Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
Team 2 in sig. would you trade Hardman and a ‘21 1st for Keenan Allen and a ‘21 2nd? I have 2 ‘21 1sts
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
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1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
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1.02, 1.11
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
Allen definitely helps you more right now. I really like Hardman, but his possible breakout will have to wait again.
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
I'd rather use the pick to try and upgrade at QB...
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TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
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RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
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2020: 2nd Place
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
Trust me I’ve tried. Best I could get is like a Cousins type and I’m not sure it’s enough of an upgrade to justify cost.FantasyFoosball wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 9:24 amI'd rather use the pick to try and upgrade at QB...
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
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1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
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1.02, 1.11
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
Allen helps you now, but he is 28 and Mecole is 22 and on a great offense. Allen just downgraded at qb and will have to build chemistry with Tyrod and then again with Herbert once he takes over. Mecole is poised to breakout this year or next so the way I see it your downgrading your pick and giving away a lot of potential after this year. It's reasonable that we see Mecole outperform Allen as soon as 2021 but I think definitely by 2022. I'd keep your guy and pick.
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
Pass. I don't think that the potential upgrade from Hardman to Allen in 2020 makes your team's playoff hopes (let alone championship hopes) much better. And, come next year, you'll REALLY wish that you had your first-round pick.
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WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
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2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
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2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
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RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
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TE: --
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IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
I would pass as well. I think Hardman will make a step up this year in that offense and just to see how Allen will get the volume he has in the past.
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
I think its shortsighted, keep what ya got. I like Allen but its not vaulting you into the championship and you sacrifice not 1 but 2 future starters to do it.
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WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
I would rather keep Hardman and the 1st.
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
I prefer Hardman
Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
Keenan > Hardman and a '21 1st for me, the second is free. Snap accept.
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
Sometimes a slow rebuild is much more satisfying and successful than just trying to find upgrades. Keep Hardman and the first and continue that build I think you’ll be better off in the long run by standing pat
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
It’s funny, I don’t see my team as a rebuild haha. I definitely think I have one of the top 3-4 teams in my league right now. My QBs aren’t ideal but I think I’m solid at every other position.
Always interesting to hear other perspectives.
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12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
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Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
Hardman side for me, rather easily. KA is fine for a strong contender but otherwise, he’s not a player that I would pay Hardman/1st for at this stage of his career, jmo.
Re: Hardman/1st for Keenan/2nd
Ended up just flipping a 1st for Keenan. Happy to keep Hardman
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.02, 1.11
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
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