J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:37 pm

Lord_Varys wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:52 am https://twitter.com/TonyClementsTC/stat ... 5244754945

I can watch this clip over and over and never tire.
Reminds me a bit of this one from his freshman year.

https://youtu.be/rjwSlChafUk?t=11
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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby Lord_Varys » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:09 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:37 pm
Lord_Varys wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:52 am https://twitter.com/TonyClementsTC/stat ... 5244754945

I can watch this clip over and over and never tire.
Reminds me a bit of this one from his freshman year.

https://youtu.be/rjwSlChafUk?t=11
Jump Kuts Dobbins!

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby AussieMate » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:13 pm

I mentioned months ago that I was moving Dobbins into the top 3 rb tier and I'm very unhappy that everyone else seems to be doing it now. Thought for sure I'd get him at No.5 and now I'm really concerned.
Not saying I was the first at all only that I'd almost set my heart on taking him and thought at the time that I would be reaching a touch by not taking a WR.
Just like the last few years ago when I had Mixon high when he wasn't being talked about and the same for DJ Moore, I think I need to stop looking at this stuff so early as this always happens.

Just so it doesn't seem like I'm tooting my own horn, I thought CMAC would be a bust and Corey Davis was a future star, also thought L.Jackson was a dud :wall: :wall:

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby AussieMate » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:14 pm

Lord_Varys wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:09 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:37 pm
Lord_Varys wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:52 am https://twitter.com/TonyClementsTC/stat ... 5244754945

I can watch this clip over and over and never tire.
Reminds me a bit of this one from his freshman year.

https://youtu.be/rjwSlChafUk?t=11
Jump Kuts Dobbins!
I'm a sucker for a good jump cut, you show me a good jump cut and I'll probs over draft said player. Does anyone remember that clip of Payton Barber doing a nasty jump cut? Almost went out and bought him everywhere hahaha

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:18 pm

AussieMate wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:14 pm
Lord_Varys wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:09 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:37 pm

Reminds me a bit of this one from his freshman year.

https://youtu.be/rjwSlChafUk?t=11
Jump Kuts Dobbins!
I'm a sucker for a good jump cut, you show me a good jump cut and I'll probs over draft said player. Does anyone remember that clip of Payton Barber doing a nasty jump cut? Almost went out and bought him everywhere hahaha
lmao. You should have seen people hyping up CJA's highlight video

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby esloan35 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:24 pm

It’s going to depend on where these guys get drafted. I don’t see JT getting caught from behind much either. I still think this top 5 with matching Lamb and Juedy with the top 3 RBs is pretty dang special.

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:40 am

I will say I like the top 3 as well. Landing spot might be of biggest value to Swift. Best pass catcher but I don't see anything too crazy when I watch him.

I think Dobbins is the best all around and probably why people have him going 1.01. kinda reminds me of Harry last year. A lot of the WR had big concerns but for some reason Harry not as much so he went as the top WR in a lot of leagues.

I think Taylor has the most to gain from his combine. He plays like a bruiser and if he can show that breakaway speed, watch out

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby esloan35 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:32 am

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:40 am I will say I like the top 3 as well. Landing spot might be of biggest value to Swift. Best pass catcher but I don't see anything too crazy when I watch him.

I think Dobbins is the best all around and probably why people have him going 1.01. kinda reminds me of Harry last year. A lot of the WR had big concerns but for some reason Harry not as much so he went as the top WR in a lot of leagues.

I think Taylor has the most to gain from his combine. He plays like a bruiser and if he can show that breakaway speed, watch out
I agree on JT, he just might be the most complete back.

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby DJB » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:13 am

JT certainly has the most to gain from the combine. If his hands look good and he shows well in the cone and 40 he could be the first RB taken in the draft.

Because on tape he looks like the best pure runner of the big 3.
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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:40 am

DJB wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:13 am JT certainly has the most to gain from the combine. If his hands look good and he shows well in the cone and 40 he could be the first RB taken in the draft.

Because on tape he looks like the best pure runner of the big 3.
Based on his tape, his hands will look good.
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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:51 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:40 am
DJB wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:13 am JT certainly has the most to gain from the combine. If his hands look good and he shows well in the cone and 40 he could be the first RB taken in the draft.

Because on tape he looks like the best pure runner of the big 3.
Based on his tape, his hands will look good.
Swift is pretty easily the best/most natural receiver of the 3, but I think the lack of receiving production from Taylor and Dobbins is more due to their teams offensive philosophies and play styles than talent and ability on their part.

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:24 am

bjd5211 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:51 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:40 am
DJB wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:13 am JT certainly has the most to gain from the combine. If his hands look good and he shows well in the cone and 40 he could be the first RB taken in the draft.

Because on tape he looks like the best pure runner of the big 3.
Based on his tape, his hands will look good.
Swift is pretty easily the best/most natural receiver of the 3, but I think the lack of receiving production from Taylor and Dobbins is more due to their teams offensive philosophies and play styles than talent and ability on their part.
Dobbins has shown to be able to make difficult catches. Catching the ball behind him, on low throws, and full extension while moving full speed on a route 20 plus yards down the field. It's interesting that Jeremiah calls Swift a "cradle catcher", as he seems to view his hands as less than Stellar. I agree with the offensive philosophy part, but Dobbins still put up at least 22 catches every year, which is not bad at all for that system. I've seen enough to know he has what I would call above average hands for a RB.
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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby Lord_Varys » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:06 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:40 am I think Taylor has the most to gain from his combine. He plays like a bruiser and if he can show that breakaway speed, watch out
I don't see a bruiser at all. He's very nimble between the tackles. Just because he CAN power through you doesn't mean that's what he is.

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby mild » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:58 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:40 am I will say I like the top 3 as well. Landing spot might be of biggest value to Swift. Best pass catcher but I don't see anything too crazy when I watch him.

I think Dobbins is the best all around and probably why people have him going 1.01. kinda reminds me of Harry last year. A lot of the WR had big concerns but for some reason Harry not as much so he went as the top WR in a lot of leagues.

I think Taylor has the most to gain from his combine. He plays like a bruiser and if he can show that breakaway speed, watch out
A vote for Swift over JT and Dobbins at this point is basically will-full ignorance of the season just been, and a projection of the skillset at the next level. At this point, if you're a Swift guy (which I admittedly am) you're probably waiting for the other shoe to drop from the combine/medical testing - why did the 2019 Swift look so pedestrian, and is that 2018 guy still in there?

Personally I'm going to gamble that yes - he's still in there. If it comes out that he played through something, then that would make all the sense in the world to me. It's also worth noting, though - that Georgia offense really was nothing special this year, and I watched them a lot. They were extremely happy winning games 14-10. Not exactly conducive to stats on the same level as the Buckeyes...

Though of course, by that argument, it makes JT even more impressive...

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Re: J.K. Dobbins 1.01?

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:15 pm

Lord_Varys wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:06 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:40 am I think Taylor has the most to gain from his combine. He plays like a bruiser and if he can show that breakaway speed, watch out
I don't see a bruiser at all. He's very nimble between the tackles. Just because he CAN power through you doesn't mean that's what he is.
Yeah bruiser was a lazy adjective in the grand scheme. But in comparison to the other 3, he's the hardest runner. I'm just saying if he also tests fast, which he looks very fast at times, I think he's easily going to jump Dobbins. At least post combine. Draft usually means more


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