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What are your thoughts on a few players?
Devante Parker--
For me, I feel hes gonna be a top 20 WR, if not top 15
Courtland Sutton--
Yikes thought he was gonna be my #1, and now I see middling wr3 territory
Lev Bell--
Bought in last year, forgot about Gase. Line is improved. What do you make about the guys brought in to possibly lighten the load?
Tyler higbee--
Think this guy is a top 6 tight end this year
Baker mayfield and Daniel Jones--
Do either enter weekly starter status or do you look to move one and find an upgrade
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thanks guys.
For me, I feel hes gonna be a top 20 WR, if not top 15
Courtland Sutton--
Yikes thought he was gonna be my #1, and now I see middling wr3 territory
Lev Bell--
Bought in last year, forgot about Gase. Line is improved. What do you make about the guys brought in to possibly lighten the load?
Tyler higbee--
Think this guy is a top 6 tight end this year
Baker mayfield and Daniel Jones--
Do either enter weekly starter status or do you look to move one and find an upgrade
12 team league
thanks guys.
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RB-, Joe Mixon, Mike Davis, Benny Snell,Salvon Ahmed, Jeff Wilson, Sony Michel, Damien Harris
WR-Michal Thomas, Courtland Sutton, Jamar Chase, Devante Parker, Robert Woods, Chase Claypool,
TE-Tyler Higbee, Adam Trautman
Qb-Baker mayfield , Daniel Jones, justin fields
RB-, Joe Mixon, Mike Davis, Benny Snell,Salvon Ahmed, Jeff Wilson, Sony Michel, Damien Harris
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Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
Not high on Parker, I certainly don’t see top 15 or 20 potential out of him.
Middling WR3 territory for Sutton? I expect WR2 territory at worse for him.
I’d feel much more comfortable starting Bell at a flex spot rather than as an RB2.
I don’t see Higbee as a top 6 TE.
Mayfield and Jones should be serviceable in a 1QB league.
Middling WR3 territory for Sutton? I expect WR2 territory at worse for him.
I’d feel much more comfortable starting Bell at a flex spot rather than as an RB2.
I don’t see Higbee as a top 6 TE.
Mayfield and Jones should be serviceable in a 1QB league.
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Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
Parker - I think Preston Williams is the best receiver on that roster and Parker peaked last year. Wr2-3 range for life.
Sutton - Sutton will be easy WR1 numbers barring lock imploding. The added talent around him actually helps him in this case as he did what he did as the only person the defense needed to cover on the field for most of the season.
Lev bell - The "fantasy blackhole" isn't fired yet I would be thrilled to get a 2nd for him in any format and wouldn't pay a 3rd to own him, his window slammed shut the day he held out.
Tyler Higbee - Man when this kid breaks out he will be special, wait that was 2016, 4years later he has 1400 rec yards and 7 tds for his entire career. I was high on him long ago but that ships sailed.
Mayfield and Jones - Both have shown elite talent at times. Unless someone is Mayfield or Jones crazy you simply wont get value from them. I hold both as I think they both have a lot of upside we havent seen yet.
There are my thoughts on your list hope it helps ya out.
Sutton - Sutton will be easy WR1 numbers barring lock imploding. The added talent around him actually helps him in this case as he did what he did as the only person the defense needed to cover on the field for most of the season.
Lev bell - The "fantasy blackhole" isn't fired yet I would be thrilled to get a 2nd for him in any format and wouldn't pay a 3rd to own him, his window slammed shut the day he held out.
Tyler Higbee - Man when this kid breaks out he will be special, wait that was 2016, 4years later he has 1400 rec yards and 7 tds for his entire career. I was high on him long ago but that ships sailed.
Mayfield and Jones - Both have shown elite talent at times. Unless someone is Mayfield or Jones crazy you simply wont get value from them. I hold both as I think they both have a lot of upside we havent seen yet.
There are my thoughts on your list hope it helps ya out.
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Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
Parker - perfect storm for him last year but I dont think he will ever match his stats again. Top 30 - 40 wr. I really like Parker but not sure the targets and just throw the ball up strategy is there next season.
Sutton - huge upside. If Lock makes a jump, he could be a top 15 year after year.
Bell - maybe one more decent year, but I would not expect much. The Jets did work hard to improve their line though, plus a healthy Darnold could be huge for the whole offense.
Higbee - not sold on Higbee, but very interested to see if he builds on the end of last year.
Mayfield - still a hold, but man was last year ugly
Jones - hold as well.
Sutton - huge upside. If Lock makes a jump, he could be a top 15 year after year.
Bell - maybe one more decent year, but I would not expect much. The Jets did work hard to improve their line though, plus a healthy Darnold could be huge for the whole offense.
Higbee - not sold on Higbee, but very interested to see if he builds on the end of last year.
Mayfield - still a hold, but man was last year ugly
Jones - hold as well.
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Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
Parker
I think the dynasty community is a bit low on him. It's natural to be skeptical but he looked like the guy we expected all along last year; and even if you weren't sold after the Eagles game, I can't see how you look at him torching the DPOY and denying the Patriots a bye and not be impressed. Around WR20-25 seems right to me
Sutton
Not a WR1 but that's more likely than middling WR3. Can't understand how you'd see that: even if Lock is bad, he put up solid numbers with the corpse of Joe Flacco and Brandon Allen. I say low WR2 floor with a low WR1 ceiling. Most likely mid WR2
Bell
He isn't totally washed but I am still not sold on that line: Becton is a project not an immediate fix. They should have spent for Conklin.
I would be fine with him as a FLEX but nothing more than that. Also I am pretty sure Gase and Douglas were not the ones who signed him so I could see him get dealt to an RBBC somewhere midseason if the Jets aren't within striking distance of the playoffs.
Higbee
Mediocre replacement level talent and flash in the pan IMO. I don't even expect him to be the top TE on the Rams by the end of the year.
Mayfield
Never a fan. He has talent but his pocket presence looked horrendous last year; and despite incredible skill position talent, he looked like a bottom 5 NFL QB. Real coaching and line upgrades will help this year, but I don't see much consistency. If someone is buying for mid QB1 level prices, I would sell
Jones
All in on him this year--both in my SF leagues and most likely in my redraft ones. He performed wit no true WR1, a sub par O Line and his supporting cast going through a lot of injury issues (Tate, Shepard, Engram and obviously Barkley).
Now he has those guys back, an upgraded OL (Thomas should be a day 1 starter) and I suspect next year he will get a first round WR as well (not relevant for this year but speaking long term). I expect a QB 7 or 8 type finish this year
I think the dynasty community is a bit low on him. It's natural to be skeptical but he looked like the guy we expected all along last year; and even if you weren't sold after the Eagles game, I can't see how you look at him torching the DPOY and denying the Patriots a bye and not be impressed. Around WR20-25 seems right to me
Sutton
Not a WR1 but that's more likely than middling WR3. Can't understand how you'd see that: even if Lock is bad, he put up solid numbers with the corpse of Joe Flacco and Brandon Allen. I say low WR2 floor with a low WR1 ceiling. Most likely mid WR2
Bell
He isn't totally washed but I am still not sold on that line: Becton is a project not an immediate fix. They should have spent for Conklin.
I would be fine with him as a FLEX but nothing more than that. Also I am pretty sure Gase and Douglas were not the ones who signed him so I could see him get dealt to an RBBC somewhere midseason if the Jets aren't within striking distance of the playoffs.
Higbee
Mediocre replacement level talent and flash in the pan IMO. I don't even expect him to be the top TE on the Rams by the end of the year.
Mayfield
Never a fan. He has talent but his pocket presence looked horrendous last year; and despite incredible skill position talent, he looked like a bottom 5 NFL QB. Real coaching and line upgrades will help this year, but I don't see much consistency. If someone is buying for mid QB1 level prices, I would sell
Jones
All in on him this year--both in my SF leagues and most likely in my redraft ones. He performed wit no true WR1, a sub par O Line and his supporting cast going through a lot of injury issues (Tate, Shepard, Engram and obviously Barkley).
Now he has those guys back, an upgraded OL (Thomas should be a day 1 starter) and I suspect next year he will get a first round WR as well (not relevant for this year but speaking long term). I expect a QB 7 or 8 type finish this year
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Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
Parker - While Fitz is starting I think he is a top 10 WR , When they bring in the rookie I really don't know how much it will hurt him
Sutton - He should be fine with Juedy there tbh it might help him get open more , I think he will be a top 20 WR
Bell - I see a nice bounce back from Bell , He is going to get his 80+ catches and 250+ carries if he can bring the YPC up a little he should be top 10-15 RB
Higbee - I love him this year I think he builds on what he did at the end of last year and proves to be a top 5 TE for a full year in a pass happy offence
Baker - I think he had his sophomore slump and with another year under his belt and a new coach he becomes a top 10 QB and what he should have been
Jones - Should be a solid top 20 QB with all the weapons he has if they can finally stay health
Sutton - He should be fine with Juedy there tbh it might help him get open more , I think he will be a top 20 WR
Bell - I see a nice bounce back from Bell , He is going to get his 80+ catches and 250+ carries if he can bring the YPC up a little he should be top 10-15 RB
Higbee - I love him this year I think he builds on what he did at the end of last year and proves to be a top 5 TE for a full year in a pass happy offence
Baker - I think he had his sophomore slump and with another year under his belt and a new coach he becomes a top 10 QB and what he should have been
Jones - Should be a solid top 20 QB with all the weapons he has if they can finally stay health
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Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
Parker depends on fitzmagic, but he finally seemed to put things together last year, he finished wr 7 and they didnt bring in much competition, dolphins still arent a good team and should be throwingFantasyFoosball wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:34 pm Not high on Parker, I certainly don’t see top 15 or 20 potential out of him.
Middling WR3 territory for Sutton? I expect WR2 territory at worse for him.
I’d feel much more comfortable starting Bell at a flex spot rather than as an RB2.
I don’t see Higbee as a top 6 TE.
Mayfield and Jones should be serviceable in a 1QB league.
sutton got , what 120 targets last year? with sanders gone, and injuries...........now jeudy, gordon, hamler, fant, et el are in the mix.......just dont see him replicating his #15 finish or top 20.........
Bell is actually my RB3, I also have mixon and josh jacobs......it is a 1 qb league, i was happy as heck to have mayfield then regression
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thanks!!! maybe im wrong on sutton. Parker was awful to start the year, then went off to finish top 10.......even with regression, i think he may have finally got it, they paid him too. No guarantees williams his fully healthy either.Yarnith wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:39 pm Parker - I think Preston Williams is the best receiver on that roster and Parker peaked last year. Wr2-3 range for life.
Sutton - Sutton will be easy WR1 numbers barring lock imploding. The added talent around him actually helps him in this case as he did what he did as the only person the defense needed to cover on the field for most of the season.
Lev bell - The "fantasy blackhole" isn't fired yet I would be thrilled to get a 2nd for him in any format and wouldn't pay a 3rd to own him, his window slammed shut the day he held out.
Tyler Higbee - Man when this kid breaks out he will be special, wait that was 2016, 4years later he has 1400 rec yards and 7 tds for his entire career. I was high on him long ago but that ships sailed.
Mayfield and Jones - Both have shown elite talent at times. Unless someone is Mayfield or Jones crazy you simply wont get value from them. I hold both as I think they both have a lot of upside we havent seen yet.
There are my thoughts on your list hope it helps ya out.
Trading a starting rb for a round 2 pick seems terrible to me. I know you guys do things different. But thats getting me a return of say, mims/K.vaugh/shenault/Aiyuk? I jst dont see how that helps. 12 teams , running backs are hoarded. If you have 3 starters you're super lucky. I have bell, mixon, jacobs.
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TE-Tyler Higbee, Adam Trautman
Qb-Baker mayfield , Daniel Jones, justin fields
RB-, Joe Mixon, Mike Davis, Benny Snell,Salvon Ahmed, Jeff Wilson, Sony Michel, Damien Harris
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Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
my hope is bell gets semi hot and i flip him mid year.....thank you for your input!Gator Sens wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:41 pm Parker - perfect storm for him last year but I dont think he will ever match his stats again. Top 30 - 40 wr. I really like Parker but not sure the targets and just throw the ball up strategy is there next season.
Sutton - huge upside. If Lock makes a jump, he could be a top 15 year after year.
Bell - maybe one more decent year, but I would not expect much. The Jets did work hard to improve their line though, plus a healthy Darnold could be huge for the whole offense.
Higbee - not sold on Higbee, but very interested to see if he builds on the end of last year.
Mayfield - still a hold, but man was last year ugly
Jones - hold as well.
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Again on sutton he had 120 targets, with all the surrounding pieces missing. Now they add a ton, i dont see him replicating, or receiving as many looks.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:53 pm Parker
I think the dynasty community is a bit low on him. It's natural to be skeptical but he looked like the guy we expected all along last year; and even if you weren't sold after the Eagles game, I can't see how you look at him torching the DPOY and denying the Patriots a bye and not be impressed. Around WR20-25 seems right to me
Sutton
Not a WR1 but that's more likely than middling WR3. Can't understand how you'd see that: even if Lock is bad, he put up solid numbers with the corpse of Joe Flacco and Brandon Allen. I say low WR2 floor with a low WR1 ceiling. Most likely mid WR2
Bell
He isn't totally washed but I am still not sold on that line: Becton is a project not an immediate fix. They should have spent for Conklin.
I would be fine with him as a FLEX but nothing more than that. Also I am pretty sure Gase and Douglas were not the ones who signed him so I could see him get dealt to an RBBC somewhere midseason if the Jets aren't within striking distance of the playoffs.
Higbee
Mediocre replacement level talent and flash in the pan IMO. I don't even expect him to be the top TE on the Rams by the end of the year.
Mayfield
Never a fan. He has talent but his pocket presence looked horrendous last year; and despite incredible skill position talent, he looked like a bottom 5 NFL QB. Real coaching and line upgrades will help this year, but I don't see much consistency. If someone is buying for mid QB1 level prices, I would sell
Jones
All in on him this year--both in my SF leagues and most likely in my redraft ones. He performed wit no true WR1, a sub par O Line and his supporting cast going through a lot of injury issues (Tate, Shepard, Engram and obviously Barkley).
Now he has those guys back, an upgraded OL (Thomas should be a day 1 starter) and I suspect next year he will get a first round WR as well (not relevant for this year but speaking long term). I expect a QB 7 or 8 type finish this year
thank you for your input!
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RB-, Joe Mixon, Mike Davis, Benny Snell,Salvon Ahmed, Jeff Wilson, Sony Michel, Damien Harris
WR-Michal Thomas, Courtland Sutton, Jamar Chase, Devante Parker, Robert Woods, Chase Claypool,
TE-Tyler Higbee, Adam Trautman
Qb-Baker mayfield , Daniel Jones, justin fields
RB-, Joe Mixon, Mike Davis, Benny Snell,Salvon Ahmed, Jeff Wilson, Sony Michel, Damien Harris
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Great way to go with Bell if the opportunity presents itself.steelerspride wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:07 pmmy hope is bell gets semi hot and i flip him mid year.....thank you for your input!Gator Sens wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:41 pm Parker - perfect storm for him last year but I dont think he will ever match his stats again. Top 30 - 40 wr. I really like Parker but not sure the targets and just throw the ball up strategy is there next season.
Sutton - huge upside. If Lock makes a jump, he could be a top 15 year after year.
Bell - maybe one more decent year, but I would not expect much. The Jets did work hard to improve their line though, plus a healthy Darnold could be huge for the whole offense.
Higbee - not sold on Higbee, but very interested to see if he builds on the end of last year.
Mayfield - still a hold, but man was last year ugly
Jones - hold as well.
Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
I am a Dolphins fan and maybe Parker has finally lived up to the hype. Sadly he may also just be lazy and only balled out to get paid and will fade into mediocrity again. At his age the latter seems more likely to me.steelerspride wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:03 pmthanks!!! maybe im wrong on sutton. Parker was awful to start the year, then went off to finish top 10.......even with regression, i think he may have finally got it, they paid him too. No guarantees williams his fully healthy either.Yarnith wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:39 pm Parker - I think Preston Williams is the best receiver on that roster and Parker peaked last year. Wr2-3 range for life.
Sutton - Sutton will be easy WR1 numbers barring lock imploding. The added talent around him actually helps him in this case as he did what he did as the only person the defense needed to cover on the field for most of the season.
Lev bell - The "fantasy blackhole" isn't fired yet I would be thrilled to get a 2nd for him in any format and wouldn't pay a 3rd to own him, his window slammed shut the day he held out.
Tyler Higbee - Man when this kid breaks out he will be special, wait that was 2016, 4years later he has 1400 rec yards and 7 tds for his entire career. I was high on him long ago but that ships sailed.
Mayfield and Jones - Both have shown elite talent at times. Unless someone is Mayfield or Jones crazy you simply wont get value from them. I hold both as I think they both have a lot of upside we havent seen yet.
There are my thoughts on your list hope it helps ya out.
Trading a starting rb for a round 2 pick seems terrible to me. I know you guys do things different. But thats getting me a return of say, mims/K.vaugh/shenault/Aiyuk? I jst dont see how that helps. 12 teams , running backs are hoarded. If you have 3 starters you're super lucky. I have bell, mixon, jacobs.
Keep in mind yeah Sutton had a 120 targets from an Awful Flacco and a rookie Lock. His targets will be down but the quality per reception should go way up as the defense has to respect the other options.
I think Bell is done, I don't think he has ever been exceptional the Steelers offense made him look that way, I feel the same about Gordan and the Chargers. When I add in a Gase led Jets I just cant get excited. Think on this If you believe Kenyan Drake is an elite back in AZ and Parker has finally arrived that means Gase was so bad at his job he made them nobodys in Miami, doesn't give you a warm fuzzy about the mans ability to use talent.
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Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
Remember Sutton's biggest issue coming out of college was lack of separation facing CB1 coverage. His targets will go down but his efficiency will go up IMO with more WRs to take the heat off. Remember that he was as good if not better when Emmaunel Sanders was with the Broncossteelerspride wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:09 pmAgain on sutton he had 120 targets, with all the surrounding pieces missing. Now they add a ton, i dont see him replicating, or receiving as many looks.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:53 pm Parker
I think the dynasty community is a bit low on him. It's natural to be skeptical but he looked like the guy we expected all along last year; and even if you weren't sold after the Eagles game, I can't see how you look at him torching the DPOY and denying the Patriots a bye and not be impressed. Around WR20-25 seems right to me
Sutton
Not a WR1 but that's more likely than middling WR3. Can't understand how you'd see that: even if Lock is bad, he put up solid numbers with the corpse of Joe Flacco and Brandon Allen. I say low WR2 floor with a low WR1 ceiling. Most likely mid WR2
Bell
He isn't totally washed but I am still not sold on that line: Becton is a project not an immediate fix. They should have spent for Conklin.
I would be fine with him as a FLEX but nothing more than that. Also I am pretty sure Gase and Douglas were not the ones who signed him so I could see him get dealt to an RBBC somewhere midseason if the Jets aren't within striking distance of the playoffs.
Higbee
Mediocre replacement level talent and flash in the pan IMO. I don't even expect him to be the top TE on the Rams by the end of the year.
Mayfield
Never a fan. He has talent but his pocket presence looked horrendous last year; and despite incredible skill position talent, he looked like a bottom 5 NFL QB. Real coaching and line upgrades will help this year, but I don't see much consistency. If someone is buying for mid QB1 level prices, I would sell
Jones
All in on him this year--both in my SF leagues and most likely in my redraft ones. He performed wit no true WR1, a sub par O Line and his supporting cast going through a lot of injury issues (Tate, Shepard, Engram and obviously Barkley).
Now he has those guys back, an upgraded OL (Thomas should be a day 1 starter) and I suspect next year he will get a first round WR as well (not relevant for this year but speaking long term). I expect a QB 7 or 8 type finish this year
thank you for your input!
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Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
ur right on gase. I think the steelers did make bell. But i do think hes talented, very talented........that line should be much better.......Parker i have nothingYarnith wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:24 pmI am a Dolphins fan and maybe Parker has finally lived up to the hype. Sadly he may also just be lazy and only balled out to get paid and will fade into mediocrity again. At his age the latter seems more likely to me.steelerspride wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:03 pmthanks!!! maybe im wrong on sutton. Parker was awful to start the year, then went off to finish top 10.......even with regression, i think he may have finally got it, they paid him too. No guarantees williams his fully healthy either.Yarnith wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:39 pm Parker - I think Preston Williams is the best receiver on that roster and Parker peaked last year. Wr2-3 range for life.
Sutton - Sutton will be easy WR1 numbers barring lock imploding. The added talent around him actually helps him in this case as he did what he did as the only person the defense needed to cover on the field for most of the season.
Lev bell - The "fantasy blackhole" isn't fired yet I would be thrilled to get a 2nd for him in any format and wouldn't pay a 3rd to own him, his window slammed shut the day he held out.
Tyler Higbee - Man when this kid breaks out he will be special, wait that was 2016, 4years later he has 1400 rec yards and 7 tds for his entire career. I was high on him long ago but that ships sailed.
Mayfield and Jones - Both have shown elite talent at times. Unless someone is Mayfield or Jones crazy you simply wont get value from them. I hold both as I think they both have a lot of upside we havent seen yet.
There are my thoughts on your list hope it helps ya out.
Trading a starting rb for a round 2 pick seems terrible to me. I know you guys do things different. But thats getting me a return of say, mims/K.vaugh/shenault/Aiyuk? I jst dont see how that helps. 12 teams , running backs are hoarded. If you have 3 starters you're super lucky. I have bell, mixon, jacobs.
Keep in mind yeah Sutton had a 120 targets from an Awful Flacco and a rookie Lock. His targets will be down but the quality per reception should go way up as the defense has to respect the other options.
I think Bell is done, I don't think he has ever been exceptional the Steelers offense made him look that way, I feel the same about Gordan and the Chargers. When I add in a Gase led Jets I just cant get excited. Think on this If you believe Kenyan Drake is an elite back in AZ and Parker has finally arrived that means Gase was so bad at his job he made them nobodys in Miami, doesn't give you a warm fuzzy about the mans ability to use talent.
Drake......i dont think drake is elite, i think he can be an elite fantasy player. Im a believer in kingsbury's system and his use of rb's. I believe that he looks for a type of back too, and drake fits his mold perfectly...........
i still just cant wrap my head around a ton less targets for sutton and him still putting up top 15 numbers.
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Re: What are your thoughts on a few players?
i know, but theres ALOT of mouths to feed. If his efficiency doesnt improve..........Im always an oppertunity guy.....its why jeudy or lamb is was down on the dynasty list for me.........at least right now......StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:27 pmRemember Sutton's biggest issue coming out of college was lack of separation facing CB1 coverage. His targets will go down but his efficiency will go up IMO with more WRs to take the heat off. Remember that he was as good if not better when Emmaunel Sanders was with the Broncossteelerspride wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:09 pmAgain on sutton he had 120 targets, with all the surrounding pieces missing. Now they add a ton, i dont see him replicating, or receiving as many looks.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:53 pm Parker
I think the dynasty community is a bit low on him. It's natural to be skeptical but he looked like the guy we expected all along last year; and even if you weren't sold after the Eagles game, I can't see how you look at him torching the DPOY and denying the Patriots a bye and not be impressed. Around WR20-25 seems right to me
Sutton
Not a WR1 but that's more likely than middling WR3. Can't understand how you'd see that: even if Lock is bad, he put up solid numbers with the corpse of Joe Flacco and Brandon Allen. I say low WR2 floor with a low WR1 ceiling. Most likely mid WR2
Bell
He isn't totally washed but I am still not sold on that line: Becton is a project not an immediate fix. They should have spent for Conklin.
I would be fine with him as a FLEX but nothing more than that. Also I am pretty sure Gase and Douglas were not the ones who signed him so I could see him get dealt to an RBBC somewhere midseason if the Jets aren't within striking distance of the playoffs.
Higbee
Mediocre replacement level talent and flash in the pan IMO. I don't even expect him to be the top TE on the Rams by the end of the year.
Mayfield
Never a fan. He has talent but his pocket presence looked horrendous last year; and despite incredible skill position talent, he looked like a bottom 5 NFL QB. Real coaching and line upgrades will help this year, but I don't see much consistency. If someone is buying for mid QB1 level prices, I would sell
Jones
All in on him this year--both in my SF leagues and most likely in my redraft ones. He performed wit no true WR1, a sub par O Line and his supporting cast going through a lot of injury issues (Tate, Shepard, Engram and obviously Barkley).
Now he has those guys back, an upgraded OL (Thomas should be a day 1 starter) and I suspect next year he will get a first round WR as well (not relevant for this year but speaking long term). I expect a QB 7 or 8 type finish this year
thank you for your input!
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RB-, Joe Mixon, Mike Davis, Benny Snell,Salvon Ahmed, Jeff Wilson, Sony Michel, Damien Harris
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TE-Tyler Higbee, Adam Trautman
Qb-Baker mayfield , Daniel Jones, justin fields
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