Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

[MEuRaH]

I have Taylor in the 1.8 range and the 4th RB but don't really buy he is overrated.

Actually, this might be similar to how I have him. Most people have him as 1.01 or 1.02. I think 1.08 is reasonable (I haven't done my rankings yet) and to me a drop from a top 2 spot to top 8 is huge and the exact definition of overrated.

So we agree. It's just our definition of overrated that differs, lol.

[MEuRaH]

I never saw him pass block one time in any of the games I watched.

Doesn't mean he can't or is unable to learn . Will it possibly lead him to being only a two down guy year one ? Melvin Gordon had the same issues coming out as well and now he's pretty good 3 down guy.

I said this. I said he's smart and that he can learn, but taking time out of his first off-season to learn pass blocking when there are far bigger things he needs to work on is going to hinder his growth.

And again, pass blocking is the least of my concerns.

[MyTeam]

I need this post to be deleted because I need him to go 1.1 so I can take Swift and Dobbins 2 and 3.

Please stop informing the community of busts to try and ruin my draft.

[mgscott]

Not sure what games of his you watched, but I went back to watch some tape and the first two I looked at had him pass blocking. I can understand that you have other concerns you feel are more important, but saying he has never pass blocked kind of diminishes your credibility. I give him as a slight edge over the other top backs, but can understand why others don't. He definitely has a different running style than the others and would be dependent on the type of offensive scheme to be successful.

Thanks for the info, though, and I look forward to seeing your fill report.

[MEuRaH]

Not sure what games of his you watched, but I went back to watch some tape and the first two I looked at had him pass blocking.

LINK ME PLEASE? I've searched forever.

And for the record, maybe I need to say this in the original post, pass blocking is the least of my concerns. I'd still like to see his technique though.

[CGW]

Thanks for the preview! Will be an interesting year for rookie drafts for many reasons, but specifically the range of player rankings in the top 10.

[maxhyde]

A couple evaluators were impressed with his pass catching drills at his pro-day. The offense rarely passed at all.

Speed and size is his game and that generally works in the NFL...I guess we'll see. That said there will be no buy low opportunity in 2021 but that is more because owners always overcompensate for rookie RB's with splash plays. He'll make a couple great scoring runs and his stock will take years to come back to earth. If you want him you better draft him early

[Johnny B. Goode]

If Taylor is NOT the 1st RB off the board in the NFL draft, does he lose his 1.01 status solely on that?

[mgscott]

Not sure what games of his you watched, but I went back to watch some tape and the first two I looked at had him pass blocking.

LINK ME PLEASE? I've searched forever.

And for the record, maybe I need to say this in the original post, pass blocking is the least of my concerns. I'd still like to see his technique though.

I PM'd you a link, but here it is for others if wanted. The first game I looked at was 2019 vs Ohio State, but all he does there is chip an outside rusher, so I can understand not counting that. The main one is 2019 vs Iowa. At 1:24 a cut block of an outside rusher, at 3:07 he looks to pass block but when there is no-one there starts to go into a route, at 4:49 he assists on a pass block with a lineman, 5:18 looks like a 1 on 1 block up the middle on a blitzing linebacker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgVytqLfJ6A

And, yes, I understand pass blocking is one of the least of concerns for him, but this should at least show him doing it.

thanks

[Johnny B. Goode]

doesnt Waldman have video.of him pass blocking in his RSP? I swear I saw it there

[MrUbuto]

I need this post to be deleted because I need him to go 1.1 so I can take Swift and Dobbins 2 and 3.

Please stop informing the community of busts to try and ruin my draft.

You have them both over the wide outs?

[FantasyFreak]

If Taylor is NOT the 1st RB off the board in the NFL draft, does he lose his 1.01 status solely on that?

Not in my books. Not unless he drops to the third round or something. Tons of people still took Guice at 1.02, even though he was the 7th RB off the board. Probably not the best example, but injuries really cut Guice down, not his inability as a football player. If it's the difference between first and 2nd round, I say go with your guy. I took AJB over Hollywood last year, and don't regret it. People that took MT over Treadwell certainly don't. People that took Chubb over Penny and Michel are laughing, etc. etc.

[Johnny B. Goode]

If Taylor is NOT the 1st RB off the board in the NFL draft, does he lose his 1.01 status solely on that?

Not in my books. Not unless he drops to the third round or something. Tons of people still took Guice at 1.02, even though he was the 7th RB off the board. Probably not the best example, but injuries really cut Guice down, not his inability as a football player. If it's the difference between first and 2nd round, I say go with your guy. I took AJB over Hollywood last year, and don't regret it. People that took MT over Treadwell certainly don't. People that took Chubb over Penny and Michel are laughing, etc. etc.

I get it, but 1.01 has different standards, no? how often is the 1.01 not the guy with the highest draft capital at his position?

[PR0v3]

If Taylor is NOT the 1st RB off the board in the NFL draft, does he lose his 1.01 status solely on that?

I haven’t given anyone 1.01 status yet, so the draft will just be another piece in the puzzle. I’m certainly not anointing a guy a clear cut 1.01 if the NFL doesn’t see them that way. That’s not to say he won’t be my 1.01 if he isn’t the first RB off the board, but it won’t be a cut and dry decision.

[FantasyFreak]

If Taylor is NOT the 1st RB off the board in the NFL draft, does he lose his 1.01 status solely on that?

Not in my books. Not unless he drops to the third round or something. Tons of people still took Guice at 1.02, even though he was the 7th RB off the board. Probably not the best example, but injuries really cut Guice down, not his inability as a football player. If it's the difference between first and 2nd round, I say go with your guy. I took AJB over Hollywood last year, and don't regret it. People that took MT over Treadwell certainly don't. People that took Chubb over Penny and Michel are laughing, etc. etc.

I get it, but 1.01 has different standards, no? how often is the 1.01 not the guy with the highest draft capital at his position?

I mean my first example was 1.02, so it was the 7th player at his position at 1.02. With 1.01, take your guy IMO. It's a big pick for your Dynasty Team, don't make it solely on the fact he wasn't the first guy off the board at his position IMO. With his analytical profile, he's an all time type prospect analytically, so if he's the 2nd or 3rd RB off the board, I see no reason to downgrade him, personally. If you pay no attention to analytics, then I guess you might be more inclined to move him down. I could see an NFL team drafting CEH over him. If I were in charge I wouldn't do that, but I'm not going to let that affect my view on Taylor vs CEH, for instance.

I think he should come off as one of the top few backs. Having a pro day and others not having them helped, I think. JT followed up his strong showing receiving at the combine at his pro day. There are clips out there. Per Randy Moss:

At Wisconsin’s pro day, RB Jonathan Taylor @JayT23 looked like a WR on a couple of downfield routes. As a first-round prospect and with 6,000 yards rushing as a Badger, that’s pretty much all he has left to prove to NFL scouts.