistics of everyone involved showing as record breaking as 2020 was that 21 could actually have more 1st rounders as insane as that it is. Everything is in flux and ya never know but that is why we play the game.

[FantasyFreak]

I am unsure how there being more 1st rnd WR talent is bad for fantasy drafts. I am not super worried about the lack of 3rd rnd roster filler guys and special teams players.

We shall see. 2021 draft hasn't happened yet. This years class was widely regarded as the deepest ever, with as many as 25 day 1 or day 2 rated talents. Those aren't roster filler/special teams caliber players.

The 2020 draft had 6 WR's in round 1, and the first two picks of round 2 were WR's. 8 of the top 34. Not convinced the 2021 class does that.

I'd gladly take the first WR taken in this class over a random first. Ruggs was drafted to a team/coach that will use him more than he was used at Bama. He's a sub 4.3 burner with hands and good route running. Chase is the only WR I'd take over him in the 2021 class.

That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. I think Ruggs is usable in best ball only, he couldn't beat press coverage in college, its not like the corners get weaker in the NFL and he doesnt have Jeudy and Smith pulling the best corners off him. I would Take Chase, Devonta Smith(the guy who started over Ruggs), Ross, Moore, St.Brown, Wallace. Honestly looking here there is like 10 guys at WR I rather have.

I didn't just decide I thought the 21 could be better. There are multiple articles comparing statistics of everyone involved showing as record breaking as 2020 was that 21 could actually have more 1st rounders as insane as that it is. Everything is in flux and ya never know but that is why we play the game.

I see Rondale Moore as an ancillary piece in an NFL offense. He's going to be a better college player than an NFL player. I believe Ruggs will be the opposite. Wallace I'm not big on, Ross probably won't declare, and may never play again, either, that's a real possibility. I guess we just don't see Ruggs the same way, that's cool.

[Mike from Canada]

Serious question - which WR's in the 2020 class have actually proven that they can beat press coverage? I keep seeing this criticism thrown around but some context would be good. I mean, I'm not sure Amari Cooper is very good at beating press coverage and people seem to like him.

[PR0v3]

Serious question - which WR's in the 2020 class have actually proven that they can beat press coverage? I keep seeing this criticism thrown around but some context would be good. I mean, I'm not sure Amari Cooper is very good at beating press coverage and people seem to like him.

From what I’ve seen of Jeudy, if he cannot beat press coverage, nobody can.

[Mike from Canada]

Serious question - which WR's in the 2020 class have actually proven that they can beat press coverage? I keep seeing this criticism thrown around but some context would be good. I mean, I'm not sure Amari Cooper is very good at beating press coverage and people seem to like him.

From what I’ve seen of Jeudy, if he cannot beat press coverage, nobody can.

Ok thanks for the response. Many people believe JJ is a generational talent. Anyone else in this class? I'm trying to determine if 'he struggles beating press coverage' is something that offers predictive value to the trajectory of a rookie receiver of if this is the case for the vast majority of new WR's and they can learn as they go.

[AresGodOWar2]

I like Ruggs a lot he was my favorite WR in the class , I really think he can be the next close to Tyreek type player , And the Raiders must think so they did take him over any other WR.. He should be the #1 WR on the team really fast

[FantasyFreak]

Serious question - which WR's in the 2020 class have actually proven that they can beat press coverage? I keep seeing this criticism thrown around but some context would be good. I mean, I'm not sure Amari Cooper is very good at beating press coverage and people seem to like him.

From what I’ve seen of Jeudy, if he cannot beat press coverage, nobody can.

Ok thanks for the response. Many people believe JJ is a generational talent. Anyone else in this class? I'm trying to determine if 'he struggles beating press coverage' is something that offers predictive value to the trajectory of a rookie receiver of if this is the case for the vast majority of new WR's and they can learn as they go.

I haven't seen anyone in professional scouting suggest this. Clearly nobody in the NFL thinks this either, as he went 13th overall. Amari Cooper was a better prospect to most, and some thought he was one. Jeudy doesn't have the physicality to do it on his own. Coop is a bigger, stronger guy, and he isn't generational. Beyond message board scouts, I have seen zero credibility to this assessment, and it isn't a knock on you BTW. Best I've heard is Mcshay thinks he's the best route runner he's ever scouted, which isn't the same thing as a generational talent.

[Yarnith]

Serious question - which WR's in the 2020 class have actually proven that they can beat press coverage? I keep seeing this criticism thrown around but some context would be good. I mean, I'm not sure Amari Cooper is very good at beating press coverage and people seem to like him.

From what I’ve seen of Jeudy, if he cannot beat press coverage, nobody can.

Most of the top 10 WR's have film where they beat press man coverage. Some WR's in college rarely see it though that is not the case in the SEC. When you should take note is when comments like "tends to disappear in games when facing press man coverage". They don't say that to fluff out a scouting report. This is often the case with smaller WR's who rely on their speed as opposed to slower WR's like Jeudy or Lamb who actually muscle through defenders as often as not.