CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

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CMC/Sutton or Adams/Kamara

CMC/Sutton
22
85%
Adams/Kamara
4
15%
 
Total votes: 26

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CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby migouch99 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:15 am

Disclaimer: This isn't an official offer but more of a gut check on where people sit with CMC

The owner of CMC is gagging for an elite WR. His latest "I don't know if I would do it" offer was CMC and TY Hilton for Adams and Kamara (team 2). Whilst I have zero intention on TY he also has Sutton who I do like.

If this was a solid deal with Sutton not TY, is this a gamble for my team? CMC is CMC but he's also at his highest value right now with potential regression coming but it's still going to be a workhorse role. I can't quite get my head around if I need to make this move or not.

TEAM 1
10 team, .5PPR SF / TEP, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1SF
———
QB: Burrow, Fields, Jones, Heinicke
RB: Achane, Monty, Swift, Mitchell, R.Johnson
WR: Chase, JJ, OBJ, N.Brown, Jeudy, Gallup, Moore, Bateman, Toney, W.Robinson
TE: Andrews, Kmet, Smith
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2025: 1.x, 4.x
2026: 1.x, 1.x, 2.x, 2.x

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Goddard » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:20 am

If he's not sure he'd do it with Hilton, I don't see how you can get him to add Sutton instead. If he did though, I'd say it's pretty close and would definitely consider it for your team.

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Z$$$ » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:25 am

If you believe that Kamara will get “back to form” then I’d keep your players. If you don’t and he’s willing to do Sutton instead of TY I’d do it. Would not do the deal as it sits with TY
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 5IDP
QB: Rodgers, Love
RB: Achane, Gibson, Dillon, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, G Wilson, Rice, JSN, Burks
TE: Goedert, Likely, Musgraves
2024 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11

16 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Stafford, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby abloom » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:30 am

Sutton is a pretty big + piece here. Easily CMC + Sutton over Kamara + Adams
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:34 am

Goddard wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:20 am If he's not sure he'd do it with Hilton, I don't see how you can get him to add Sutton instead. If he did though, I'd say it's pretty close and would definitely consider it for your team.
Exactly what I was thinking...

Sutton>Hilton

I’d absolutely take that trade with Sutton.. CMC is such a huge piece and I’m a Sutton believer..
I would not do it with Hilton.
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10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, D Pierce, Monty, Herbert, McLaughlin
WR: Deebo, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, Jeudy, E Moore, Michael Wilson, Tutu
TE: Kinkaid, Schultz, Njoku

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:35 am

Sutton and CMC for me. Without Sutton, no chance.

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:44 am

migouch99 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:15 am The owner of CMC is gagging for an elite WR. His latest "I don't know if I would do it" offer was CMC and TY Hilton for Adams and Kamara (team 2). Whilst I have zero intention on TY he also has Sutton who I do like.

If this was a solid deal with Sutton not TY, is this a gamble for my team?
Why would he be willing to include Sutton if he's not even sure he'd include Hilton? Sutton >> Hilton

McCaffrey + Sutton > Adams + Kamara > McCaffrey + Hilton
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:54 am

CMC is the best player here, but I prefer two top 5 position players over the #1 and a top 20.

Give me Adams + Kamara
Fig Newtons - 12 team superflex .5 ppr, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, Flex, SF
QB - Dak, Brissett, Purdy
RB - Najee, Swift, J.Robinson, D.Henderson, McKinnon,
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Miller, G.Davis, MVS
TE - Kittle, Gesicki, Hockenson
Picks: 2023 - 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

Young Newts - 14 team .25 ppr Superflex, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, wr/rb, OP
QB - Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Chubb, L.Bell, Ingram, K.Johnson, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - M.Thomas, OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2022 - 3, 4, 5


DirkaDirka - 12 team PPR Superflex
QB: Mayfield, Allen, M.Ryan, Bridgewater, Mond
RB: Mixon, Swift, Sanders, Ekeler, DJ, Kerryon
WR: Tyreek, A.Cooper, D.Adams, A-Rob, C.Davis, P.Williams, V.Jefferson, Duverney
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Hollister
2022: All picks

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby mmass » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:07 pm

at this point as a CMC owner I would take Kamara and Adams and Give you CMC with no add on.... the Market is high on CMC at the moment
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby migouch99 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:56 am

So at this point he's considering CMC + Sutton for Adams + Kamara + the 3.04

I have another third and whilst it gets me very little, I think chucking it in would maybe get him to budge. Thoughts?

TEAM 1
10 team, .5PPR SF / TEP, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1SF
———
QB: Burrow, Fields, Jones, Heinicke
RB: Achane, Monty, Swift, Mitchell, R.Johnson
WR: Chase, JJ, OBJ, N.Brown, Jeudy, Gallup, Moore, Bateman, Toney, W.Robinson
TE: Andrews, Kmet, Smith
———
2025: 1.x, 4.x
2026: 1.x, 1.x, 2.x, 2.x

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Re: CMC+ vs Adams/Kamara

Postby Zacsby » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:15 am

In a trade like this and in a 10 teamer, the 3rds don't really move the needle much. Would have no problem tossing them in if that's all it took to get it done.
12 Team SF IDP
QB - Mahomes, Lawrence, Mac
RB - Etienne, Walker, Rhamondre, Javonte, Akers, CEH
WR - AJB, Waddle, Higgins, Gabe, Toney
TE - Andrews, ISJ
DL - Quinnen, Highsmith, Josh Allen
LB - Lloyd, JOK, Gay, Bush
DB - Winfield, Love, Delpit

14 Team 1QB IDP
QB - Fields, Jimmy G
RB - Henry, Kamara, Swift, Herbert
WR - Adams, Juju, Jakobi, Theilen
TE - Hock, Everett
DL - Garrett, Buckner, Sweat
LB - White, David, Okereke, Jack
DB - Budda, CJGJ, Dugger, Byard


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