Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby Servo » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:45 pm

This whole Winston thing is a tough discussion.

- TB's defense has been garbage most of the time. Now, is it the result of having to go up against Cam, Brees + Ryan for the last half-decade? Or is it also a result of the FO being completely inept through 3 coaching staffs (Smith, Koetter, Arians)?

- Do you just keep him around and hope that Brees + Ryan retire? Looks like they've successfully waited out Cam. LOL

- Winston can win games and he can absolutely crater them. Since 2015, he is top in INTs, 2nd in Pick-6's, 4th in Losses.

Option 1 - there's probably no correct answer here. TB cuts Winston loose and they go back to being a bottom dweller with a young QB (unless they go out and get someone #unlikely). Then Winston goes to be a backup or maybe some team takes a chance on him as a bridge and he could flourish with better pieces a la Tannehill.

Option 2 - TB keeps him and continues to go on the same rollercoaster and everyone just hopes that they "finally" get a run game or defense 5+ years and counting.

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby Phaded » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:47 pm

This Saturday will be interesting without Evans, Godwin, and Miller.

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby RB6 » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:19 pm

Phaded wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:47 pm This Saturday will be interesting without Evans, Godwin, and Miller.
Think I'll be firing up Perriman over Kupp in the final. He's gonna see a lot of targets.
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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby mild » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:00 pm

RB6 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:19 pm
Phaded wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:47 pm This Saturday will be interesting without Evans, Godwin, and Miller.
Think I'll be firing up Perriman over Kupp in the final. He's gonna see a lot of targets.
I'm considering the same thing except it's OJ Howard over Hunter Henry... surely it's time to feed OJ...

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby Dibbles » Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:43 pm

mild wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:00 pm
RB6 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:19 pm
Phaded wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:47 pm This Saturday will be interesting without Evans, Godwin, and Miller.
Think I'll be firing up Perriman over Kupp in the final. He's gonna see a lot of targets.
I'm considering the same thing except it's OJ Howard over Hunter Henry... surely it's time to feed OJ...
Just me, but I'd easily stick with Henry here . . . you'll kick yourself if OJH follows suit with a typical 2019 stinker, while H Henry puts up a typical 15+ point game. Don't let last week's game sway you, start your studs.

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby Phaded » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:21 pm

I think "typical 15+ game" is a massive overstatement for Henry, but I do agree that OJH is extremely risky. I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron Brate is a bigger beneficiary than OJH, to be perfectly honest.

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby mild » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:39 pm

Phaded wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:21 pm I think "typical 15+ game" is a massive overstatement for Henry, but I do agree that OJH is extremely risky. I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron Brate is a bigger beneficiary than OJH, to be perfectly honest.
That's fair on Brate. Not a bad call at all.

As for Henry - I love him - but he's had 177 yards total since Week 10, 17th amongst TE's. The target share is theoretically there, as are some RZ targets - but it's an incredibly volatile offense as of late with Rivers melting down more often than not. And there are just so many mouths to feed between KA, Williams, Ekeler, and Gordon.

OJH had his most targets on the season this week just been (8) - and with Scotty Miller, Chris Godwin AND Evans all out... someone is going to have to catch the ball...

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby Ray Finkle » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:43 pm

mild wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:00 pm
RB6 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:19 pm
Phaded wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:47 pm This Saturday will be interesting without Evans, Godwin, and Miller.
Think I'll be firing up Perriman over Kupp in the final. He's gonna see a lot of targets.
I'm considering the same thing except it's OJ Howard over Hunter Henry... surely it's time to feed OJ...
I’m thinking I’ll be going Perriman over OBJ with confidence. NonPPR.

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:34 pm

Dibbles wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:43 pm
mild wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:00 pm
RB6 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:19 pm

Think I'll be firing up Perriman over Kupp in the final. He's gonna see a lot of targets.
I'm considering the same thing except it's OJ Howard over Hunter Henry... surely it's time to feed OJ...
Just me, but I'd easily stick with Henry here . . . you'll kick yourself if OJH follows suit with a typical 2019 stinker, while H Henry puts up a typical 15+ point game. Don't let last week's game sway you, start your studs.
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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby mild » Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:11 am

For those debating starting the TE's this week (like me)...

https://twitter.com/gregauman/status/12 ... 50432?s=19

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby Shankopotamus » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:38 am

Saw that the Bucs are going to bring Jameis back next season. Probably getting the Tag for a prove it season.
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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby Phaded » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:34 am

No surprise - they would be silly not to.

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Re: Is Jameis Winston a Starting QB

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:44 am

Phaded wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:34 am No surprise - they would be silly not to.
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