QB value in a 10 team SF leauge

[joeya2001]

So I keep getting mixed answers from many on here, in a 10 team Superflex league, are QB's values lower than a 12 and up?

Should QBs fall a bit lower in a draft than taken higher.

in my league

1.01 went JT
1.02 went CEH

does that seem strange?

[MEuRaH]

Depends on the rest of the league settings and the QB ownership amongst other teams. In my PPR league last year, 22 of the top 32 players were QB. That makes QB very easy to come by for a 10 team league.

If the league is the one in your sig, you only have to start 1QB but you must also start 2RB. That means there is already a higher emphasis on starting a RB. Using my PPR league as an example, the 20th RB on that list of players ranked 81st overall. James White, followed by Devonta Freeman, Marlon Mack, then Melvin Gordon.

RB scarcity is real right now. Everyone is scrambling to take RB in rookie drafts. If you were in a 12 team SF or if you only had to start 1 RB, I think Burrow would have been the #1 pick. I'm not terribly shocked that your draft went RB, RB.

Were you sitting 3rd or something, and you're upset that you're not going to get one of those top 2 guys?

[Jigga94]

The more teams, the less QBs there are generally. Demand drives prices up.

In a 10 team, I wouldn't be surprised if the top picks don't go QB. Plus all leagues are different. Some SF leagues seem to barely value QB more than 1QB leagues. Some will have the QB go very early in a draft but not necessarily 1, 2. It sounds like yours might be somewhere in the middle

[joeya2001]

Depends on the rest of the league settings and the QB ownership amongst other teams. In my PPR league last year, 22 of the top 32 players were QB. That makes QB very easy to come by for a 10 team league.

If the league is the one in your sig, you only have to start 1QB but you must also start 2RB. That means there is already a higher emphasis on starting a RB. Using my PPR league as an example, the 20th RB on that list of players ranked 81st overall. James White, followed by Devonta Freeman, Marlon Mack, then Melvin Gordon.

RB scarcity is real right now. Everyone is scrambling to take RB in rookie drafts. If you were in a 12 team SF or if you only had to start 1 RB, I think Burrow would have been the #1 pick. I'm not terribly shocked that your draft went RB, RB.

Were you sitting 3rd or something, and you're upset that you're not going to get one of those top 2 guys?

yes im at 3rd right now deciding to either take Burrow or Dobbins lol

I have not read anywhere that talks about QB valus in a 10 team league where some rosters have 3-4 QB on them

Mike, your write up on Dobbs makes me think hes the best player in the draft

[DLF3000]

So you start 10, one of which is SF and two others are normal flex?

What is your max roster size? That's the big missing piece of info (aside from any atypical scoring settings) to help understand your SF QB value question.

My 10-team league is 1QB but is 25 (26 in-season) players deep for rosters. So in that sense, it's similar to plenty of 12-team leagues as far as total # of rostered and available players.

That said, while it's hard to find great QBs, there's probably a decent supply of give-or-take average ones in your league.

With only 20 QB starters needed, 30 temporarily if you count byes, and 32 NFL starters, there should theoretically be just enough supply for them in your league, making them a little less insanely desired than they are in 12 team SF leagues.

[joeya2001]

So you start 10, one of which is SF and two others are normal flex?

What is your max roster size? That's the big missing piece of info (aside from any atypical scoring settings) to help understand your SF QB value question.

My 10-team league is 1QB but is 25 (26 in-season) players deep for rosters. So in that sense, it's similar to plenty of 12-team leagues as far as total # of rostered and available players.

That said, while it's hard to find great QBs, there's probably a decent supply of give-or-take average ones in your league.

With only 20 QB starters needed, 30 temporarily if you count byes, and 32 NFL starters, there should theoretically be just enough supply for them in your league, making them a little less insanely desired than they are in 12 team SF leagues.

Roster size is 24 players

2 normal Flex spots and 1 SF spot. 5TD -2 INT

[DLF3000]

Ok so similar to mine. In your situation with a top rookie pick and three great QBs, I can definitely see going RB and grabbing a QB later this year or next year to address Rivers' age.

If you're not a high-risk type GM, go QB. But otherwise, RB at 1.03 sounds good.

[joeya2001]

Yea that's where im at

[moishetreats]

If you had both Burrow and Dobbins for their entire careers, I'm willing to bet just about anything that Burrow would start far more games for you than Dobbins. And Burrow could also be reallllly good.

In a draft, you take the best player. That's how you set yourself up for sustained success. Don't worry about need in May. If you simply have better players, then you'll be able to trade from strength (rather than desperation) to address your need.

Burrow is simply the better SF player. I'd draft him without a second though... at 1.01.

[joeya2001]

I want to bump this back up. so im not debating in a Dobbins thread.

QB's just don't carry the same weight in a 10 team league that it does in 12 and up.

Im surprised that some think Tua going in the second is shocking.

I don't think so at all.

[joeya2001]

If you had both Burrow and Dobbins for their entire careers, I'm willing to bet just about anything that Burrow would start far more games for you than Dobbins. And Burrow could also be reallllly good.

In a draft, you take the best player. That's how you set yourself up for sustained success. Don't worry about need in May. If you simply have better players, then you'll be able to trade from strength (rather than desperation) to address your need.

Burrow is simply the better SF player. I'd draft him without a second though... at 1.01.

Well yea, Ryan Fitzpatrick has started more games than most not named Frank Gore lol
Doesn't make him more valuable.

[moishetreats]

If you had both Burrow and Dobbins for their entire careers, I'm willing to bet just about anything that Burrow would start far more games for you than Dobbins. And Burrow could also be reallllly good.

In a draft, you take the best player. That's how you set yourself up for sustained success. Don't worry about need in May. If you simply have better players, then you'll be able to trade from strength (rather than desperation) to address your need.

Burrow is simply the better SF player. I'd draft him without a second though... at 1.01.

Well yea, Ryan Fitzpatrick has started more games than most not named Frank Gore lol
Doesn't make him more valuable.

Oh, please . Fitzpatrick was a seventh-round draft choice. You're not comparing Jake Luton with Dobbins. You're comparing Burrow with Dobbins.

[joeya2001]

If you had both Burrow and Dobbins for their entire careers, I'm willing to bet just about anything that Burrow would start far more games for you than Dobbins. And Burrow could also be reallllly good.

In a draft, you take the best player. That's how you set yourself up for sustained success. Don't worry about need in May. If you simply have better players, then you'll be able to trade from strength (rather than desperation) to address your need.

Burrow is simply the better SF player. I'd draft him without a second though... at 1.01.

Well yea, Ryan Fitzpatrick has started more games than most not named Frank Gore lol
Doesn't make him more valuable.

Oh, please . Fitzpatrick was a seventh-round draft choice. You're not comparing Jake Luton with Dobbins. You're comparing Burrow with Dobbins.

ok fine lets compare Jamarcus Russell to A. Peterson.

or does that not fit your narrative.

Point is in a 10 team league QB's after doing research don't need to be taken 1.01. sure if the QB position is shallow, but in theory 10 teams can have 3 QB's each.

12 team leagues not so much.

to many people stress QB's in SF in small leagues to much and I thing your are guiding people to failure

[moishetreats]

Well yea, Ryan Fitzpatrick has started more games than most not named Frank Gore lol
Doesn't make him more valuable.

Oh, please . Fitzpatrick was a seventh-round draft choice. You're not comparing Jake Luton with Dobbins. You're comparing Burrow with Dobbins.

ok fine lets compare Jamarcus Russell to A. Peterson.

or does that not fit your narrative.

Point is in a 10 team league QB's after doing research don't need to be taken 1.01. sure if the QB position is shallow, but in theory 10 teams can have 3 QB's each.

12 team leagues not so much.

to many people stress QB's in SF in small leagues to much and I thing your are guiding people to failure

Yup, AP was better. Of course, in 2012, Trent Richardson, Doug Martin, and David Wilson were the 3 RBs drafted in the first round. Luck, RGIII, and Tannehill were the three* QBs. I sure hope that you didn't take an RB ahead of Luck or even Tannehill at this point!!

Obviously, there will be years when the QB hits and RB misses and years when the RB hits and when the QB misses. And, yes, in all leagues and all formats, I had Barkley #1 overall a couple of years ago.

But, a QB who hits is almost always going to be more valuable and more valuable for longer than an RB who hits. Of course there is Barkley and CMC and AP, but they are exceptions. If you consider BOTH Burrow and CEH/JT to be top prospects at their position (and that neither CEH nor JT is a Barkley-type prospect), then I'd go with the QB under almost all circumstances.

It's a hard lesson that I learned in 2017. I took Joe Mixon at #2 overall (Fournette went #1) ahead of Trubisky (woohoo!), Watson, and Mahomes.


*Brandon Weeden was, too. But, I don't consider the Browns seriously when looking at their QB decisions pre-Mayfield.

[trader_nation]

Only a super fish would take burrows 1st overall in a 10 team team league. It doesn't matter what you think of borrows or anyone else, that's crazy town.