Christian Kirk's Value

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby JohnnyBoyRoss » Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:28 pm

I’m intrigued by Kirk, and thinking it may be a slightly “buy low” window right now. Was curious what people might want as sellers in order to move him.
Team 1
.5 PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 Flex League 12 teams
QB: Russ, Foles, Taylor
RB: Henry, Sanders, Fournette, Mostert, Dillon, McCoy, R. Freeman
WR: OBJ, Arob, Deebo, Mike Will, Watkins, Ross, Pettis
TE:Olsen, Dissly, Ian Thomas

Team 2
.5 PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 Flex League 12 teams
Qb: Roethlisberger, Tannehill, Foles, Tyrod, Trubisky, Herbert, Winston
Rb: Chubb, Drake, Dobbins, Bell, Dillon, Penny, R. Freeman
Wr: Thomas, Evans, Chark, AJ Green, Ruggs, Ross
Te: Rudolph, Thomas, Oliver

Team 3
1 PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Superflex 1 Flex 12 teams
Qb: Rogers, Mayfield, Brady
Rb: MGIII, David Johnson, Hunt, Coleman, Mostert, McKinnon, Howard, Mattison, L. Murray
Wr: Adams, Evans, Robinson, Cooks, AJG, Ruggs, J. Brown, Edelman, Van Jefferson
Te: Goedert, Ebron, Thomas, Keene

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby LMS123 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:10 pm

I love his prospects going forward, high volume passing offence and not much competition, especially if Fitz retires. I’d want a first in the 1.07-1.08 range to move him; but I know not a lot of players would pay that
Jake Fromm State Farm (12 team PPR SF)
QB: Purdy, ARich (TS), Levis (TS), Bagent, Hall, Rudolph, Fromm
RB: Roschon (TS), Allgeier, Hill, Demercado, McLaughlin, Mitchell, K. Harris, E. Wilson
WR: Addison, London, Jmo, Shaheed, Reed (TS), Pop D, Iosivas, C. Jones, Mooney, T. Palmer, Scott, Tucker, Austin, Gipson, Melton,
TE: Musgrave, Mayer (TS), Trautman, Gray, Jordan
2024: 1.01, 1.07, 2.04, 2.10, 2.11, 3.01, 3.06, 3.07, 3.11
2025: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby nathanq42 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:54 pm

He is on my buy low list. I need some major help at QB and his owner coincidentally owns Wentz as well, both are targets of mine.
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby JohnnyBoyRoss » Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:54 pm

Yeah, I would love to acquire him, and I’m cautiously trying to acquire 1.11-2.02 somewhere in that range, then would immediately offer it for Kirk. Wasn’t sure if that was too low to offer.
Team 1
.5 PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 Flex League 12 teams
QB: Russ, Foles, Taylor
RB: Henry, Sanders, Fournette, Mostert, Dillon, McCoy, R. Freeman
WR: OBJ, Arob, Deebo, Mike Will, Watkins, Ross, Pettis
TE:Olsen, Dissly, Ian Thomas

Team 2
.5 PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 Flex League 12 teams
Qb: Roethlisberger, Tannehill, Foles, Tyrod, Trubisky, Herbert, Winston
Rb: Chubb, Drake, Dobbins, Bell, Dillon, Penny, R. Freeman
Wr: Thomas, Evans, Chark, AJ Green, Ruggs, Ross
Te: Rudolph, Thomas, Oliver

Team 3
1 PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Superflex 1 Flex 12 teams
Qb: Rogers, Mayfield, Brady
Rb: MGIII, David Johnson, Hunt, Coleman, Mostert, McKinnon, Howard, Mattison, L. Murray
Wr: Adams, Evans, Robinson, Cooks, AJG, Ruggs, J. Brown, Edelman, Van Jefferson
Te: Goedert, Ebron, Thomas, Keene

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby Hankybro21 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:55 pm

JohnnyBoyRoss wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:54 pm Yeah, I would love to acquire him, and I’m cautiously trying to acquire 1.11-2.02 somewhere in that range, then would immediately offer it for Kirk. Wasn’t sure if that was too low to offer.
I’d pass on that as a Kirk owner
Team 1
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce

Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.02, 1.04, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early)

Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Ekeler, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Kamara, Tucker
T: Andrews, Granson
2024: 1.03, 3rd (late)

Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby JohnnyBoyRoss » Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:26 pm

Hankybro21 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:55 pm
JohnnyBoyRoss wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:54 pm Yeah, I would love to acquire him, and I’m cautiously trying to acquire 1.11-2.02 somewhere in that range, then would immediately offer it for Kirk. Wasn’t sure if that was too low to offer.
I’d pass on that as a Kirk owner
What would u want as an owner?
Team 1
.5 PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 Flex League 12 teams
QB: Russ, Foles, Taylor
RB: Henry, Sanders, Fournette, Mostert, Dillon, McCoy, R. Freeman
WR: OBJ, Arob, Deebo, Mike Will, Watkins, Ross, Pettis
TE:Olsen, Dissly, Ian Thomas

Team 2
.5 PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 Flex League 12 teams
Qb: Roethlisberger, Tannehill, Foles, Tyrod, Trubisky, Herbert, Winston
Rb: Chubb, Drake, Dobbins, Bell, Dillon, Penny, R. Freeman
Wr: Thomas, Evans, Chark, AJ Green, Ruggs, Ross
Te: Rudolph, Thomas, Oliver

Team 3
1 PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Superflex 1 Flex 12 teams
Qb: Rogers, Mayfield, Brady
Rb: MGIII, David Johnson, Hunt, Coleman, Mostert, McKinnon, Howard, Mattison, L. Murray
Wr: Adams, Evans, Robinson, Cooks, AJG, Ruggs, J. Brown, Edelman, Van Jefferson
Te: Goedert, Ebron, Thomas, Keene

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby LMS123 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:25 am

JohnnyBoyRoss wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:26 pm
Hankybro21 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:55 pm
JohnnyBoyRoss wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:54 pm Yeah, I would love to acquire him, and I’m cautiously trying to acquire 1.11-2.02 somewhere in that range, then would immediately offer it for Kirk. Wasn’t sure if that was too low to offer.
I’d pass on that as a Kirk owner
What would u want as an owner?
I’d pass on that as well, like I mentioned earlier in this forum is want something in the 1.07-1.08 range to move him. But I know a lot of people won’t pay that
Jake Fromm State Farm (12 team PPR SF)
QB: Purdy, ARich (TS), Levis (TS), Bagent, Hall, Rudolph, Fromm
RB: Roschon (TS), Allgeier, Hill, Demercado, McLaughlin, Mitchell, K. Harris, E. Wilson
WR: Addison, London, Jmo, Shaheed, Reed (TS), Pop D, Iosivas, C. Jones, Mooney, T. Palmer, Scott, Tucker, Austin, Gipson, Melton,
TE: Musgrave, Mayer (TS), Trautman, Gray, Jordan
2024: 1.01, 1.07, 2.04, 2.10, 2.11, 3.01, 3.06, 3.07, 3.11
2025: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby Big Al » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:56 am

With several young WR's and Fitz returning, What would you currently buy and sell Kirk for in picks?

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby kmbryant09 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:30 am

As an owner, I think he's a hold right now.

I wouldn't trade him for anything lower than 1.06 in this class, and I doubt anyone is buying for that price.

I'm personally not convinced that Kirk is a true WR #1 in the NFL, so all the talk of the Cardinals drafting someone like Lamb doesn't concern me as much. I think Kirk would thrive as a #2 in that system.
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby CGW » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:44 am

I'm still high on Kirk. He played most of 2019 with nagging injuries and an offense that had a hard time throwing the ball downfield. I follow targets, and Kirk is a target monster. If I was selling id want a mid to late first. If I was buying I'd hope to get him for a late 1st and maybe try to get something coming back.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
| 1stx3, 3rdx3

10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby Rustycage » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:47 am

I traded Kirk and a 3rd for 1.06 as an example. I've been high on him since drafting him, but I thought it was a fair enough deal to sell. I also am not convinced he will become a true WR 1 but I don't have any real logic to back that up. I guess it just seemed like a fair deal.
12 Team Dynasty, (SF) (2pt/c TE Prem)
QB - Wentz, Heinicke, Big Ben, Fitz, Tyrod, Rudolph
RB - Henry, Kamara, CMC, R. Jones, D. Felton, P. Lindsay
WR - Ridley, Pittman, Cooks, M. Williams, MT, AJG, R. Higgins, Perriman, Shi Smith, MVS
TE - Gesicki, Engram, Uzomah, Hurst, Manhertz, Farrell

2022: 1,2,3,4

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby Big Al » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:55 pm

Does the fact Kirk missed multiple games each season concern anyone?

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:50 pm

Big Al wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:55 pm Does the fact Kirk missed multiple games each season concern anyone?
Yes. That and he doesn't score much. He had a 3 TD game against the leagues worst pass D, and that's it for TD's all year.
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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby LMS123 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:37 pm

badbuddah wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:57 pm Would you guys trade Lamar Jackson and Kirk for Russell Wilson in 1QB?
Lamar + Kirk for Wilson? Should be Wilson + Kirk for Lamar
Jake Fromm State Farm (12 team PPR SF)
QB: Purdy, ARich (TS), Levis (TS), Bagent, Hall, Rudolph, Fromm
RB: Roschon (TS), Allgeier, Hill, Demercado, McLaughlin, Mitchell, K. Harris, E. Wilson
WR: Addison, London, Jmo, Shaheed, Reed (TS), Pop D, Iosivas, C. Jones, Mooney, T. Palmer, Scott, Tucker, Austin, Gipson, Melton,
TE: Musgrave, Mayer (TS), Trautman, Gray, Jordan
2024: 1.01, 1.07, 2.04, 2.10, 2.11, 3.01, 3.06, 3.07, 3.11
2025: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4

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Re: Christian Kirk's Value

Postby Tripwired » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:42 pm

I'd say his value is around the 1.06-1.08 range for even money. If I owned him I'd want no less than the 1.6 probably, but I think he has breakout potential.
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi

10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
Dst - TB, Mia


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