David Johnson - Code Red Panic? - Traded to Houston

[fakespike13]

I watch 8 games at once on my big screen so have seen most offensive plays by both teams (though admittedly haven’t gone back through tons of highlights) and have to agree that Bell looks much better to the eye than DJ. Bell still looks like old Bell stuck on a shitty team. DJ looks slower and doesn’t strike fear like of old and gets clearly outshined by Edmonds and then Drake on like consecutive plays so the visual really land. They are never going back to him being their workhorse. You can spin a yarn about him landing in the ideal FA landing spot after being cut, but there will be a huge glut of young RBs on the draft and FA markets the next couple years, and I doubt that works out for you. Iad sell the bleep out of DJ (though it might be too late) and buy Bell if he was coming at a nice discount, but not otherwise; I want first contract RBs mostly.

[FantasyFreak]

I honestly think DJ would be better suited as a move TE/big slot in this offense. He's not the right fit as a runner, nor does he look good as a runner, and hasn't in a long time. He has good receiving ability, and they are stuck with him. I expect them to re sign Drake as their primary back, so maybe Kliff can figure out a way to implement DJ in the receiving game and as a blocker.

[nathanq42]

Maybe DJ can do what Fitz did for Arians?

[Dynasty DeLorean]

I honestly think DJ would be better suited as a move TE/big slot in this offense. He's not the right fit as a runner, nor does he look good as a runner, and hasn't in a long time. He has good receiving ability, and they are stuck with him. I expect them to re sign Drake as their primary back, so maybe Kliff can figure out a way to implement DJ in the receiving game and as a blocker.

He looked perfectly fine earlier in the year. He suffered through a year of Rosen who I said was awful at the time and now finally has been proven to be awful. the rocky start of both his head coachs “next level” scheme and another rookie QBs shaky start to their career and it’s ALL DJs fault now, I find that completely ridiculous. You must think Le’Veon Bell should be moved to TE as well then? Melvin Gordon too perhaps? The last game I saw Drake was running with daylight ahead of him and I kid you not he turned around and went backwards and lost yards. Drake has been a turd in the receiving department while DJ was averaging over 60 YPG. Nobody will ever convince me he’s a better option than a healthy DJ at any time for any situation.

[FantasyFreak]

I honestly think DJ would be better suited as a move TE/big slot in this offense. He's not the right fit as a runner, nor does he look good as a runner, and hasn't in a long time. He has good receiving ability, and they are stuck with him. I expect them to re sign Drake as their primary back, so maybe Kliff can figure out a way to implement DJ in the receiving game and as a blocker.

He looked perfectly fine earlier in the year. He suffered through a year of Rosen who I said was awful at the time and now finally has been proven to be awful. the rocky start of both his head coachs “next level” scheme and another rookie QBs shaky start to their career and it’s ALL DJs fault now, I find that completely ridiculous. You must think Le’Veon Bell should be moved to TE as well then? Melvin Gordon too perhaps? The last game I saw Drake was running with daylight ahead of him and I kid you not he turned around and went backwards and lost yards. Drake has been a turd in the receiving department while DJ was averaging over 60 YPG. Nobody will ever convince me he’s a better option than a healthy DJ at any time for any situation.

I don't think he looked good as a runner earlier in the year. The reality is DJ is stuck in Arizona, and Drake is the better player for that system. If they re sign Drake, why waste DJ's receiving skills and contract? There are ways he can get involved, without running the ball. He can even get some carries, but he's far more valuable as a receiver at this point in his career. He's not a good runner of the ball, and hasn't been for years IMO. Drake looks better to me, comparing what DJ looked like earlier in the year, compared to Drake, as a runner. Sat down and watched 3 games of Drake last night, and I don't think DJ has anything on him at this point. Not sure how you can say Drake is "a turd in the receiving department". I just watched 3 full games, and he made plays, and also caught a few outlet passes, with no chance of gaining yardage after the catch. Drake is a skilled receiver. He even made a toe tap catch on the sidelines that some WR's would have a tough time making. I have both players on my team, and I think Drake is the better player at this point for this offense, even when both are healthy.

As for Bell, I think he looks a lot better than DJ as a runner. I mention DJ as a guy who can play slot/move TE, because they use him as a blocker some already, and also line him up as a WR on plays. It's a way to maximize his best skill at this point, rather than simply have him sitting on the bench. He hasn't run the football well since 2016. We can look at a bunch of reasons beyond him as to why that is or might be, but he just hasn't, regardless.

[alewilliam789]

So will he get more plays next week after scoring a TD and showing good efficiency on a small sample size?
Are they saving David Johnson for next year when they know they’ll be more competitive and likely have a stronger O-line?

This would allow them to get the compensation pick when Drake leaves.

I mean it would make sense.

Or they just really like Drake.

Such an odd situation

[FantasyFreak]

So will he get more plays next week after scoring a TD and showing good efficiency on a small sample size?
Are they saving David Johnson for next year when they know they’ll be more competitive and likely have a stronger O-line?

This would allow them to get the compensation pick when Drake leaves.

I mean it would make sense.

Or they just really like Drake.

Such an odd situation

I could see them re signing Drake. They have 78 million in cap room. I don't really care, I have both on my team, but I think they like Drake. I would actually prefer Drake to sign somewhere else on a somewhat significant deal, so I could potentially have DJ as a starter again as well as Drake, but I just think he fits their system, and I would not be surprised if he got a 2 or 3 year deal in AZ.

[trader_nation]

Regardless of whether he can run or not, DJ quit even trying to run the ball, he gave up on plays like no player I have ever seen on any level of football. Who is better out of DJ and drake? No coach can ever pick the guy who chooses when he's going to try and make the line of scrimmage.

[Mjvb5]

he had 5 touches, I definitely wouldn't change his valuation at all from last week

[killer_of_giants]

Regardless of whether he can run or not, DJ quit even trying to run the ball, he gave up on plays like no player I have ever seen on any level of football. Who is better out of DJ and drake? No coach can ever pick the guy who chooses when he's going to try and make the line of scrimmage.

links?

[FantasyFreak]

he had 5 touches, I definitely wouldn't change his valuation at all from last week

Really think they should use him as a receiver more, if they don't want him running the ball. He scored a 20 something yard TD split out as a receiver this week. There are ways of using him without having him in the backfield, where they can have he and Drake on the field together. I hope they do this more.

[trader_nation]

Regardless of whether he can run or not, DJ quit even trying to run the ball, he gave up on plays like no player I have ever seen on any level of football. Who is better out of DJ and drake? No coach can ever pick the guy who chooses when he's going to try and make the line of scrimmage.

links?

https://mobile.twitter.com/kyleynfl/sta ... 4120339456

[nathanq42]

Regardless of whether he can run or not, DJ quit even trying to run the ball, he gave up on plays like no player I have ever seen on any level of football. Who is better out of DJ and drake? No coach can ever pick the guy who chooses when he's going to try and make the line of scrimmage.

links?

https://mobile.twitter.com/kyleynfl/sta ... 4120339456

I don't get it... There was nowhere to go and he got blasted by two guys at the same time and both had running starts

[killer_of_giants]

Regardless of whether he can run or not, DJ quit even trying to run the ball, he gave up on plays like no player I have ever seen on any level of football. Who is better out of DJ and drake? No coach can ever pick the guy who chooses when he's going to try and make the line of scrimmage.

links?

https://mobile.twitter.com/kyleynfl/sta ... 4120339456

so, 1 (one) run, after missing the previous two games for injury, in a game where he was mainly held out likely because he hadn't fully recovered (he barely played in the following game as well).

hard evidence!
i'm not impressed.

[trader_nation]

He got dropped after that game. You guys wanted to know why he no longer stats, I showed you. NFL Rbs aren't allowed to jog. If you believe he doesn't start because cliff likes having chats with him on the sideline, or because they start their rbs based on star signs you are welcome to believe that. After that Bucs games even DJ had to address his poor performance in the media, don't ask me watch the game. When a former pro bowler gets benched try watching their last game rather than jumping up and down saying 'where is the evidence! Where is the evidence!'