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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:01 am

Joe Burrow has a vote for 8 in SF... lol

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby Shcritters » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:57 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:01 am Joe Burrow has a vote for 8 in SF... lol
Has to be an error... they had to have meant for 1QB... right? Even then it is a little early, but not as egregious as 1.08 in SF.
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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby cmizelle » Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:46 pm

Shcritters wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:57 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:01 am Joe Burrow has a vote for 8 in SF... lol
Has to be an error... they had to have meant for 1QB... right? Even then it is a little early, but not as egregious as 1.08 in SF.
If it is in fact an error, then I can switch it over to 1 QB. That's why I have people submit an I'd, so I can make changes if necessary. If the person that made that submission reads this, shoot me a message and I'll update it.

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby Vcize » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:57 pm

cmizelle wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:46 pm
Shcritters wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:57 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:01 am Joe Burrow has a vote for 8 in SF... lol
Has to be an error... they had to have meant for 1QB... right? Even then it is a little early, but not as egregious as 1.08 in SF.
If it is in fact an error, then I can switch it over to 1 QB. That's why I have people submit an I'd, so I can make changes if necessary. If the person that made that submission reads this, shoot me a message and I'll update it.
Seems unlikely to matter anyway. Burrow is going to run away with the #1 spot in that vote whether that vote is included or not.
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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby AussieMate » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:06 pm

Vcize wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:57 pm
cmizelle wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:46 pm
Shcritters wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:57 pm

Has to be an error... they had to have meant for 1QB... right? Even then it is a little early, but not as egregious as 1.08 in SF.
If it is in fact an error, then I can switch it over to 1 QB. That's why I have people submit an I'd, so I can make changes if necessary. If the person that made that submission reads this, shoot me a message and I'll update it.
Seems unlikely to matter anyway. Burrow is going to run away with the #1 spot in that vote whether that vote is included or not.
A failed attempt at lowering Burrows value? :ewink:
Surely a slip up and like you said, won't really change anything.

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:59 pm

They also voted Tua over him, Tua's lowest grade (at time of my post anyway) was 7th.

It's true it won't really matter, but why participate if you're going to put in crap like that? Even any Burrow haters/skeptics would take him long before that just for resell value.

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby cmizelle » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:29 am

bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:59 pm They also voted Tua over him, Tua's lowest grade (at time of my post anyway) was 7th.

It's true it won't really matter, but why participate if you're going to put in crap like that? Even any Burrow haters/skeptics would take him long before that just for resell value.
I'm not sure how you determined that the same person submitted Burrow at 8 and Tua over him, but you are correct. Here are the details of that submission. Its not typical for 2QB, but nothing too crazy...

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:53 am

cmizelle wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:29 am
bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:59 pm They also voted Tua over him, Tua's lowest grade (at time of my post anyway) was 7th.

It's true it won't really matter, but why participate if you're going to put in crap like that? Even any Burrow haters/skeptics would take him long before that just for resell value.
I'm not sure how you determined that the same person submitted Burrow at 8 and Tua over him, but you are correct. Here are the details of that submission. Its not typical for 2QB, but nothing too crazy...

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Because no one had voted Tua lower than 7th, while Burrow had one vote for 8th and they both had been voted on in every entry. So whoever voted for Burrow at 8 couldn't have voted for Tua at 8 or lower.

Ultimately doesn't matter, was just making an observation.

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby cmizelle » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:12 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:53 am Because no one had voted Tua lower than 7th, while Burrow had one vote for 8th and they both had been voted on in every entry. So whoever voted for Burrow at 8 couldn't have voted for Tua at 8 or lower.

Ultimately doesn't matter, was just making an observation.
Gotcha...You're following it more closely than I am :D

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby DynoScout » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:43 pm

cmizelle wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:29 am
bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:59 pm They also voted Tua over him, Tua's lowest grade (at time of my post anyway) was 7th.

It's true it won't really matter, but why participate if you're going to put in crap like that? Even any Burrow haters/skeptics would take him long before that just for resell value.
I'm not sure how you determined that the same person submitted Burrow at 8 and Tua over him, but you are correct. Here are the details of that submission. Its not typical for 2QB, but nothing too crazy...

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Those look to be my rankings. Wish i had some sexy argument, but I don't.
Just not sold on Burrow, the Bengals organization/ownership, or the current head coach/offensive scheme.

My submitted rankings are prospect rankings in that I didn't consider re-sale or trade value as though we were actually drafting. Clearly I'd be able to trade a shot at Burrow (or Burrow himself) for what I consider to be a massive profit...and I would. I'm not naive to the marketplace or consensus -- but i didn't think that Burrow getting 50 #1 votes was the point of the exercise.

Sorry if my rankings messed up the tool. I love it and I'm very appreciative of it, and of you for managing it every off-season.
I didn't have any ill intent.

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby cmizelle » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:43 pm

DynoScout wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:43 pm
Sorry if my rankings messed up the tool. I love it and I'm very appreciative of it, and of you for managing it every off-season.
I didn't have any ill intent.
No apology needed, it's all good. :thumbup:

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby CubfanAA » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:17 pm

DynoScout wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:43 pm
cmizelle wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:29 am
bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:59 pm They also voted Tua over him, Tua's lowest grade (at time of my post anyway) was 7th.

It's true it won't really matter, but why participate if you're going to put in crap like that? Even any Burrow haters/skeptics would take him long before that just for resell value.
I'm not sure how you determined that the same person submitted Burrow at 8 and Tua over him, but you are correct. Here are the details of that submission. Its not typical for 2QB, but nothing too crazy...

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Those look to be my rankings. Wish i had some sexy argument, but I don't.
Just not sold on Burrow, the Bengals organization/ownership, or the current head coach/offensive scheme.

My submitted rankings are prospect rankings in that I didn't consider re-sale or trade value as though we were actually drafting. Clearly I'd be able to trade a shot at Burrow (or Burrow himself) for what I consider to be a massive profit...and I would. I'm not naive to the marketplace or consensus -- but i didn't think that Burrow getting 50 #1 votes was the point of the exercise.

Sorry if my rankings messed up the tool. I love it and I'm very appreciative of it, and of you for managing it every off-season.
I didn't have any ill intent.
The tool would actually be kind of worthless if people didn't put in the rankings they believe in and just followed what everybody else does instead. In real world drafts even in SF, Burrow will not get taken #1 in every draft out there. There are always people that have rankings drastically different from consensus and sometimes multiple of those people get in the same league. Don't apologize for helping make the tool more accurate to the reality of how drafts actually happen.

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby cmizelle » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:29 pm

CubfanAA wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:17 pm The tool would actually be kind of worthless if people didn't put in the rankings they believe in and just followed what everybody else does instead. In real world drafts even in SF, Burrow will not get taken #1 in every draft out there. There are always people that have rankings drastically different from consensus and sometimes multiple of those people get in the same league. Don't apologize for helping make the tool more accurate to the reality of how drafts actually happen.
I second this... you just expressed it much better than I could have!

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby cazzie33 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:31 pm

I had Deez Nutz @ 1.01 but then again I also voted for him as Prez in '16

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Re: Mizelle Rookie Rankings Page

Postby cmizelle » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:12 pm

Bump... just wanted to bump this thread up in case there were people that wanted to submit their rankings and hadn't seen it.


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