SF Darnold+ or Chark+

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Poll ended at Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:51 pm

Sam Darnold, Robby Anderson
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DJ Chark, 2021 2nd
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16%
 
Total votes: 19

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SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby nosferatu » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:51 pm

For team in signature. Rebuilding my crappy team. Would you buy Chark at this price?
A - 12tm PPR: QB, SFLX, 3RB, 3WR, TE, FLX

QBs: Burrow, Lawrence, Fields, Darnold, Wilson, Rypien
RBs: Dillon, Nwangwu, junk
WRs: Chark, Reagor, Chase, Smith, Bateman, Mooney, Rodgers, Waddle, Preston, Lazard
TEs: Herndon, Freiermuth, Sternberger
2022: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4

B - 12tm PPR: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX (SFLX in 2022)

QBs: Mahomes, Ryan, Eason
RBs: Cook, Jones, Gordon, Robinson, Gibson, Mattison, Harris, Jackson, Hasty, Michel
WRs: Adams, Nuk, Golladay, Boyd, Preston, Shepard, Gage, Harry
TEs: Henry, Ebron, Hurst, Graham
2021: 1.11, 3.11, 4.11 2022: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 pm

Has to be Darnold in SF.

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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby nosferatu » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:56 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 pm Has to be Darnold in SF.
Because of my team build or just Darnold > Chark? Fyi - I'm not concerned with filling out my roster. Hoping for the 1.01 again next year.
A - 12tm PPR: QB, SFLX, 3RB, 3WR, TE, FLX

QBs: Burrow, Lawrence, Fields, Darnold, Wilson, Rypien
RBs: Dillon, Nwangwu, junk
WRs: Chark, Reagor, Chase, Smith, Bateman, Mooney, Rodgers, Waddle, Preston, Lazard
TEs: Herndon, Freiermuth, Sternberger
2022: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4

B - 12tm PPR: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX (SFLX in 2022)

QBs: Mahomes, Ryan, Eason
RBs: Cook, Jones, Gordon, Robinson, Gibson, Mattison, Harris, Jackson, Hasty, Michel
WRs: Adams, Nuk, Golladay, Boyd, Preston, Shepard, Gage, Harry
TEs: Henry, Ebron, Hurst, Graham
2021: 1.11, 3.11, 4.11 2022: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby RB6 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:57 pm

Darnold easily in SF.
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LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
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Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby Goddard » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:00 pm

Darnold by a lot.

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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby JJRules » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:29 pm

I wasn't impressed by Darnold in college, and I'm not particularly impressed by what I've seen from him in the NFL. I'm even less impressed by any football activities in which Adam Gase is involved.

I understand that you need QBs in superflex, but I really don't think Darnold is a good answer here.
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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:31 pm

nosferatu wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:56 pm
Gator Sens wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 pm Has to be Darnold in SF.
Because of my team build or just Darnold > Chark? Fyi - I'm not concerned with filling out my roster. Hoping for the 1.01 again next year.
Straight value wise, I would want more for a young starting QB.

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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:51 pm

Darnold easy in SF.
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QB - Dak, Brissett, Purdy
RB - Najee, Swift, J.Robinson, D.Henderson, McKinnon,
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Miller, G.Davis, MVS
TE - Kittle, Gesicki, Hockenson
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QB - Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Chubb, L.Bell, Ingram, K.Johnson, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - M.Thomas, OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2022 - 3, 4, 5


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QB: Mayfield, Allen, M.Ryan, Bridgewater, Mond
RB: Mixon, Swift, Sanders, Ekeler, DJ, Kerryon
WR: Tyreek, A.Cooper, D.Adams, A-Rob, C.Davis, P.Williams, V.Jefferson, Duverney
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Hollister
2022: All picks

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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby nosferatu » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:15 pm

JJRules wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:29 pm I wasn't impressed by Darnold in college, and I'm not particularly impressed by what I've seen from him in the NFL. I'm even less impressed by any football activities in which Adam Gase is involved.

I understand that you need QBs in superflex, but I really don't think Darnold is a good answer here.
This was my initial thoughts as well. I originally offered the deal with a 2021 1st coming back but the owner countered with a 2nd.

What if I made the same deal but Kelce instead of Darnold? I've been trying to move him for two seasons to no avail.
A - 12tm PPR: QB, SFLX, 3RB, 3WR, TE, FLX

QBs: Burrow, Lawrence, Fields, Darnold, Wilson, Rypien
RBs: Dillon, Nwangwu, junk
WRs: Chark, Reagor, Chase, Smith, Bateman, Mooney, Rodgers, Waddle, Preston, Lazard
TEs: Herndon, Freiermuth, Sternberger
2022: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4

B - 12tm PPR: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX (SFLX in 2022)

QBs: Mahomes, Ryan, Eason
RBs: Cook, Jones, Gordon, Robinson, Gibson, Mattison, Harris, Jackson, Hasty, Michel
WRs: Adams, Nuk, Golladay, Boyd, Preston, Shepard, Gage, Harry
TEs: Henry, Ebron, Hurst, Graham
2021: 1.11, 3.11, 4.11 2022: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:59 pm

JJRules wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:29 pm I wasn't impressed by Darnold in college, and I'm not particularly impressed by what I've seen from him in the NFL. I'm even less impressed by any football activities in which Adam Gase is involved.

I understand that you need QBs in superflex, but I really don't think Darnold is a good answer here.
x2 I'm kind of shocked by all the Darnold love. Yes, the mono kind of derailed his year, but are we really trusting that he's going to be a reliable fantasy QB with Gase and the Jets' lack of weapons/line quality? I think Darnold >= Chark, and Anderson = 2nd, so this deal is pretty fair as is if you want Chark.

nosferatu wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:15 pm What if I made the same deal but Kelce instead of Darnold? I've been trying to move him for two seasons to no avail.
Yuck, I'd want way more to sell Kelce. I value Kelce alone > Darnold + Anderson.
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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby nosferatu » Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:41 pm

nosferatu wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:15 pm What if I made the same deal but Kelce instead of Darnold? I've been trying to move him for two seasons to no avail.
Yuck, I'd want way more to sell Kelce. I value Kelce alone > Darnold + Anderson.
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Yup me too, but no one in the league wants him. I've tried for two full seasons to sell for decent value but zero offers. All the contenders have TEs that they're happy win. The bottom tier teams just not at all interested. This is the first time a team that is making moves to contend has an opening at TE. I want to offer Kelce/Robby for Chark/2021 1st but I'm sure he'll reject that too.
A - 12tm PPR: QB, SFLX, 3RB, 3WR, TE, FLX

QBs: Burrow, Lawrence, Fields, Darnold, Wilson, Rypien
RBs: Dillon, Nwangwu, junk
WRs: Chark, Reagor, Chase, Smith, Bateman, Mooney, Rodgers, Waddle, Preston, Lazard
TEs: Herndon, Freiermuth, Sternberger
2022: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4

B - 12tm PPR: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX (SFLX in 2022)

QBs: Mahomes, Ryan, Eason
RBs: Cook, Jones, Gordon, Robinson, Gibson, Mattison, Harris, Jackson, Hasty, Michel
WRs: Adams, Nuk, Golladay, Boyd, Preston, Shepard, Gage, Harry
TEs: Henry, Ebron, Hurst, Graham
2021: 1.11, 3.11, 4.11 2022: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:55 pm

nosferatu wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:41 pm
nosferatu wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:15 pm What if I made the same deal but Kelce instead of Darnold? I've been trying to move him for two seasons to no avail.
Yuck, I'd want way more to sell Kelce. I value Kelce alone > Darnold + Anderson.
Yup me too, but no one in the league wants him. I've tried for two full seasons to sell for decent value but zero offers. All the contenders have TEs that they're happy win. The bottom tier teams just not at all interested. This is the first time a team that is making moves to contend has an opening at TE. I want to offer Kelce/Robby for Chark/2021 1st but I'm sure he'll reject that too.
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Crazy stuff about Kelce. Must be the age old once a player turns 30 they are done belief.

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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby Zacsby » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:40 pm

I don't like Darnold much at all but I gotta think there's a better deal out there for him in a SF league.
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QB - Mahomes, Lawrence, Mac
RB - Etienne, Walker, Rhamondre, Javonte, Akers, CEH
WR - AJB, Waddle, Higgins, Gabe, Toney
TE - Andrews, ISJ
DL - Quinnen, Highsmith, Josh Allen
LB - Lloyd, JOK, Gay, Bush
DB - Winfield, Love, Delpit

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QB - Fields, Jimmy G
RB - Henry, Kamara, Swift, Herbert
WR - Adams, Juju, Jakobi, Theilen
TE - Hock, Everett
DL - Garrett, Buckner, Sweat
LB - White, David, Okereke, Jack
DB - Budda, CJGJ, Dugger, Byard

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Re: SF Darnold+ or Chark+

Postby Goddard » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:52 am

You guys don't have to like Darnold or be impressed by him, but he's still a young (younger than Burrow, Lamar, and other guys in the league) starting QB who will continue to be a starting QB for at least a handful of years. That's still worth a lot more than a WR like Chark in a SF.


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