This year will be a good test of your theory. Evans has 6 straight 1k seasons, through a variety of bad QBs.mullmania wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:47 pmI think Godwin is their best WR. Evans should be solid but not elite IMOCameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:41 am Wouldn't overthink it. Evans is their best receiver and they will get the ball to him at any level of the field.
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Re: Mike Evans in 2020
Evans can become Brady's TB version of Gronk. The guy will feast in the redzone.
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Re: Mike Evans in 2020
Evans will benefit from Brady’s accuracy and anticipation. Td #’s should be way up. Evans is the #1 in my mind with Godwin benefiting from (and doing very well with opportunity) def attention on Evans.
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Are we still running with the idea that Winston and Fitzmagic were bad? I get where they both struggled but for fantasy this can only be seen as a downgrade, it just seems like wishing that this will somehow be improved efficiency to counter the lower volume/big play ability.
I own Godwin so I would be pleasantly surprised if this is only a minor downgrade and call it a win.
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I'm not that certain. Brady is a better QB than Winston, even at this age. He's never had these types of WR's to throw to. I think that based on the fact that the team may be winning more, it might be a downgrade, but I still think the Bucs put up a ton of yards through the air with Brady. The guy was lethal when he had Randy Moss. It's not like he was ever a mobile QB, and his arm hasn't fallen off all that much. Through 16 games I can see 4500 yards easily. He put up over 4,000 last year throwing to Edelman and a bunch of scrubs. I think he hits 30 TD's, too.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Are we still running with the idea that Winston and Fitzmagic were bad? I get where they both struggled but for fantasy this can only be seen as a downgrade, it just seems like wishing that this will somehow be improved efficiency to counter the lower volume/big play ability.
I own Godwin so I would be pleasantly surprised if this is only a minor downgrade and call it a win.
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30 interceptions and 12 fumbles.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Are we still running with the idea that Winston and Fitzmagic were bad? I get where they both struggled but for fantasy this can only be seen as a downgrade, it just seems like wishing that this will somehow be improved efficiency to counter the lower volume/big play ability.
I own Godwin so I would be pleasantly surprised if this is only a minor downgrade and call it a win.
Lets be nice and take 22 INT's off that, and 8 fumbles - that was Brady's 2019 season - 8 ints and 4 fumbles.
Congratulations, your offense just got 30 extra offensive possessions!
Now add Tom's usual calling card of being elite at extending drives on 3rd and 4th down. Add one of the most QB-friendly coaches the league has ever seen, and now stir for flavour.
It is not as nuts as you seem to think.
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Re: Mike Evans in 2020
This is how I see it too. I know Arians and company is a different coaching staff than Belicheck/J.Mcdaniels, etc. but remember the Patriots never took their foot off the pedal, so to speak. Maybe the Bucs do the same thing, it wouldn’t surprise me at all, playing in the NFC South to see the Bucs score 40+, several times next season, especially 4 games against the Panthers & Falcons D and the Saints games will surely be high scoring too. I think Brady hits 30-35 TDS, fairly easily.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:25 pmI'm not that certain. Brady is a better QB than Winston, even at this age. He's never had these types of WR's to throw to. I think that based on the fact that the team may be winning more, it might be a downgrade, but I still think the Bucs put up a ton of yards through the air with Brady. The guy was lethal when he had Randy Moss. It's not like he was ever a mobile QB, and his arm hasn't fallen off all that much. Through 16 games I can see 4500 yards easily. He put up over 4,000 last year throwing to Edelman and a bunch of scrubs. I think he hits 30 TD's, too.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Are we still running with the idea that Winston and Fitzmagic were bad? I get where they both struggled but for fantasy this can only be seen as a downgrade, it just seems like wishing that this will somehow be improved efficiency to counter the lower volume/big play ability.
I own Godwin so I would be pleasantly surprised if this is only a minor downgrade and call it a win.
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Re: Mike Evans in 2020
I still don't see it, the good news is there won't be any speculation, it's happening and we will know for sure by seasons end. For now call me pessimistic as, short of seeing Brady throwing dragons around, I don't think it's happening. The guy is old and one of these years the cliff has to look surely!! (Says everyone every year)mild wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:33 pm30 interceptions and 12 fumbles.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Are we still running with the idea that Winston and Fitzmagic were bad? I get where they both struggled but for fantasy this can only be seen as a downgrade, it just seems like wishing that this will somehow be improved efficiency to counter the lower volume/big play ability.
I own Godwin so I would be pleasantly surprised if this is only a minor downgrade and call it a win.
Lets be nice and take 22 INT's off that, and 8 fumbles - that was Brady's 2019 season - 8 ints and 4 fumbles.
Congratulations, your offense just got 30 extra offensive possessions!
Now add Tom's usual calling card of being elite at extending drives on 3rd and 4th down. Add one of the most QB-friendly coaches the league has ever seen, and now stir for flavour.
It is not as nuts as you seem to think.
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That Brady to Moss connection was ages ago and a lot of the Edelman/White production was from short passes with yards after the catch added on. With a more efficient offense and an upgraded defense, Tampa Bay should see more positive game scripts which should lead to a lower volume of passes. There's a good chance that Evans could see a less productive season this year.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:25 pmI'm not that certain. Brady is a better QB than Winston, even at this age. He's never had these types of WR's to throw to. I think that based on the fact that the team may be winning more, it might be a downgrade, but I still think the Bucs put up a ton of yards through the air with Brady. The guy was lethal when he had Randy Moss. It's not like he was ever a mobile QB, and his arm hasn't fallen off all that much. Through 16 games I can see 4500 yards easily. He put up over 4,000 last year throwing to Edelman and a bunch of scrubs. I think he hits 30 TD's, too.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Are we still running with the idea that Winston and Fitzmagic were bad? I get where they both struggled but for fantasy this can only be seen as a downgrade, it just seems like wishing that this will somehow be improved efficiency to counter the lower volume/big play ability.
I own Godwin so I would be pleasantly surprised if this is only a minor downgrade and call it a win.
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Re: Mike Evans in 2020
Bring in AB and trade Evans? We’ve already seen a couple high profile WRs trades. And this NFL, they crazy. Doubt it but who knows?
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Re: Mike Evans in 2020
I think it's tough to expect Evans and /or Godwin to do BETTER as they both already had great seasons.
That said, I don't think they do much worse either. They have different strengths and I think Brady/Arians will find a way to use both. I also think Howard has a bounce back season too... No one is expecting Gronk, but I could see a decent TD total.
That said, I don't think they do much worse either. They have different strengths and I think Brady/Arians will find a way to use both. I also think Howard has a bounce back season too... No one is expecting Gronk, but I could see a decent TD total.
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Re: Mike Evans in 2020
It's definitely possible, although Evans missed a few games this year, so he could actually do better if he plays all 16. He's basically a lock for 1000 yards.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:57 pmThat Brady to Moss connection was ages ago and a lot of the Edelman/White production was from short passes with yards after the catch added on. With a more efficient offense and an upgraded defense, Tampa Bay should see more positive game scripts which should lead to a lower volume of passes. There's a good chance that Evans could see a less productive season this year.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:25 pmI'm not that certain. Brady is a better QB than Winston, even at this age. He's never had these types of WR's to throw to. I think that based on the fact that the team may be winning more, it might be a downgrade, but I still think the Bucs put up a ton of yards through the air with Brady. The guy was lethal when he had Randy Moss. It's not like he was ever a mobile QB, and his arm hasn't fallen off all that much. Through 16 games I can see 4500 yards easily. He put up over 4,000 last year throwing to Edelman and a bunch of scrubs. I think he hits 30 TD's, too.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Are we still running with the idea that Winston and Fitzmagic were bad? I get where they both struggled but for fantasy this can only be seen as a downgrade, it just seems like wishing that this will somehow be improved efficiency to counter the lower volume/big play ability.
I own Godwin so I would be pleasantly surprised if this is only a minor downgrade and call it a win.
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Re: Mike Evans in 2020
Any chance Arians moves Mike Evans to the Larry Fitzgerald style of chain moving/blocking monster if Brady really can't throw a deep ball anymore? Won't be as sexy as connecting with Winston on rainbows, but could be good for PPR, especially if the volume is there
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Re: Mike Evans in 2020
Yea Jameis->Brady is a clear downgrade, for fantasy purposes. Brady is not putting up anywhere near 5000/30 at this stage in his career. With Brady’s talent at this stage in his career, we’re probably looking at a 3900/24 season with a lower % of those passes going to WRs. This is all around bad news for Evans and Godwin as they’re probably 3 years away, at minimum, from the possibility of having a high powered passing attack.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Are we still running with the idea that Winston and Fitzmagic were bad? I get where they both struggled but for fantasy this can only be seen as a downgrade, it just seems like wishing that this will somehow be improved efficiency to counter the lower volume/big play ability.
I own Godwin so I would be pleasantly surprised if this is only a minor downgrade and call it a win.
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Re: Mike Evans in 2020
PR0v3 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:14 pmYea Jameis->Brady is a clear downgrade, for fantasy purposes. Brady is not putting up anywhere near 5000/30 at this stage in his career. With Brady’s talent at this stage in his career, we’re probably looking at a 3900/24 season with a lower % of those passes going to WRs. This is all around bad news for Evans and Godwin as they’re probably 3 years away, at minimum, from the possibility of having a high powered passing attack.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Are we still running with the idea that Winston and Fitzmagic were bad? I get where they both struggled but for fantasy this can only be seen as a downgrade, it just seems like wishing that this will somehow be improved efficiency to counter the lower volume/big play ability.
I own Godwin so I would be pleasantly surprised if this is only a minor downgrade and call it a win.
Why not? I mean, even if Jameis stayed, the chances o him throwing 5,000 again were slim, but Brady put up over 4000 yards and 24 TD"s without any outside threat last year at all. Why can't he significantly improve that when his passing weapons have also significantly improved? Brady will put up way more than 3900 yards and 24 TD's if he plays 16 games. I think 4500/30 is completely reasonable. Rivers threw for over 4.600 last year, and Brady's arm is better than his at this point. The difference was Rivers had better WR's than Brady last year, and the Pats had a really good D that meant they could run the ball in the 2nd half a lot more. TB's D is nowhere near what the Pats was last year.
BTW Godwin is a FA next year, too, so he's not locked in to TB.
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