Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby hoos89 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:56 pm

CGW wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:19 pm Top 12 is tough. I'd have Godwin in your tier 2 at least. I'd also want Golladay pretty darn close to my top 12.
Have to assume he just forgot about Godwin if he's not even in the honorable mentions.
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Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby ebsteelers » Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:57 pm

MrUbuto wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:54 pm
ebsteelers wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:52 pm
MrUbuto wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:52 pm I'm a longtime Beckham owner and I'd take every guy on this list over him sadly. The injuries the headaches and situation. I'm done
I'm thinking I want to move him this off-season curious , what the going rate for him is
That's the thing though no one is giving a first.. Well at least I don't think so. And I wouldn't take a 2nd
yeah not sure if anyone is giving a first, maybe mid to late.

or maybe try a player you like with a high second rounder

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby hoos89 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:00 pm

Also...Jeudy and Lamb? These are 2020 rankings so rookies should be in the running.
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Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby CGW » Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:48 pm

I'd have the rookies loser than top 12.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Burrow
RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1.01, 1.02, 4.01, 5.01
2025
| 1stx3, 3rdx3

10 Team | SF | PPR | 2023 Champ
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Allen, Stroud, Young
RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby briank » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:15 pm

ebsteelers wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:57 pm
MrUbuto wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:54 pm
ebsteelers wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:52 pm

I'm thinking I want to move him this off-season curious , what the going rate for him is
That's the thing though no one is giving a first.. Well at least I don't think so. And I wouldn't take a 2nd
yeah not sure if anyone is giving a first, maybe mid to late.

or maybe try a player you like with a high second rounder
I'd give a late 1st for Beckham in a heartbeat.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby briank » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:25 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:28 am With the NFL season coming to an end, how would you rank the top 12 WRs? How would you rate your confidence they'll be in your top 12 after FA and the draft?

Me-

Tier 1- guys I have no doubt will be top 12 ranked next year
Michael Thomas
DeAndre Hopkins
Tyreek Hill
Mike Evans
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Tier 2- each of these barely missed getting into tier 1
Julio- age issue overcome by certainty he'll produce; others in this tier don't have that certainty
Beckham
D Adams
A Cooper
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Tier 3
Kupp
DJ Moore
Juju
Keenan Allen

Also-rans- ARob, Thielen, Golladay, AJ Brown, Sutton, Ridley, Hilton, Kirk, Lockett, AJ Green

I focused this list on top 12, but I could see tier 3 including all the also rans, or nearly all. I could see all those tier 2 WRs falling behind the young guns in that expanded tier 3 group.
My initial thoughts are that you have Julio and Kupp at least a tier too high. Julio didn't go that high in either startup I did last year and he's another year older with more nagging injuries seemingly dragging down his production. Kupp hasn't even been on the field enough lately to warrant more than an honorable mention. He's slowed way down and wont be anywhere near my top 12.

I'd add Diggs, Godwin, and Chark to this discussion.

Thielen, Hilton, and Green aren't in this discussion for me. I think I'd rather DK Metcalf than all of these old veterans too.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby nathanq42 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:28 pm

briank wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:15 pm
ebsteelers wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:57 pm
MrUbuto wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:54 pm

That's the thing though no one is giving a first.. Well at least I don't think so. And I wouldn't take a 2nd
yeah not sure if anyone is giving a first, maybe mid to late.

or maybe try a player you like with a high second rounder
I'd give a late 1st for Beckham in a heartbeat.
If I didnt own him and could get him for a 1st, he would be on my team, and itd take a fair bit more than 1st to get him from me now
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby Packerland » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:35 pm

I recently turned down Courtland Sutton for OBJ the other day, not really sure why I did at this point but I keep hoping he turns it around and hopefully is healthy next year, crazy right?
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League

QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert

Picks:
2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby jman3134 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:36 pm

Chark the shark
12 team, 35 man rosters, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Geno Smith, Matthew Stafford, Trey Lance
Rb: Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Cam Akers, Isiah Pacheco, Jeff Wilson, Chase Edmonds, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Jaleel McLaughlin
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diontae Johnson, Darnell Mooney, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Jakobi Meyers, Laviska Shenault, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Denzel Mims, Richie James, Michael Wilson, Demario Douglas, Trent Sherfield
Te: George Kittle, Darren Waller, Taysom Hill, Isaiah Likely
K:
D: Dallas D

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby Pullo Vision » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:12 pm

I definitely missed on getting Godwin, Diggs and Chark at least on the also ran list.

That said, I wasn't trying to do rankings I'd do, but forecasting what a consensus top 12 would look like. Some people heavily/over value production, others heavily/over weigh youth. I think the 2nd tier of Julio/Beckham/Adams/Cooper is a landmine. Like a moth to the flame, people will draft those guys for their history of production and name recognition, when they miss out on the top 4. I see that ending badly.

Thomas
Hopkins
Tyreek
Evans
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Cooper
Golladay
Adams
Diggs
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Keenan
Juju
Beckham
Julio

Also- Kupp, DJ Moore, Godwin, ARob, Thielen, AJ Brown, Sutton, Ridley, Hilton, Kirk, Lockett
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def

League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby IR1 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:58 pm

briank wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:15 pm
ebsteelers wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:57 pm
MrUbuto wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:54 pm

That's the thing though no one is giving a first.. Well at least I don't think so. And I wouldn't take a 2nd
yeah not sure if anyone is giving a first, maybe mid to late.

or maybe try a player you like with a high second rounder
I'd give a late 1st for Beckham in a heartbeat.
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10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby Chwf3rd » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:09 am

Are people seriously talking about trading OBJ for a mid-late 1st? He’s had 1 bad season in his career you maniacs
Team 1 - 12 team PPR
QB: MRyan, MJones, CNewton, RFitz
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, JMixon, AJDillon, LMurray, DarWilliams, GBernard
WR: SDiggs, ACooper, BAiyuk, JJones, LShenault, BCooks, KToney, KHamler, VJefferson
TE: JSmith, ISmith, ZErtz

Team 2 - 16 team, PPR, SF
QB: JBurrow, CWentz, ZWilson, Jimmy G
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, BSnell, TGurley, DGuice
WR: JChase, BAiyuk, CSutton, THiggins, JJeudy, JReagor, BEdwards
TE: ISmith, HarBryant, DSample, TTremble

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:26 am

Chwf3rd wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:09 am Are people seriously talking about trading OBJ for a mid-late 1st? He’s had 1 bad season in his career you maniacs
He's had three consecutive bad seasons by his standards. I can see how people are down on him. I'm certainly not actively targeting him unless he's at a discount.
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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:01 pm

Mine:

1. Michael Thomas
2. DeAndre Hopkins
3. DaVante Adams
4. Mike Evans
5. Julio Jones
6. Amari Cooper
7. Keenan Allen
8. Odell Beckham
9. Chris Godwin
10. DJ Moore
11. Stefon Diggs
12. Kenny Golladay

*Note: I do not value Tyreek Hill at all, so he's excluded from my list.

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Re: Early 2020 rankings- top 12 WRs

Postby JohnnyBoyRoss » Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:47 pm

Yeah if I can get Odell for any sort of first I’m doing it. I only own him in 1 of my leagues and will be actively targeting him this offseason. Baker has sucked plain and simple, if he’s traded target quality should only increase, and if he’s not traded baker should take a step forward next year IMO. So either way i’m Buying him if I can get him valued cheaper.
Team 1
.5 PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 Flex League 12 teams
QB: Russ, Foles, Taylor
RB: Henry, Sanders, Fournette, Mostert, Dillon, McCoy, R. Freeman
WR: OBJ, Arob, Deebo, Mike Will, Watkins, Ross, Pettis
TE:Olsen, Dissly, Ian Thomas

Team 2
.5 PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 Flex League 12 teams
Qb: Roethlisberger, Tannehill, Foles, Tyrod, Trubisky, Herbert, Winston
Rb: Chubb, Drake, Dobbins, Bell, Dillon, Penny, R. Freeman
Wr: Thomas, Evans, Chark, AJ Green, Ruggs, Ross
Te: Rudolph, Thomas, Oliver

Team 3
1 PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Superflex 1 Flex 12 teams
Qb: Rogers, Mayfield, Brady
Rb: MGIII, David Johnson, Hunt, Coleman, Mostert, McKinnon, Howard, Mattison, L. Murray
Wr: Adams, Evans, Robinson, Cooks, AJG, Ruggs, J. Brown, Edelman, Van Jefferson
Te: Goedert, Ebron, Thomas, Keene


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