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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby FiremanEd » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:34 am

Jigga94 wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:31 am
NWABCS wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:07 am Not to hijack this thread but, what about SF rankings? Cause I gots me some 1s and I already have offers for others
I'd expect something like

Burrow/Tua
JT/CEH/Dobbins
Jeudy/Lamb//Ruggs
Herbert/Akers
Swift/Reagor/Jefferson
Higgins/Aiyuk/Mims
Love/Hurts
Claypool/Pittman/Shenault/Hamler
For SF i think I have it along the lines of:

Burrow / Tua
JT / CEH / Dobbins
Swift / Akers / Jeudy / Lamb
Herbert
Ruggs / Reagor / Jefferson
Higgins / Aiyuk / Mims / Pittman
Claypool / Shenault / Love

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:42 am

No way I'm passing on some of these RB's for Tua in a SF. He has no rushing upside, and major injury concerns. He doesn't have top 5 upside for me, and a few of these RB's do.
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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby chalorpas » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:49 am

1. CEH
2. Taylor
3. Akers
4. Dobbins
5. Swift
6. Lamb
7. Jeudy
8. Reagor
9. Jefferson
10. Vaughn
11. Ruggs
12. Mims

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:54 am

SF

Burrow is tier 1 and 1.01 by himself.

Tua slots in behind JT and CEH and is even with the rest of the big name RBs/WRs

Herbert is a late 1st, around 10th - 14th overall.

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby jenkins.math » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:57 am

JT/CEH
Dobbins
Swift
Akers
Jeudy
Jefferson
Lamb
Vaughn
Ruggs/Reagor
Higgins/Mims/Pittman

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby psfox2010 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:02 am

1.01 CEH
1.02 Taylor
1.03 Dobbins
1.04 Akers
1.05 Swift
1.06 Reagor
1.07 Jefferson
1.08 Lamb
1.09 Vaughn
1.10 Ruggs
1.11 Jeudy
1.12 Higgins
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QB: Allen, Watson, Fields
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Harris Chubb
WR: Ridley, Cooper, Thielen, M. Thomas, D. Smith, Boyd E. Moore, R. Moore, Reagor, St. Brown
TE: Kelce, Fant, Engram
Defense: Denver
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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:49 am

First off, it’s always good to see different rankings because it can help you look at things differently, sometimes, with that being said, I think a lot of people are too high on Akers and way too low on J.Jeudy & C.Lamb. Akers, although talented, is going to a team with a really sub-par offensive line and he’ll still be in competition with D.Henderson for touches. I don’t know if people are forgetting these are dynasty rankings when evaluating Jeudy and especially Lamb. In Dallas, there’s 166 targets vacated when Cobb/Witten left, Jarwin will get some of those but Lamb is going to get plenty his rookie season and keep in mind, Gallup only has 2 years left on his rookie deal. As for Jeudy, much like Lamb in Dallas, is going to get favorable coverage, due to Sutton, Fant etc.

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby timmahawk » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:56 am

1.01 CEH
1.02 Dobbins
1.03 Taylor
1.04 Akers
1.05 Swift
1.06 Jeudy
1.07 Lamb
1.08 Reagor
1.09 Vaughn
1.10 Ruggs
1.11 Pittman
1.12 Mims

I absolutely overvalue RBs as I believe the value is there to take a RB that has a good chance at getting touches and to parlay that into a future trade for a WR.

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:13 pm

Cowboysfan33 wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:49 am First off, it’s always good to see different rankings because it can help you look at things differently, sometimes, with that being said, I think a lot of people are too high on Akers and way too low on J.Jeudy & C.Lamb. Akers, although talented, is going to a team with a really sub-par offensive line and he’ll still be in competition with D.Henderson for touches. I don’t know if people are forgetting these are dynasty rankings when evaluating Jeudy and especially Lamb. In Dallas, there’s 166 targets vacated when Cobb/Witten left, Jarwin will get some of those but Lamb is going to get plenty his rookie season and keep in mind, Gallup only has 2 years left on his rookie deal. As for Jeudy, much like Lamb in Dallas, is going to get favorable coverage, due to Sutton, Fant etc.
The same argument goes the other way, the Rams O-line isn't locked into being bad forever and O-lines can go from bad to good or good to bad pretty quickly. RBs produce a lot more value than WRs during the period of their rookie contracts on average, and come in near peak value and production which is not typically the case with WRs. The rankings on Lamb and Jeudy are in no way a knock on them, it's just a reflection of the strength of this class as a whole and the value of rookie RBs vs rookie WRs.

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:36 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:13 pm
Cowboysfan33 wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:49 am First off, it’s always good to see different rankings because it can help you look at things differently, sometimes, with that being said, I think a lot of people are too high on Akers and way too low on J.Jeudy & C.Lamb. Akers, although talented, is going to a team with a really sub-par offensive line and he’ll still be in competition with D.Henderson for touches. I don’t know if people are forgetting these are dynasty rankings when evaluating Jeudy and especially Lamb. In Dallas, there’s 166 targets vacated when Cobb/Witten left, Jarwin will get some of those but Lamb is going to get plenty his rookie season and keep in mind, Gallup only has 2 years left on his rookie deal. As for Jeudy, much like Lamb in Dallas, is going to get favorable coverage, due to Sutton, Fant etc.
The same argument goes the other way, the Rams O-line isn't locked into being bad forever and O-lines can go from bad to good or good to bad pretty quickly. RBs produce a lot more value than WRs during the period of their rookie contracts on average, and come in near peak value and production which is not typically the case with WRs. The rankings on Lamb and Jeudy are in no way a knock on them, it's just a reflection of the strength of this class as a whole and the value of rookie RBs vs rookie WRs.
That’s a good point about the strength of the class, definitely agree on that point, in most years, Jeudy/Lamb would probably both be in the top 3. Personally, I’ve had pretty good luck with loading up with WRs on my dynasty teams but that can vary with people because of their league starting requirements, settings, etc. Maybe I’ll change my mind some on Akers, but right now, I have him below Jeudy/Lamb.

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby the_lung » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:12 pm

I’m still shaking my head at all the people with Clyde-Edwards-Helaire as your 1.01 pick, based almost entirely on landing spot alone. I think that many of these folks are new to dynasty fantasy football or have a poor memory. Here’s a list going back only just ten years of running backs who were drafted highly, around the same spot as CEH, and thought to be gifted into “primo landing spots” where there was very little competition for carries. Many of these backs weren’t thought of as elite talents or running back prospects before their respective NFL Drafts. How many of these panned out?
  • Rashad Penny, #27 Seattle Seahawks
  • TJ. Yeldon, #36 Jacksonville Jaguars
  • Ameer Abdullah, #54 Detroit Lions
  • Bishop Sankey, #54 Tennessee Titans
  • Giovani Bernard, #37 Cincinnati Bengals
  • Montee Ball, #58 Denver Broncos
  • David Wilson, #32 NY Giants
  • Ryan Williams, #38 Arizona Cardinals
  • Mikel Leshoure, #57 Detroit Lions
  • Ryan Mathews, #12 San Diego Chargers
  • Ben Tate, #58 Houston Texans
  • Jahvid Best, #30 Detroit Lions
  • Donald Brown, #30 Indianapolis Colts
  • Beanie Wells, #31 Arizona Cardinals
Do we need to go back another ten years? :think:

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby Lord_Varys » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:23 pm

the_lung wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:12 pm I’m still shaking my head at all the people with Clyde-Edwards-Helaire as your 1.01 pick, based almost entirely on landing spot alone.
And, you know, talent.

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby Lord_Varys » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:23 pm

chalorpas wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:49 am 1. CEH
2. Taylor
3. Akers
4. Dobbins
5. Swift
6. Lamb
7. Jeudy
8. Reagor
9. Jefferson
10. Vaughn
11. Ruggs
12. Mims
Love this list. I have only minor hairs to split but this is the best one I've seen in this thread.

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:24 pm

the_lung wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:12 pm I’m still shaking my head at all the people with Clyde-Edwards-Helaire as your 1.01 pick, based almost entirely on landing spot alone. I think that many of these folks are new to dynasty fantasy football or have a poor memory. Here’s a list going back only just ten years of running backs who were drafted highly, around the same spot as CEH, and thought to be gifted into “primo landing spots” where there was very little competition for carries. Many of these backs weren’t thought of as elite talents or running back prospects before their respective NFL Drafts. How many of these panned out?
  • Rashad Penny, #27 Seattle Seahawks
  • TJ. Yeldon, #36 Jacksonville Jaguars
  • Ameer Abdullah, #54 Detroit Lions
  • Bishop Sankey, #54 Tennessee Titans
  • Giovani Bernard, #37 Cincinnati Bengals
  • Montee Ball, #58 Denver Broncos
  • David Wilson, #32 NY Giants
  • Ryan Williams, #38 Arizona Cardinals
  • Mikel Leshoure, #57 Detroit Lions
  • Ryan Mathews, #12 San Diego Chargers
  • Ben Tate, #58 Houston Texans
  • Jahvid Best, #30 Detroit Lions
  • Donald Brown, #30 Indianapolis Colts
  • Beanie Wells, #31 Arizona Cardinals
Do we need to go back another ten years? :think:
I'm with you but just want to raise one counterpoint. How many of those above offenses were as prolific as the Chiefs? I think CEH fits what they want pretty well and should be a good fantasy RB. Not my 1.01, but he still gets a bump due to landing spot, regardless.

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Re: Post Draft Top 12 Rankings

Postby Calroid » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:25 pm

Most of those teams had nowhere near the offensive capabilities of KC.

Donald Brown playing for Indy would be a fair comparison.


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