Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby skinfanjon » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 am

dlf_mikeh wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet

It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL

Mike's thing is RBs. Mine is WRs
In that case, are you open to critical feedback like myself? ;)

You said this not even a year ago about Miller:
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:17 amwas offered 1.10 for him. not sure I want that deal. I dont really like any wrs better than him at that spot
And obviously there were a ton of great WRs in last years draft while Miller went on to disappoint. So my question is: What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
Yeah, WRs are his thing like closing out Super Bowl leads is Kyle Shanahans. Last year this dolt was hyping Harry, JJAW, and Isabella as his favorite WRs. If I was that bad at scouting WRs, I'd probably come up with a purely analytical system too. Unfortunately, you cant trust the cook of this data and it doesnt actually say what he claims it does. He was the loudest and wrong-est last year and now hes just vomiting up a bowl of numbers and claiming they reveal something significant.

Mike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.

On second thought, it would be pretty entertaining and theres nothing else to do....

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:11 pm

skinfanjon wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 am
dlf_mikeh wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet

It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL

Mike's thing is RBs. Mine is WRs
In that case, are you open to critical feedback like myself? ;)

You said this not even a year ago about Miller:
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:17 amwas offered 1.10 for him. not sure I want that deal. I dont really like any wrs better than him at that spot
And obviously there were a ton of great WRs in last years draft while Miller went on to disappoint. So my question is: What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
Yeah, WRs are his thing like closing out Super Bowl leads is Kyle Shanahans. Last year this dolt was hyping Harry, JJAW, and Isabella as his favorite WRs. If I was that bad at scouting WRs, I'd probably come up with a purely analytical system too. Unfortunately, you cant trust the cook of this data and it doesnt actually say what he claims it does. He was the loudest and wrong-est last year and now hes just vomiting up a bowl of numbers and claiming they reveal something significant.

Mike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.

On second thought, it would be pretty entertaining and theres nothing else to do....
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby MEuRaH » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:00 pm

Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:26 am
dlf_mikeh wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL
You used to like Miller. What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
I ultimately did trade him away. My analysis of the spreadsheet has evolved a lot, since I only created it about a year ago (April 9, 2019 was when I first started diving into the concept)

I can PM you the discussion on the spreadsheet. Not worth rehashing everything here, but its evolved quite a bit over time and this weekend I was able to get it to spit out actual numbers for each player.

For example: Anthony Miller had a 25% chance of hitting and a 79% chance at not hitting
A hit is defined as having at least 1 fantasy season in the top 24 for PPR.

This years draft class is incomplete until the draft is completed
I said it in private but I'll put it here. I hate statistical analysis for RBs but I love it for WRs. I love the work you've put into this and I'm excited to see how 2020 pans out. When do you think you'll have it filled in?
skinfanjon wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 amMike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.
lol well I think there's some merit to an analytical approach when it comes to WRs. Can we at least see where 2020 goes before we get out some pitch forks? :P
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:37 pm

dlf_mikeh wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:00 pm
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:26 am
dlf_mikeh wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
You used to like Miller. What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
I ultimately did trade him away. My analysis of the spreadsheet has evolved a lot, since I only created it about a year ago (April 9, 2019 was when I first started diving into the concept)

I can PM you the discussion on the spreadsheet. Not worth rehashing everything here, but its evolved quite a bit over time and this weekend I was able to get it to spit out actual numbers for each player.

For example: Anthony Miller had a 25% chance of hitting and a 79% chance at not hitting
A hit is defined as having at least 1 fantasy season in the top 24 for PPR.

This years draft class is incomplete until the draft is completed
I said it in private but I'll put it here. I hate statistical analysis for RBs but I love it for WRs. I love the work you've put into this and I'm excited to see how 2020 pans out. When do you think you'll have it filled in?
As soon as the draft is done I'll have it filled in. Let's be honest though, I'll be updating it nightly during the draft process. :lol:

The link should take you to the most updated copy always

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Cameron Giles » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:08 pm

Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet

It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL

Mike's thing is RBs. Mine is WRs
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby CGW » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:16 pm

This is going to be a great thread in 5 years. Not the Anthony Miller part, just the rest of it.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
| 1stx3, 3rdx3

10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:48 pm

skinfanjon wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 am
dlf_mikeh wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:13 am Anthony Miller was a bust on my WR spreadsheet

It does a great job ruling people out and has a higher hit rate than the NFL

Mike's thing is RBs. Mine is WRs
In that case, are you open to critical feedback like myself? ;)

You said this not even a year ago about Miller:
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:17 amwas offered 1.10 for him. not sure I want that deal. I dont really like any wrs better than him at that spot
And obviously there were a ton of great WRs in last years draft while Miller went on to disappoint. So my question is: What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
Yeah, WRs are his thing like closing out Super Bowl leads is Kyle Shanahans. Last year this dolt was hyping Harry, JJAW, and Isabella as his favorite WRs. If I was that bad at scouting WRs, I'd probably come up with a purely analytical system too. Unfortunately, you cant trust the cook of this data and it doesnt actually say what he claims it does. He was the loudest and wrong-est last year and now hes just vomiting up a bowl of numbers and claiming they reveal something significant.

Mike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.

On second thought, it would be pretty entertaining and theres nothing else to do....
Can you provide reference?
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:56 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:48 pm
skinfanjon wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 am
dlf_mikeh wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:17 am
In that case, are you open to critical feedback like myself? ;)

You said this not even a year ago about Miller:

And obviously there were a ton of great WRs in last years draft while Miller went on to disappoint. So my question is: What changed between then and now? What is this spreadsheet you speak of? How did you create it? What does it say about current rookies in this draft class?
Yeah, WRs are his thing like closing out Super Bowl leads is Kyle Shanahans. Last year this dolt was hyping Harry, JJAW, and Isabella as his favorite WRs. If I was that bad at scouting WRs, I'd probably come up with a purely analytical system too. Unfortunately, you cant trust the cook of this data and it doesnt actually say what he claims it does. He was the loudest and wrong-est last year and now hes just vomiting up a bowl of numbers and claiming they reveal something significant.

Mike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.

On second thought, it would be pretty entertaining and theres nothing else to do....
Can you provide reference?
Actually, AJB was my wr1 and Harry was my WR2. I was very high on JJAW and still am. Isabella I was excited about and did draft him everywhere I could. Jury is still out but it doesnt look good. I'm confident in my WR analysis in the end. Skinfanjon wants to troll/hate, and unfortunately that's all he has to offer. Other sites and other posters have already caught onto that. I'm flattered he has chosen me as his target, I truly am

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby skinfanjon » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:16 pm

Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:56 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:48 pm
skinfanjon wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:47 am

Yeah, WRs are his thing like closing out Super Bowl leads is Kyle Shanahans. Last year this dolt was hyping Harry, JJAW, and Isabella as his favorite WRs. If I was that bad at scouting WRs, I'd probably come up with a purely analytical system too. Unfortunately, you cant trust the cook of this data and it doesnt actually say what he claims it does. He was the loudest and wrong-est last year and now hes just vomiting up a bowl of numbers and claiming they reveal something significant.

Mike, you actually know some things about the RB position and make compelling arguements based on them. But I swear to god, if the two of you start a back and forth your egos are going to rip a hole in the fabric of time and space. In the interest of all humanity please dont go down that road.

On second thought, it would be pretty entertaining and theres nothing else to do....
Can you provide reference?
Actually, AJB was my wr1 and Harry was my WR2. I was very high on JJAW and still am. Isabella I was excited about and did draft him everywhere I could. Jury is still out but it doesnt look good. I'm confident in my WR analysis in the end. Skinfanjon wants to troll/hate, and unfortunately that's all he has to offer. Other sites and other posters have already caught onto that. I'm flattered he has chosen me as his target, I truly am
"Fell from WR1 to WR 8 for me"

"Wont be drafting him unless he falls to round 2 or even late round 1"

Not gonna link to another board, but these are direct quotes from you.

Ironic that track record doesnt matter much to you as you said a couple pages ago :lol:

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:26 pm

skinfanjon wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:16 pm
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:56 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:48 pm

Can you provide reference?
Actually, AJB was my wr1 and Harry was my WR2. I was very high on JJAW and still am. Isabella I was excited about and did draft him everywhere I could. Jury is still out but it doesnt look good. I'm confident in my WR analysis in the end. Skinfanjon wants to troll/hate, and unfortunately that's all he has to offer. Other sites and other posters have already caught onto that. I'm flattered he has chosen me as his target, I truly am
"Fell from WR1 to WR 8 for me"

"Wont be drafting him unless he falls to round 2 or even late round 1"

Not gonna link to another board, but these are direct quotes from you.

Ironic that track record doesnt matter much to you as you said a couple pages ago :lol:
I was talking him down, similarly to how I talked Henderson down prior to my draft. I have league mates that frequent several forums. I dont need to prove anything to you, or anyone for that matter, but especially you.

I find it funny that you are so obsessed with me
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby skinfanjon » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:29 pm

Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:26 pm
skinfanjon wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:16 pm
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:56 pm

Actually, AJB was my wr1 and Harry was my WR2. I was very high on JJAW and still am. Isabella I was excited about and did draft him everywhere I could. Jury is still out but it doesnt look good. I'm confident in my WR analysis in the end. Skinfanjon wants to troll/hate, and unfortunately that's all he has to offer. Other sites and other posters have already caught onto that. I'm flattered he has chosen me as his target, I truly am
"Fell from WR1 to WR 8 for me"

"Wont be drafting him unless he falls to round 2 or even late round 1"

Not gonna link to another board, but these are direct quotes from you.

Ironic that track record doesnt matter much to you as you said a couple pages ago :lol:
I was talking him down, similarly to how I talked Henderson down prior to my draft. I have league mates that frequent several forums. I dont need to prove anything to you, or anyone for that matter, but especially you.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Taking a page right out of Mike's book eh?

Lol what an absolute phoney.

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:31 pm

skinfanjon wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:29 pm
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:26 pm
skinfanjon wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:16 pm

"Fell from WR1 to WR 8 for me"

"Wont be drafting him unless he falls to round 2 or even late round 1"

Not gonna link to another board, but these are direct quotes from you.

Ironic that track record doesnt matter much to you as you said a couple pages ago :lol:
I was talking him down, similarly to how I talked Henderson down prior to my draft. I have league mates that frequent several forums. I dont need to prove anything to you, or anyone for that matter, but especially you.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Taking a page right out of Mike's book eh?

Lol what an absolute phoney.
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby skinfanjon » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:36 pm

Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:31 pm
skinfanjon wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:29 pm
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:26 pm

I was talking him down, similarly to how I talked Henderson down prior to my draft. I have league mates that frequent several forums. I dont need to prove anything to you, or anyone for that matter, but especially you.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Taking a page right out of Mike's book eh?

Lol what an absolute phoney.
This is a bad look for you, but unfortunately it is your every day look. You're obsessed with me, and it's sad, but funny at the same time.
I'm just pointing out bad info where I see it. Dont worry, I will give it a rest for awhile so that you can finish painting yourself into a corner on this draft class. Will be glad to compare my final rankings with you and we'll see what's what.

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby lic217 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:40 pm

I think the lack of social interactions due to covid19 is causing this.

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