2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby NWABCS » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:23 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:22 pm
murphysxm wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:55 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:52 pm

Miami and KC definitely possibilities... It feels like a game of chicken. With no one taking one yet, they may as well wait
There is zero chance KC takes a RB. zero
This aged well lol.
Hey I made that joke two pages ago :lol: :lol:


So let's say Miami takes Swift or Taylor, are they number 1? What if Miami takes Dobbins?
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1/2 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds

12 team
1/2 ppr
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF

QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, Puca Nacua, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.02, 4.04, 4.09, 4.10, 4.11, 5.01 5.05
2025 picks: three 2nds

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby Lord_Varys » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:55 am

CEH is 1.01.

If he would've broken out as a rookie, he'd have been in a tier with Swift. Collectively we try to protect our egos, thinking that since we didn't spot him sooner, there must be a reason why, and we'll still try to get JT or Swift ahead of him. Breakout age isn't that important though. He's a 1st round pick on the best offense in the league that makes RB1s out of dust. A+ receiver. A contact balance. A/A+ elusiveness. Doesn't need a great 40. This is the one, boys.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby Mike11 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:11 am

Lord_Varys wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:55 am CEH is 1.01.

If he would've broken out as a rookie, he'd have been in a tier with Swift. Collectively we try to protect our egos, thinking that since we didn't spot him sooner, there must be a reason why, and we'll still try to get JT or Swift ahead of him. Breakout age isn't that important though. He's a 1st round pick on the best offense in the league that makes RB1s out of dust. A+ receiver. A contact balance. A/A+ elusiveness. Doesn't need a great 40. This is the one, boys.
I agree, he’s also still 20 FYI. He’s got tons of room to grow with KC. I liked him third best but have to move him up. Only spot still left to compete is Baltimore, Miami, TB, Pitt (maybe?). TB and Miami are good from a touch perspective but, BAL and Pitt would still have some competition. Ingram until after this year and James Connor who would still be a factor.

The door is wide open for CEH, at some point we have to say, the games about scoring points. That’s what CEH will do, I still love some of these other guys but that’s my thought at 1.01.

It would be a different story if CEH went round three to KC and all the other RBs were gone. He didn’t, the cards didn’t fall like that and he was the first RB taken (keep in my 31 teams essentially just passed, CEH wasn’t just taken 18 by a believer).
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:32 am

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:45 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:35 pm
Cult of Dionysus wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:24 pm Things I'm looking for today;

When and where will Tua go.

Ditto for Herbert.

Jeudy/Ceedee/Riggs go where.

Will a RB go top 32?

What other WRs go top 32, if any.

Is Jordan Love going top 32?
There will be a minimum of 5 WRs taken 1st round.
CD, Jeudy Riggs, Jackson and who is the #5?
Called it, along with Reagor and Jefferson going in the 1st.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby Oddball456 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:47 am

Needalife wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:25 pm Snap reaction:
1.01 CEH
1.02 Swift
1.03 Taylor
1.04 Lamb
1.05 Dobbins
1.06 Ruggs
1.07 Jeudy
1.08 Jefferson
1.09 Akers
1.10 Reagor
1.11 Alyuk
1.12 Higgins

Holy crap.... STACKED DRAFT CLASS. Still have Mims, Edwards, T Johnson, Dillon, and the QBs. Oh boy...
Glad I have the 11th, 13th, and 16th picks. IDP so a couple of these guys might drop even more. :)

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:56 am

Yeah, my Superflex 1.10-1.12s just spiked in value.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby mgscott » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:07 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:54 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:47 pm Love the CEH spot in KC. Lamb in Dallas is great. If he hits his ceiling, could take the WR1 spot from Cooper, maybe teach Coop a thing or two about playing physical. Interesting about the talk of playing Cooper a heavy number of slot snaps.

Tier 1-
CEH, KC
Tier 2-
Lamb, Dallas
Jeudy, Denver
Jefferson, Minn
Ruggs, Oakland
Tier 3-
Reagor, Philly
Aiyuk, San Fran
Cooper in the slot would be great for him. I don't think Lamb is nearly as talented as Coop. I don't like the spot for him, personally. He's not going to bully any corners in the NFL at 198 pounds. People were thinking Lamb would be drafted to be the guy, and he's not in that position. I was low on Ceedee before, and even lower after this spot.
100% agree here FF. Not nearly s high on Lamb as others. Talented enough to help Dak and probably Cooper, but Cooper is their WR1, whether he is in the slot or not.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby Servo » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:39 am

Needalife wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:25 pm Snap reaction:
1.01 CEH
1.02 Swift
1.03 Taylor
1.04 Lamb
1.05 Dobbins
1.06 Ruggs
1.07 Jeudy
1.08 Jefferson
1.09 Akers
1.10 Reagor
1.11 Alyuk
1.12 Higgins

Holy crap.... STACKED DRAFT CLASS. Still have Mims, Edwards, T Johnson, Dillon, and the QBs. Oh boy...
League rules dependent, yes, CEH is a top pick right now but anyone going to TB could easily change that (and they drafted an OL :ewink:)

Lamb is a tough one, classic argument of do you draft the talent over his situation? Reagor, Jefferson, Ruggs and maybe even Aiyuk are stepping into clearer, early producing roles 100%. Will talent rise to the top? Could be good news for late 1st owners. Honestly wouldn't surprise me to see someone go for the idea of immediate production over Lamb.

Jeudy, not 100% ideal and that offense has a lot of mouths now but let's be honest, it was Sutton with 0 WR help opposite him. The rest is now on if Drew Lock is any good and can sling it.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby NWABCS » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:57 am

How many WR and RB do we think go in 2nd and 3rd rounds?
12 team
1/2 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds

12 team
1/2 ppr
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF

QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, Puca Nacua, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB
2024 picks: 1.10, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.02, 4.04, 4.09, 4.10, 4.11, 5.01 5.05
2025 picks: three 2nds

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby jenkins.math » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:58 am

Am I the only one that didn't like the way round 1 played out for WRs?

Ruggs to LV is fine I guess. I never saw him as an alpha, but maybe I was wrong.
Jeudy to Denver is a bummer to Sutton owners, but Sutton will also eat into Jeudy's numbers. Not to mention their QB situation doesn't seem stable.
Lamb to Dallas is good for Dak, but with the money they paid Zeke, they aren't going to air it out that much to sustain relevance for Coop, Gallup, and Lamb.
Reagor to Philly was shocking. I thought Jefferson was a much better player than Reagor. I'm not a huge Reagor guy, but if you believe in him, this might be the best landing spot for all the WRs.
Jefferson to Minny is probably about as good as it gets. Should slide into the Diggs role immediately and could have the best rookie year out of all of these guys.
Aiyuk reminds me of Deebo somewhat. I trust in Kyle Shanahan, but that pick just seemed repetitive to me.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby Needalife » Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:43 am

Here is some fun propaganda. Definitely adds to CEH as 1.01 argument for me.
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RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:59 am

Mike11 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:11 am
Lord_Varys wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:55 am CEH is 1.01.

If he would've broken out as a rookie, he'd have been in a tier with Swift. Collectively we try to protect our egos, thinking that since we didn't spot him sooner, there must be a reason why, and we'll still try to get JT or Swift ahead of him. Breakout age isn't that important though. He's a 1st round pick on the best offense in the league that makes RB1s out of dust. A+ receiver. A contact balance. A/A+ elusiveness. Doesn't need a great 40. This is the one, boys.
I agree, he’s also still 20 FYI. He’s got tons of room to grow with KC. I liked him third best but have to move him up. Only spot still left to compete is Baltimore, Miami, TB, Pitt (maybe?). TB and Miami are good from a touch perspective but, BAL and Pitt would still have some competition. Ingram until after this year and James Connor who would still be a factor.

The door is wide open for CEH, at some point we have to say, the games about scoring points. That’s what CEH will do, I still love some of these other guys but that’s my thought at 1.01.

It would be a different story if CEH went round three to KC and all the other RBs were gone. He didn’t, the cards didn’t fall like that and he was the first RB taken (keep in my 31 teams essentially just passed, CEH wasn’t just taken 18 by a believer).
He's 21. I think CEH should be in consideration for 1.01. There is not going to be a consensus 1.01 this year. There is no Zeke/Barkley level prospect, so people just making blanket statements like "he's the 1.01" like it's set in stone for all are being disingenuous. He can be their 1.01, but it's not something everybody is going to agree on like the Barkley year.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby Servo » Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:40 am

Maybe some silver lining on CeeDee:

- Amari's contract has no guaranteed money after 2021
- Gallup's contract is out after 2021
- Dallas has CeeDee for 5 years

Again, not an ideal landing spot with the chance of two other guys being locked in for two more seasons but could create a good buying opportunity for a pretty talented guy.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby dustyroads » Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:42 am

jenkins.math wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:58 am Am I the only one that didn't like the way round 1 played out for WRs?

Ruggs to LV is fine I guess. I never saw him as an alpha, but maybe I was wrong.
Jeudy to Denver is a bummer to Sutton owners, but Sutton will also eat into Jeudy's numbers. Not to mention their QB situation doesn't seem stable.
Lamb to Dallas is good for Dak, but with the money they paid Zeke, they aren't going to air it out that much to sustain relevance for Coop, Gallup, and Lamb.
Reagor to Philly was shocking. I thought Jefferson was a much better player than Reagor. I'm not a huge Reagor guy, but if you believe in him, this might be the best landing spot for all the WRs.
Jefferson to Minny is probably about as good as it gets. Should slide into the Diggs role immediately and could have the best rookie year out of all of these guys.
Aiyuk reminds me of Deebo somewhat. I trust in Kyle Shanahan, but that pick just seemed repetitive to me.
I'd agree. I can't say I hated all the landing spots, but more so just... confused? Lol. I don't think it provided a ton of clarity. I was never a Ruggs guy either, so agree there.

I had Jeudy as my WR1 so I wasn't really happy about Denver, but the more I thought about it, I don't think I would call it a bad spot. Lock didn't look terrible in his starts last year, and was well regarded coming out, and looks like won't have the pressure/drama of a camp battle this off season (should we have one) to deal with. Plus Shurmur has a decent history of coaching up young QBs with solid results (McNabb, Bradford, Foles) and runs a solid 11 personnel offensive scheme and I think Sutton and Jeudy will complement one another in it.

Lamb I had as number 2 predraft, and I think he would stay there. Short term he might not bring a ton of production, but eventually Gallup move on IMO, and if they keep Dak, he will at least be a 1b to Cooper. Cooper also seems to disappear for entire games at times (6 games under 10 fantasy points last season, 5 under 7 points) and I think there will be windows where Lamb can step up and make a place for himself in the offense.

I am a Reagor guy myself, had him as my 5th WR, and I think this would move him to 3 for me as I do see it as the best landing spot.

Diggs owner here, and after watching every Minnesota game the past couple years and being super frustrated, I hated that spot for any WR. Really, say what you will about Diggs being a drama queen, I think if he never complained he wouldn't have gotten those couple of high scoring games last season where Cousins was purposefully feeding him. Those games really boosted his total numbers and he would have finished even lower then WR24 in PPR without them. I don't think Jefferson is as good as Diggs, and certainly won't be a squeaky wheel his rookie season to demand extra looks. I don't see that working out well, pending a coaching/scheme change in Minnesota.

I'm at a loss on Aiyuk as a player at times, and on how he'll fit into that offense. It's hard not to believe in Shannahan, but again, I agree with you. The pick seemed repetitive and while the talent might be there, I don't think the offense is going to be run through any individual player on a specific basis outside Kittle. Otherwise, I see it as whoever is hot that day/half/quarter/drive lol... will get the ball.

Overall, outside of Lamb and Jeudy, who I think are talent wise on another level from the rest of this class, so far I think I'd prefer two of these day 2 guys to 1 of any of the other day 1 guys, if only to spread out my risk/chances of missing/hitting and would looking to just trade back and acquire more picks in a rookie draft.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft - Reactions & Analysis

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:48 am

Servo wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:40 am Maybe some silver lining on CeeDee:

- Amari's contract has no guaranteed money after 2021
- Gallup's contract is out after 2021
- Dallas has CeeDee for 5 years

Again, not an ideal landing spot with the chance of two other guys being locked in for two more seasons but could create a good buying opportunity for a pretty talented guy.
I disagree on it not being an ideal landing spot, I think it's perfect for him long-term, and if that means I can get him a bit later in drafts now even better. Gallup won't get a 2nd contract in Dallas, and Lamb will definitely be the #2 option by year 2 if not before the end of his rookie year. Having other good WRs on the team is far more of a positive than a negative because they draw coverage away from each other.

Lamb is still my #1 WR and a top 5 pick.


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