Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:12 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:03 am
Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:00 am Just going to throw this out there:

A.J. Dillon
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40YD - 4.53
Vert - 41 inches
Broad Jump - 131 inches
3Cone - 7.19
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40YD - 4.54
Vert - 37 inches
Broad Jump - 130 inches
3Cone - 7.20
Bench Press - 22
Yep. I saw the same thing. Eerily similar. He's a 2 down bruiser, with great athleticism for his size, but on the right team, if they want to feature that style, he could be a workhorse. Certainly a guy that should get goal line work.
Yeah, Dillon is someone who could be a steal towards the end of the 1st of rookie drafts, or in the 2nd round. If you're a two down back, you at least need to be someone who has a crazy athletic profile and can run defenses into the ground. Dillon has a chance at that.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Lord_Varys » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:49 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:53 am
Kmani6 wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:05 am Understandable to put JT as 1, and as I said I viewed them as very similar talents and really just think Swift will translate better (100% opinionated).

But that being said if Swift was mizelles 1.1 prior to the combine, then based on these responses of combine not changing much (especially when they both tested well), Swift should be the 1.1 after, but it looks like many have switched...

I’m not knocking Taylor because of this, but simply replying to the original comment that said if there was any flaw in JT’s game. Only in my head to head comp of Swift vs JT do I take this into consideration.
Swift is very good, but I just don't see how he was the 1.01 at any point. Strictly from a production standpoint, he's noticeably worse than Taylor and Dobbins.
College production isn't that important past a certain point.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:57 am

Lord_Varys wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:49 am
Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:53 am
Kmani6 wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:05 am Understandable to put JT as 1, and as I said I viewed them as very similar talents and really just think Swift will translate better (100% opinionated).

But that being said if Swift was mizelles 1.1 prior to the combine, then based on these responses of combine not changing much (especially when they both tested well), Swift should be the 1.1 after, but it looks like many have switched...

I’m not knocking Taylor because of this, but simply replying to the original comment that said if there was any flaw in JT’s game. Only in my head to head comp of Swift vs JT do I take this into consideration.
Swift is very good, but I just don't see how he was the 1.01 at any point. Strictly from a production standpoint, he's noticeably worse than Taylor and Dobbins.
College production isn't that important past a certain point.
Yep. Josh Jacobs, Alvin Kamara, Kenyan Drake, etc.

But in Taylor's case, he has elite production AND elite athleticism.
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby kadun2 » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:25 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:41 am
azthecrow wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:14 am
nathanq42 wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:01 am I think the top RBs comes down to landing spot. All have great production and athleticism. Let the NFL decide who #1 is.
:clap: wise words
I did that when I moved Penny ahead of Chubb on my board due to perceived landing spot and draft capital. No Thanks.
So, say JT (or whoever your top guy is) goes to Seattle. What do you do then?

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:28 am

azthecrow wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:25 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:41 am
azthecrow wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:14 am

:clap: wise words
I did that when I moved Penny ahead of Chubb on my board due to perceived landing spot and draft capital. No Thanks.
So, say JT (or whoever your top guy is) goes to Seattle. What do you do then?
Throw myself off a bridge.
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Packerland » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:32 am

Seattle has more holes than just RB and it is believed that Carson will be ready for training camp with his hip injury. I doubt JT goes there, I think he ends up in Atlanta Or Tennessee if they decide to move on from Henry. Obviously the Chiefs would be the best case scenario as we all know.
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League

QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert

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2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:48 am

Packerland wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:32 am Seattle has more holes than just RB and it is believed that Carson will be ready for training camp with his hip injury. I doubt JT goes there, I think he ends up in Atlanta Or Tennessee if they decide to move on from Henry. Obviously the Chiefs would be the best case scenario as we all know.
Houston would be nice. I could see Atlanta, too, but I think Swift might be more their thing.
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Packerland » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:51 am

Where do you think he goes..wild guess?
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League

QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert

Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:58 am

Packerland wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:51 am Where do you think he goes..wild guess?
Baltimore.
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby DJB » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:58 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:00 am Just going to throw this out there:

A.J. Dillon
6'0
247 lbs
40YD - 4.53
Vert - 41 inches
Broad Jump - 131 inches
3Cone - 7.19
Bench Press - 23

Derrick Henry
6'3
247
40YD - 4.54
Vert - 37 inches
Broad Jump - 130 inches
3Cone - 7.20
Bench Press - 22
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby kadun2 » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:19 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:28 am
azthecrow wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:25 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:41 am

I did that when I moved Penny ahead of Chubb on my board due to perceived landing spot and draft capital. No Thanks.
So, say JT (or whoever your top guy is) goes to Seattle. What do you do then?
Throw myself off a bridge.
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:43 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:58 am
Packerland wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:51 am Where do you think he goes..wild guess?
Baltimore.
That would be awesome, but they are a smart franchise and probably realize they don't need a first round RB with the system and QB they have, and would be better off sinking that pick into Defense, or OL, or a legit alpha WR.
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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Packerland » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:47 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:43 pm
Pac_Eddy wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:58 am
Packerland wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:51 am Where do you think he goes..wild guess?
Baltimore.
That would be awesome, but they are a smart franchise and probably realize they don't need a first round RB with the system and QB they have, and would be better off sinking that pick into Defense, or OL, or a legit alpha WR.
I can see them taking a guy like Jefferson from LSU to compliment Hollywood. They could also use edge help.
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League

QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert

Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby mild » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:14 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:38 am The same Matt Waldman that has Swift outside his top 5 RB's? You say you respect his opinion and what he says about Taylor, yet you have Swift at 1 and Waldman has him much lower. Not saying Waldman is wrong either, but his Hakeem Butler take will be tough to live down. :lol:
Can we see 5 games of Hakeem playing with Kyler please.

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Re: Jonathan Taylor is your 1.01 now.

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:18 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:43 pm
Pac_Eddy wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:58 am
Packerland wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:51 am Where do you think he goes..wild guess?
Baltimore.
That would be awesome, but they are a smart franchise and probably realize they don't need a first round RB with the system and QB they have, and would be better off sinking that pick into Defense, or OL, or a legit alpha WR.
I'd love him, but they probably go defense 1st. I think Judon plays on the tag/re-signs, so that may eliminate pass rushing. Most of the secondary is signed or to be signed. They might go MLB, OL even if Yanda doesn't retire, or WR. Then I could see RB.

As a fan, I think WR is the right choice (not sure which really yet, still preferred DK last year over Hollywood). It would be hard not to get excited about them drafting JT or Swift maybe even Dobbins in the 1st since it's late. I think I'd rather get Akers (2nd? Round) or someone else later.


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