OBJ or DJ Moore

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OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby CurtisMyFavMartin » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:17 pm

12 team full PPR. I’m nervous about OBJ moving forward and Moore is 4 years younger. I know the rankings have Beckham as late 1st round startup and Moore as a late 2nd, but I could see that flip flopping next year. Thoughts?
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby makemeasandwich » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:30 pm

Hard for me to put Moore in his tier, OBJ is just a cut above in my opinion.

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:26 pm

Still have Beckham ahead. Beckham could easily rebound next year.
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby Dibbles » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:00 pm

Give me Moore pretty easily here - 4 years of youth, much safer from on/off field hoopla, and pretty amazing what he’s doing thus far at very young age.

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby Samhain34 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:28 pm

This has been a lost year in CLE; I like Beckham. I think he's back to his normal self next season.
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:38 pm

Obj, but another year of DJ Moore balling out and OBJ a borderline WR2, this could flip
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby perkinsrooster » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:48 am

I'd understand it if you moved OBJ for Moore. It's not terrible but it would be a bit of a panic sell.

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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby abloom » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:00 am

If we're talking straight up, give me OBJ very easily. I think he will rebound, and we have no idea of the QB situation in Carolina next year.
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby hoos89 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:30 am

perkinsrooster wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:48 am
I'd understand it if you moved OBJ for Moore. It's not terrible but it would be a bit of a panic sell.
Honestly I'm not sure about that. Moore's over 1,000 yards with 3 games to go and he's still 22...I think he should be considered a top 8 dynasty WR at this point and there are fair arguments to be made for him over OBJ (youth, lack of drama, current productivity in spite of what appears to be a minus situation).
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If we're talking straight up, give me OBJ very easily. I think he will rebound, and we have no idea of the QB situation in Carolina next year.
Are we sure QB situation even matters? He's a WR1 with Kyle Allen under center.
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:07 am

Personally I'd go with Beckham now that we know his down season is partially due to a lingering groin injury all year. That said, it's not crazy if you prefer Moore.
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:24 am

DJ Moore easy for me.... I could see OBJ retiring in a couple years.. I think he’s talented but I’m tired of hearing that it’s everyone and everything else’s fault. DJM could get a 1000+ yard season with Kyle Allen.. 4 years younger and getting better...

Id rather take the chance with the young growing talent instead of the hoping it comes back talent...
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby hoos89 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:47 am

OhSnapItsAnt wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:24 am
DJM could get a 1000+ yard season with Kyle Allen.. 4 years younger and getting better...
COULD? He's already at 1,061. 4th in the league in receiving yards.
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby abloom » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:52 am

hoos89 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:30 am
perkinsrooster wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:48 am
I'd understand it if you moved OBJ for Moore. It's not terrible but it would be a bit of a panic sell.
Honestly I'm not sure about that. Moore's over 1,000 yards with 3 games to go and he's still 22...I think he should be considered a top 8 dynasty WR at this point and there are fair arguments to be made for him over OBJ (youth, lack of drama, current productivity in spite of what appears to be a minus situation).
abloom wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:00 am
If we're talking straight up, give me OBJ very easily. I think he will rebound, and we have no idea of the QB situation in Carolina next year.
Are we sure QB situation even matters? He's a WR1 with Kyle Allen under center.
I should have expanded that answer, with QB and HC unsure, yes it matters. I think DJM is talented, I just think OBJ is more talented. Straight up give me the more talented option.
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby hoos89 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:01 pm

Why does it matter though? Moore is succeeding with a below average QB in an offense that is on track to give 400+ touches to CMC. I doubt his QB/coach situation is going to get materially worse than that.

Also I think other factors besides talent need to be taken into consideration. Moore is 4.5 years younger than OBJ and doesn't seem to be a drama queen. Also OBJ hasn't really had an elite season since 2016.
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Re: OBJ or DJ Moore

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:39 pm

DJ Moore. He's 5 years younger, and outproducing OBJ. OBJ hasn't been that guy in years. Don't give away 5 years of youth for a name. Even if OBJ bounces back, and he outscores Moore, which I doubt, how many games will it make a difference in? If Moore continues to play like this, OBJ would be hard pressed to put up 2 to 3 more PPG, and it's just not going to affect enough matchups to make the gap in age worth it, IMO.
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