CMC was drafted 8th overall. You're "at the time" part is a joke. He put up almost 2700 yards from scrimmage as a sophomore, and almost 1900 as a junior playing 3 less games. He won awards. He then tested far better athletically than CEH did. CEH did basically nothing until he was the lead RB in arguably the greatest offense of all time last year, his only productive year. You really haven't established any legitamate argument, here. The way I see it, you know you don't have one, and are just giving one to two sentence distractive posts in the hopes of winning an argument you've already lost.Farley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:12 pmAnd the discussion was centered around comparing CEH to CMC as PROSPECTS. So the “at the time” part is pretty relevant.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:05 pmAt the time yes. Now, no. Pretty simple to understand, if you’re not a troll that is...Farley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:00 pm
Nope.
Just someone who owns his mistakes and expects others to as well. And someone who actually appreciates your work as it offers great insight.
But we can’t be right with every prediction. And you are probably the last one on here who can say that CEH can’t be stylistically compared to CMC as a prospects because CMC was thought of as “special” after his combine. Simply put, you felt the opposite at the time.
Unfortunately reality is not as revisable as your model.
Obviously we all know CMC is a beast now.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
You going to put it on the line?FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:25 pmCMC was drafted 8th overall. He put up almost 2700 yards from scrimmage as a sophomore, and almost 1900 as a junior playing 3 less games. He then tested far better athletically than CEH did. CEH did basically nothing until he was the lead RB in arguably the greatest offense of all time last year, his only productive year. You really haven't established any legitamate argument, here. The way I see it, you know you don't have one, and are just giving one sentence distractive posts in the hopes of winning an argument you've already lost.Farley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:12 pmAnd the discussion was centered around comparing CEH to CMC as PROSPECTS. So the “at the time” part is pretty relevant.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:05 pm
At the time yes. Now, no. Pretty simple to understand, if you’re not a troll that is...
Obviously we all know CMC is a beast now.
You’re not even reading what’s being posted. And you’re just listing facts that you know everyone already knows.
It appears that some folks measure their success with championships and other with quantity of posts or perceived arguments won. In that case, you’re the champ bro.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Explain how they are similar prospects, because they aren't.Farley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:30 pmYou going to put it on the line?FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:25 pmCMC was drafted 8th overall. He put up almost 2700 yards from scrimmage as a sophomore, and almost 1900 as a junior playing 3 less games. He then tested far better athletically than CEH did. CEH did basically nothing until he was the lead RB in arguably the greatest offense of all time last year, his only productive year. You really haven't established any legitamate argument, here. The way I see it, you know you don't have one, and are just giving one sentence distractive posts in the hopes of winning an argument you've already lost.
You’re not even reading what’s being posted. And you’re just listing facts that you know everyone already knows already.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
-Both are RBsFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:35 pmExplain how they are similar prospects, because they aren't.Farley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:30 pmYou going to put it on the line?FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:25 pm
CMC was drafted 8th overall. He put up almost 2700 yards from scrimmage as a sophomore, and almost 1900 as a junior playing 3 less games. He then tested far better athletically than CEH did. CEH did basically nothing until he was the lead RB in arguably the greatest offense of all time last year, his only productive year. You really haven't established any legitamate argument, here. The way I see it, you know you don't have one, and are just giving one sentence distractive posts in the hopes of winning an argument you've already lost.
You’re not even reading what’s being posted. And you’re just listing facts that you know everyone already knows already.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
And where would you put him in your top ten rankings?
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QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
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QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Sure, because this is pretty bad, and I hope sarcasm?ToddFarthouse wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:45 pm-Both are RBsFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:35 pmExplain how they are similar prospects, because they aren't.
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BTW, I will. First 3 years in the league, in PPR scoring, CEH won't touch 75% of CMC's.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
LMAO. That's you "putting it on the line"? Holy crap. What a bold prediction. And soooo much at stake!FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:52 pmSure, because this is pretty bad, and I hope sarcasm?ToddFarthouse wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:45 pm-Both are RBsFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:35 pm
Explain how they are similar prospects, because they aren't.
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BTW, I will. First 3 years in the league, in PPR scoring, CEH won't touch 75% of CMC's.
Putting on the line is joining me in a $1250 or $2500 startup. Come on, pup. Let's do it.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
So giving 25 percent on a "comparable prospect" isn't putting it on the line? I guess we've established it's not comparable if you want 2 for 1.Farley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:29 pmLMAO. That's you "putting it on the line"? Holy crap. What a bold prediction. And soooo much at stake!FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:52 pmSure, because this is pretty bad, and I hope sarcasm?ToddFarthouse wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:45 pm
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Should I go on?
BTW, I will. First 3 years in the league, in PPR scoring, CEH won't touch 75% of CMC's.
Putting on the line is joining me in a $1250 or $2500 startup. Come on, pup. Let's do it.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
It's a poor comp, you being chip leader and raising people till fold doesn't make your 2/7 any better.Farley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:29 pmLMAO. That's you "putting it on the line"? Holy crap. What a bold prediction. And soooo much at stake!FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:52 pmSure, because this is pretty bad, and I hope sarcasm?ToddFarthouse wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:45 pm
-Both are RBs
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Should I go on?
BTW, I will. First 3 years in the league, in PPR scoring, CEH won't touch 75% of CMC's.
Putting on the line is joining me in a $1250 or $2500 startup. Come on, pup. Let's do it.
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
RBs:wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:48 pmAnd where would you put him in your top ten rankings?
1 Taylor
2 Swift
3 Dobbins
4 Akers
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6 Akers
7 Higgins
8 Reagor
9 Ruggs
10 Jefferson
11 Shenault
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
If you're gonna argue so hard for a player, maybe explain why, put some facts or predictions or rankings out there, you know... something quantitative besides how much you spend to get into your FFL... Don't be a pretentious tool when people ask you about said bold prediction either. Just my 2 cents
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
I'm not going to compare CEH to CMC as players. But we should be discussing CEH vs the other 2020 rookie RBs. In a PPR league, I have CEH number 1 RB due to his known skill set in the passing game. Every other RB we are projecting and hoping they will produce the passing game. I'm going with the guy that I know will.
Plus he demonstrates every other aspect of playing RB very well. Is he a one hit wonder? Sure, but I'd argue Burrow is a higher risk for being a one hit wonder than CEH.
Plus he demonstrates every other aspect of playing RB very well. Is he a one hit wonder? Sure, but I'd argue Burrow is a higher risk for being a one hit wonder than CEH.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
What are the details on the startup?Farley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:29 pmLMAO. That's you "putting it on the line"? Holy crap. What a bold prediction. And soooo much at stake!FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:52 pmSure, because this is pretty bad, and I hope sarcasm?ToddFarthouse wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:45 pm
-Both are RBs
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Should I go on?
BTW, I will. First 3 years in the league, in PPR scoring, CEH won't touch 75% of CMC's.
Putting on the line is joining me in a $1250 or $2500 startup. Come on, pup. Let's do it.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
This is why we need separate threads for players... so I dont have to read through this garbage to try and find some real insight
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Your response to being unable to create any relevant argument is to basically start a pissing contest with whoever you are arguing with because there’s no relevant information to back you up . Honestly laughable.Farley wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:29 pmLMAO. That's you "putting it on the line"? Holy crap. What a bold prediction. And soooo much at stake!FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:52 pmSure, because this is pretty bad, and I hope sarcasm?ToddFarthouse wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:45 pm
-Both are RBs
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-commonly have their names shortened to three letters
Should I go on?
BTW, I will. First 3 years in the league, in PPR scoring, CEH won't touch 75% of CMC's.
Putting on the line is joining me in a $1250 or $2500 startup. Come on, pup. Let's do it.
I tried to be nice, but bottom line CEH doesn’t compare to McCaffrey outside of being an adept pass catching RB.
I think another key point here is to say that just because he isn’t McCaffrey, doesn’t mean he can’t be a solid/good RB at the NFL level. I never said he’s a piece of garbage at the NFL level, I just thought him being compared to McCaffrey had literally zero substance
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