More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Apex discussing why KJ Hamler is the steal of this year's rookie draft
https://apexfantasyleagues.com/2020/05/ ... ie-drafts/
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16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Nix
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Connor, Benson
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Woods
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Nix
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Connor, Benson
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Woods
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
I'm not sure I'd put Hamler's talent on the same level as Marquise Brown or DeSean Jackson and there's more to being a good receiver than just speed. It could very well be that his high draft pick had more to do with what he had to offer as a kick returner. The article also says that Drew Lock and the other receivers will stand in the way of year 1 success and that Lock's future replacement will improve his chances. Denver doesn't necessarily have the best track record at finding quality QBs and I don't think that the target hogs on top of the totem pole are going to retire anytime soon. I'm not sure how much of a bargain Hamler actually is. This may just be a case of "you get what you pay for".Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 6:47 pm Apex discussing why KJ Hamler is the steal of this year's rookie draft
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Bit worried about his chances with Sutton, Jeudy, and the duo of Lindsay/Gordon in front of himOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 6:47 pm Apex discussing why KJ Hamler is the steal of this year's rookie draft
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12 team dynasty | SF | 1 ppr
QBs: Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins
WRs: Deebo, Godwin, Mbrown, JDowns
RBs: Chubb, Gibbs, Achane, K. Miller
TE: Okonkwo, Mayer
2024 1.03, 1.09
2025 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st / 2nd, 2nd
2026 1st, 1st / 2nd
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QBs: Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins
WRs: Deebo, Godwin, Mbrown, JDowns
RBs: Chubb, Gibbs, Achane, K. Miller
TE: Okonkwo, Mayer
2024 1.03, 1.09
2025 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st / 2nd, 2nd
2026 1st, 1st / 2nd
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Given how low his rookie ADP is right now (3rd round), skepticism of immediate contribution doesn't matter.gunfrees wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 6:13 pmBit worried about his chances with Sutton, Jeudy, and the duo of Lindsay/Gordon in front of himOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 6:47 pm Apex discussing why KJ Hamler is the steal of this year's rookie draft
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Situation and weight are the only negatives and they're more than baked into his ADP in the 30's. He checks every other box.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 5:50 pmI'm not sure I'd put Hamler's talent on the same level as Marquise Brown or DeSean Jackson and there's more to being a good receiver than just speed. It could very well be that his high draft pick had more to do with what he had to offer as a kick returner. The article also says that Drew Lock and the other receivers will stand in the way of year 1 success and that Lock's future replacement will improve his chances. Denver doesn't necessarily have the best track record at finding quality QBs and I don't think that the target hogs on top of the totem pole are going to retire anytime soon. I'm not sure how much of a bargain Hamler actually is. This may just be a case of "you get what you pay for".Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 6:47 pm Apex discussing why KJ Hamler is the steal of this year's rookie draft
https://apexfantasyleagues.com/2020/05/ ... ie-drafts/
I can't recall ever getting this caliber player into the 3rd round of rookie drafts.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Nix
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Connor, Benson
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Woods
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Nix
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Connor, Benson
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Woods
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
I wouldn't be surprised to see Hamler carve out a decent role in DEN. Sutton going over the top, Jeudy taking additional attention away, throw a speedy Hamler across the middle on a quick slant and you could have a PPR machine. He might never have mind blowing numbers, but his skill is NFL ready.
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Agreed, I drafted him when I could snag him at a great spot (4.7, 4.6).Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:18 amSituation and weight are the only negatives and they're more than baked into his ADP in the 30's. He checks every other box.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 5:50 pmI'm not sure I'd put Hamler's talent on the same level as Marquise Brown or DeSean Jackson and there's more to being a good receiver than just speed. It could very well be that his high draft pick had more to do with what he had to offer as a kick returner. The article also says that Drew Lock and the other receivers will stand in the way of year 1 success and that Lock's future replacement will improve his chances. Denver doesn't necessarily have the best track record at finding quality QBs and I don't think that the target hogs on top of the totem pole are going to retire anytime soon. I'm not sure how much of a bargain Hamler actually is. This may just be a case of "you get what you pay for".Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 6:47 pm Apex discussing why KJ Hamler is the steal of this year's rookie draft
https://apexfantasyleagues.com/2020/05/ ... ie-drafts/
I can't recall ever getting this caliber player into the 3rd round of rookie drafts.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Bad hands, poor catching technique (body catching) just to name a few negativesOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:18 amSituation and weight are the only negatives and they're more than baked into his ADP in the 30's. He checks every other box.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 5:50 pmI'm not sure I'd put Hamler's talent on the same level as Marquise Brown or DeSean Jackson and there's more to being a good receiver than just speed. It could very well be that his high draft pick had more to do with what he had to offer as a kick returner. The article also says that Drew Lock and the other receivers will stand in the way of year 1 success and that Lock's future replacement will improve his chances. Denver doesn't necessarily have the best track record at finding quality QBs and I don't think that the target hogs on top of the totem pole are going to retire anytime soon. I'm not sure how much of a bargain Hamler actually is. This may just be a case of "you get what you pay for".Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 6:47 pm Apex discussing why KJ Hamler is the steal of this year's rookie draft
https://apexfantasyleagues.com/2020/05/ ... ie-drafts/
I can't recall ever getting this caliber player into the 3rd round of rookie drafts.
I won’t object to taking him in the 3rd by any means; but like someone else said, I think you are getting what you are paying for
Of course: if Denver blows up like many expect, then absolutely Hamler could ride that wave. Situations can change fast
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Laviska, Aiyuk, Edwards are falling into the 3rd in more than a few of my drafts. This is just an incredibly deep draft. The late 2nd/early 3rd this year is a gold mine compared to previous seasons.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:18 amSituation and weight are the only negatives and they're more than baked into his ADP in the 30's. He checks every other box.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 5:50 pmI'm not sure I'd put Hamler's talent on the same level as Marquise Brown or DeSean Jackson and there's more to being a good receiver than just speed. It could very well be that his high draft pick had more to do with what he had to offer as a kick returner. The article also says that Drew Lock and the other receivers will stand in the way of year 1 success and that Lock's future replacement will improve his chances. Denver doesn't necessarily have the best track record at finding quality QBs and I don't think that the target hogs on top of the totem pole are going to retire anytime soon. I'm not sure how much of a bargain Hamler actually is. This may just be a case of "you get what you pay for".Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 6:47 pm Apex discussing why KJ Hamler is the steal of this year's rookie draft
https://apexfantasyleagues.com/2020/05/ ... ie-drafts/
I can't recall ever getting this caliber player into the 3rd round of rookie drafts.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
About the only thing Hamler has in common with Hollywood is his size.
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Hamler strikes me as a guy who even in his near best case scenario is a better NFL player than fantasy player. I think Denver drafted him to run deep and keep the safeties back while Sutton/Jeudy do the work underneath, and also probably to return kicks.
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